Dodo

This is a reply to my locked ? thread from years ago named "Who is Leo?" in which I asked "Is he your guru?" :-D

The thing is, after no thought, there is still someone experiencing life. It's just that this person has a quiet mind. I don't get why it's so popular to state that Enlightenment means no self, if it actually means no thought. My self is not a thought in the first place, it is awareness. If there is no self, that for me means there is no awareness. And awareness is fundamental.

Yes, makes more sense for the natural state to be neutral.

When I am happy, happiness is happening to me, awareness. When I am sad, sadness is happening to me, awareness. That's my experience. My experience is also happening to me, awareness.

When I am happy, I am happy. Also 1+1 can't be 3.

Yes, awareness is the self beyond ego.

We already established, if you are correct then enlightenment does not bring happiness, because there will be no me to experience it. So basically you are sending me for a wild goose chase in order to satisfy your ego?

Who are you sending to find out?

Who knows this? How does a "who" know this, if it's only the experience of a "no-who"?

Then you are lying that happiness is my default state

You are hinting that there is a self beyond ego.

If object is made out of consciousness, object is conscious

Irrelevant. Eckhart Tolle has stated that we live in a conscious universe. That everything is conscious. Has nothing to do with you becoming a plant. Don't go on such long tangents based on assumptions, it's hard to understand.

I don't think thats the opposite of what Leo is saying. It's definitely not the opposite of what Eckhart Tolle is saying though.

You are awareness, now move on. To experience and trully know you are awareness, you must simply be aware.

@Ibn Sina Before Brahma was, I am Funny, if you move the letters around in Brahma and add an a you get Abraham.

If that Brahma character has qualities, then he is not able to be ever present. Awareness is ever present and awareness creates reality - it doesn't matter if it's intentional or not. That's the true God.

You have an allergy towards words? Perhaps use the Bulgarian version: Бог

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Created by us means created by God. You are separating yourself from reality

The thing is, even if Brahma is what you say it is, some sort of creator, it is Brahman that created Brahma, so actually Brahman is the creator.

Meaning of God is the ever present creator. That's awareness, awareness is God, I don't see a problem with the definition. Awareness is also nothing, so God indeed does not exist, God is the empty space in which all "else" exists.

If you don't see the connection, doesn't mean it's not there. The separation comment is pretty obviously related to what is being discussed: aka focusing on the inner world rather than the outer (inner outer separation) .

Being addicted to what is within is a safe addiction, because you will have access to it your whole life.

Leo has shared that in one of his deepest trips the best word he could use to describe what was happening was God. Perhaps there is something we don't know, don't just let your logical mind take over such things.