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Investigating a sensation currently present and relaxing into what knows that sensation is not a conceptual exercise. Investigating a thought currently present and relaxing into what knows that thought is also not a conceptual exercise. What is important here is not the object of experience, which would be conceptual exercise, but always being more interested in the subject of that appearant object, be it conceptual object (thought) or a perception/sensation. There is one common isness/nowness that knows all these different objects which itself can't be seen as an object, which makes it so appearantly elusive. Cant be seen as an object, but it can be beinged - only now. Thats it, if I weren't it, I wouldn't be able to know it. I can only know it because I am it.

"Simply being here and now" is not enough yes, you have to also be interested about it and to know that you are here and now. Literally everyone is here and now, but who is knowingly here and now? Not many. I feel like some here have strong spiritual egos that are hard to get through. I like the beginners mindset always, beginning from what we have here and now, not from content of the mind or something learnt, because that would stain our investigation, it won't be as pure as it can be.

Leave some enlightenment for the rest of us, dude

I don't know about those, im simply examining the current experience. I don't know of that which knows everything, only that which knows my experience, narrowing down myself, i dont bother myself with thinking about concepts like everything, just my own experience is the only thing I have full access to and can investigate.

Ayy that arogant ego speaking . Seems like you got the truth on intellectual level. You are probably a young one with that flashy statement. Ofcourse the now is 0 years old, but it is not only you lmao, it's everyone like you're special, just like everybody else

How old are you, Ivane. This nonduality thing is not about winning arguments nor about typing flashy comments, its about having practical direct experience of nonduality. Maybe re-read original post and see if you can follow the pointings. The egoic reactional thoughts are also seen by the I now. They aren't I.

In my post I talk about direct experiential awareness of Being now, nothing woowoo, no concepts, but pointing to the subject which cant be experienced as an object. in your comment you talk about some concepts.

Discussing consciousness here in direct practical way. If you want just tell me why I'm wrong or contribute in some way to the thread rather than this childish jelly thing, that would he great

Well im not going to be following any of the Frank Yang spirituality where he has poetry about getting down on girls and presents the genitals as light 🤔. If you are young enjoy yourself, but at some point perhaps after an accident or just by getting older you understand you need to look for something more absolute for your peace than body and mind which are transient. The body and mind are sensations and thoughts/ feelings appearing now and not essential to what I am because they constantly change, but the nowness is essential to what I am. Nothing else changes, just my identity.

I agree you cant hold it as an idea, but who is that holding it as idea, if not another idea. Im talking about the actual nowness that cannot be put in words. Since it is me that is aware now, that means I am that aware nowness, so I can hold on to That as my identity. Yes, not with words, but as the experience itself of knowing being

But im saying The empty nowness is actually real and self evident now.. and my empty nowness is the same darn thing as yoour empty nowness. Its the common root. My nowness is not different to your nowness. I can actuallly hold on to the nowness as a sense of self, because its always present and its me

The real answers get burried under all the arguing and banter

Happiness is when you are satisfied. You seek nothing further to improve your current state, because you are completely satisfied aka happy and at peace. You might want to watch some Rupert Spira, lately he's been the one I resonare the most with, and I've listened to most you can find online that deal with nonduality.

Stoop arguing anything you say is poetry, dont take yourselves too seriously, unless you're having a moment

I will go ahead and answer even tho its not towards me. Afraid of dying, that human guy ceasing to exist, that guy who is in relationship with reality. Nondual would be a state where you know you are not only in relationship with reaality but also are reality as much as anything else. As much as the tree and the river and the clouds, the birds and the bees 🐝 it's a very vulnerable place to be, because you accept your aliveness and fragility like the bugs and the plants, and now can come the terror - how come you're alive? What if its time to die? Gonna piss your pants - you wont be able to write on actualized once you die for one small example. You havent experienced it if you are here. Non of us is an expert in death. Even if you had ego deaths, thats different. Im talking about nonduality for the born being and the terror of that born being for its own death. Im not talking about the Unborn Tao, that is irrelevant,, no terror for it, the unborn can't die, easymode there!

He better be alone. Also, never trust a James, he's here to stir. The King cuts reality to His liking ✂️ 💇‍♀️ ✂️ 💇‍♂️ Any aliens invading his throne room shall be ✂️ ✂️ to His liking. 📱 🖥 🖥 👩‍💻 🖲 Time will stop before they can grab Him. He is divinely annointed. He is protected by the highest high, the lowest low. Nondual dual anointing Amen 🙏

I've had a lot of experiences which felt biblical, like my relationship to the Whole as a human being, as me, my real name and all, my life, what I was destined to do and how I kinda failed at it, but also did a lot better than certain others, not to brag much.. but still, the task was way too big and I got big headed earlly on in life which slowed down my progress and there now I am kind of a degenerate. It felt like everyone had put their faith in my incarnation and i did a poopoo job out of it, did great up to a point, but then my free will to be bad took over and i didnt know the stakes, because i was raised an atheist, which was also part of the deaal. If i knew the stakes it wouldnt be real... anyway, i dont expect anyone to understand, because you dont know my life or the people ive known and events of my life etc... its all been.. a great story I guess, up to a point where I started spiralling down because of a girl, and never recovered. Im just chatting ofcourse, yet another mind guerilla, a mental masturbation alert! Whatever! My life felt very meaningful tho. Thats something.

We are entering the infinite judgmenet spiral, be careful young padawan🧐 Take it easy and leave some for the rest Joking aside, what happens if your ability to have such pleasures gets taken from you? What then? You will start to look into spirituality then?

As someone who's never done psychedellics but have had sober nondual experiences i know what terrror you are talking about. Writing from hospital bed after latest one. Anyway, one time I talked to a guy on the street... early in the morning, a black guy... he looked like a thug, carrying something... i walked past him, he followed me, i said stop following me thank you - he said he wouldnt hurt me, just self defense. Then i went up to him later, this crazy guy and I asked him "Bro, are you me?" And he suddenly snapped out of his crazy persona and became extremely intelligent and asked me what I could teach him. But before he did that he said "its just about being" and "i am addicted to learning". Crazy experiences one can have. I find that street spirituality can be proper real. We like to meditate and close ourselves from the world, when perhaps the world can be the meditation! The body doesnt have to go if its an illusion, so who disappears? Who is alone? Who am I? I know, I'm a slow learner.

You mean the love of money and hedonism? Is that your God? Oh dear! With that username, i feel dirty even replying 😔 🤧 Anyway, good luck on your journey, you sound like you are young.

The very nature of decisions and even talking about delusions, we need to give reality to time and ego first... how do we talk about delusion in the timeless? You can see how we cant help but play i in the story of time, yet we keep on ignoring it in spiritual circles, and we focus on the eternal now, so if you kicked a cat or killed a bat in the past, you can forget about that or any punishment you might be due based on your past actions.... It feels great, but also feels a bit dishonest, like cheating, ignoring, running away from consequences, living in a self created dream. We might want our good deeds to be remembered... maybe you did a lot of good and a lot of bad in your life. Is there an entity that knows all you've done? And to fairly assess your life? Prrhaps!

It was very much the cross between time and timeless. There undeniably is a story happening, unfolding, or we can't really say its the year 2025. Thats one real story and humanity is pretty real, no? And 2025 after Christ, marking Christ Jesus as real and vital as well to our story. To consensus reality... in a way, i have been ignoring the time dimension for so long, being centered in the Now, and time had its counter argument - me as a human, what am I without time? Why should I even be alive as a human, if I don't respect time? I had to give something back, perhaps show im prepared to take my fair share of pain as well, to grow up from my fantasy that I was crafting in the timeless, which mightve affected other beings negatively! I do believe the cross signifies this, marriage between the time dimension and the timeless. Ignoring the time dimension seems to be playing a game of ignoring, and only time dimension is also a game of ignoring. When we add the two together, we get the cross ✝️ both dimensions at once, and crazy things begin to unfold when we try to balance between both ultimately contradictory points of view, but nonduality should be able to include both! I can't deny its the year 2025. And my own humanity. My life felt like it has purpose and meaning, not just this moment, but the events themselves. And i believe its a way for my soul to purify and glow up in a way. I dont see it as ego, but as grounding, perhaps, I grounded myself pretty literally. I fell from my metaphorical high ground. Like an ant that wanted to be a loner, but then gets injured and realises its pretty good that there is an entire colony that cares about it, and that the colony is much greater than any one piece inside it.

I wasnt on drugs, you could say I was cleansing from drugs. But reality just shaped different than usual, it was like everything stopped and it was just me under a microscope, my past, beyond even my human life, it felt biblical you might say. Like my life had immense purpose and meaning, one for all and all for one. It was like many souls relied on me and what I do. I received multiple signs and synchronicities thst i have to jump. Some more obvious than others, shooting star you can say is just me, but I also received a reddit message from someone who asked if he should jump and asked me of im trully conscious, as if thats the only option once you become trully conscious. I referred him to Samatarians, but I did not take my own advice. I cant really explain everything that lead to the moment of the jump, but it felt like i needed to make a sacrifice - One for all and all for one type of deal. I felt like I was betraying everyone that put their faith in me. I really cant explain. It felt like a calling, like it had to happen. I do not regret, im only surprised I survived. And I've been reliant on Others and reality to get me back to health. Currently still in hospital, and my tripping kept happening in the hospital, different challenges, quiet spiritual, . It was connected to AI, to the web, to Christianity/Jesus, to spiders, to cats, to God, Natural Intelligence, to timelines, to the Real Timeline, dreams, fear, fear of dreams creating reality, movies, spiderman, darth vader, Me, etc... I really cant explain coherently. For sure tho during my experiences I created reality, in a deeply meaningful way for me, i knew that was my creation, yet I dont know how and why and what it means, or how to do it again, or if I want to do it again. I would rather be just a vessel, as I was warned earlier by the crowd at the train station "You cant win. You're just a vessel" was shouted at the busy trainstation. Well, i can win, if I want to be just a vessel! Vesel means Happy in my home language 😊 funny coincidence Ps: I was there before SoonHei jumped, and I had private conversations with him. My case I didnt jump because I viewed reality as a dream, it was rather the opposite, however it was all connected with solipsism.

I reply to all not just yourself. You bullish? Me too. Enuff said. No need for all the other fluff.

i got this video suggested to me while I was recovering in hospital after a Neo type of experience which I aalready mentioned a bit in previous posts. I mentioned only the tip of the iceberg, just like I cant explain to others the movie the matrix i cant explain to them what happened in my life, which was nothing short of crazy and miraculous, even tho I didnt have superpowers. Crazy, isnt it