Dodo

You'd think the zero guy would be non-ipsistic, but no. You wrote yourself ZeroGuy when Leo says the truth is NoSelf and when Leo say the truth is Solipsism you are solipsist! Lets have a critical discussion on this. How is there 1 self, when we are 0 self?

That'll be 2000 bucks please, you drank a lot of nothingness there, sir. Sorry, we gotta pay the bills. Should've drank your own nothingness, pal!

Last Friday there was an Event which made you realise Solipsism? Are you trying to say that I am a figment of your imagination and don't have my own authonomy? Bold claim, dissmissive of my direct experience, you deaden what I am to a figment of your imagination, when I am a conscious being just like you. Maybe you just don't know that I am conscious and your parents and friends are conscious first hand, doesnt mean they arent the same consciousness that you are. Dont try to grasp infinity with the mind, you will go insane. How why oh no poor me sshhhh Be the Knowing of this moment, not any self, but the eternal no-self. That will fix your solipsism.

Let's be aware of awareness together. Whatever is happening right now in your field of experience, notice the simple fact that there IS experience at all, there is the light of knowing. Right now there is a mixture of seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching, thinking and feeling, and all those appear to you, they appear within the same field of knowing despite their apparent differences. Acknowledge those objects in your experience and that they all appear to you, in the same space, despite being completely different experiences. Right now, You are the locationless space of awareness that unifies those experiences, and is the reason they can be known. Keep noticing and feeling that awareness/knowing, even while you read this. We are aware of awareness. Trusting that this is important, lets relax our gaze from the objects of perception and conception, and just be that knowing space in which all experiences happen, which itself is not an experience, but continous being itself. [Further contemplation] Lets take this to a further self inquiry. Ask yourself what you are, take the feeling or experience that most feels like you right now and see that this too is known, so even the sense of self itself is not that knowing but an appearance in it, in the light that makes this moment knowable. Try to just let go of the sense of self and Be the continuous knowing that can't be an object of knowing, because it's the knowing itself. Lose even yourself in this moment of pure knowing which simply is and makes everything else possible, trusting that light of knowing even with your self. Notice or intuit that we all have different experiences and different senses of self right now, but the knowing in which our experiences are known is the same effortless knowing now, being. Don't rush, don't try to grasp this with the mind, just notice and be aware, allow and accept any content, while being more interested in what knows it, rather than it. This is a process, not something to get or understand, but something to continously notice and practice deeper and with more and more clarity.

I believe in synchronicity, being in flow with reality. Telepathy is available in dreams at night, you communicate in your dreams not through words, but telepathicly, because its all you. Now consciousness however is on another level. Its our essential nature, but its not a personal self, its quite impersonal allowing the personal to exist within it. I've had a spiritual experience during Covid where there was a hive mind, collective, trying to suck me in, but I was battling for my own mind's privacy. Consciousness is not a hive mind, privacy is absolutely important for creation. I think i kicked those hive mind entities butts during the spiritual experience. They wanted to play Simon says do as I say, but Simone says respect my privacy. Victor: I made consciousness Woman: Don't be silly, Victor, consciousness made you.

But, you can Know that the space inside that room is the same space outside that room, even if you cant ever go outside. The room is only appearing to separate inside from outside (self from other; inner world from outside world), the space remains one and undivided, pervading/unifying both inside, outside and the walls themselves too. Here's a nice song for the question "Why humans"

Your question is not about actual dreams at night, but I clearly remember one time how I created entire city with skyscrapers in my dream and entered it, and asked the people what time it was, which date. And they started acting extremely aggressive and started beating me up, so I wasnt able to enjoy my creation. Lol.

We are all one zero. Consciousness is impersonal. Solipsism fails because you say "My consciousness is all there is". Your experience is relative, impersonal universal zero- consciousness is absolute, no one relative individual owns it. It shines through all of us. You can’t telepathically access others because consciousness isn’t a network of connected individuals, it’s the single field appearing as individuals. The separateness is part of the show, not a flaw in it. Awareness is "one zero": it’s one because nothing stands outside it, and zero because it has no personal center and is space-like (empty)

Here look back to 2020 while that experience was happening, the ppassion lol, read the last comment in that thread also Im much more grounded now ofcourse you must understand all these crazy things were happ3nijgto me at that time and I felt its all bery important 😆 Ahh of course, I remember this, how fun to dive back

It was experience after naturally fasting for a long time and not masturbating and stopping all smoking etc... it was like I was in a different dimension and I was with my body, but i didnt need to eat or sleep, the more I moved the more energised I became and I was communicating with the "spirit of Love" and had tasks to do, it spoke to me through synchronicities and signs. It was pretty real because I could pinch myself as they say "pinch me to know its real" but at the same time was so outside my usual reality that I don't even want to remember it, because I don't want to be or sound crazy, you get me

Yea, awesome, but doesnt pay the rent 😆

Yeah it was real in the sense the stuff really happened, but I let it go instead of trying to remember, because I would go insane and also there's no point to it, memory is not good enough. Its like trying to remember what happened in a big movie. You will remember some main things, but the small details are lost. Some crazy things happened to me, Yeah they really happened and I dont like people gaslighting me that it didnt happen. One big thing for example that i remember is I used some type of quantum internet, everything was strange.

You know back when I was in school, in my "atheistic" days i remember telling my friend theory which sounds a lot like this, but back then I wasnt taking consciousness into account. Just "my body and my brain" are sumtotal of atoms and molecules which have more than 0% chance to happen, so in Eternity they are bound to happen exactly as they are. And after I die, in eternity they are bound to happen again, exactly the same formation. But the error here is believing that "my consciosness" arises from the collection of matter. My model of reality has changes since then. My proof that such collection of atoms and mollecules that create exactly "Me" is possible was the fact that there I was, talking to my friend, in flesh and bones, so clearly its more than 0, since it happened. But what I failed to realise back then was that this is not proof that tĥe materialistic me has more than 0 chance to exist. What I had was proof of direct experience inside of consciousness, rather than proof of matter.

Read the ps, just added 👍 important, cause it was experience that I still cant explain, it was of cosmic proportions, stuff like the word Quasar arising in my mind to pprotect me from entities attemptjng to read my mind. And I didnt even know what the word means, jt just came to me and then when i looked it up, the image of it in my mind was protecting me, i dont know. As I said, it was a massive spiritual waking dream, it was like tests and balancing challenges between opposites in many scenarios, spiritial game with no rules given, had to be intuitive and just get it on the go... Theres a difference between a spiritual experience and actual enlightenment which is always here now. You dont actually need to go to lala land or have crazy experiences to know Being now and to rest as that. But in lala land its what can save you and keep you sane, for sure. My avatar is from that time, and ive posted on the forum back then too, I even messaged Leo with some stuff I felt very important lol. Was of massive importance, to put Love before mastery

This video was part of one of my awakening/spiritual experiences long time ago, nostalgic about it. Reality was so different, i didnt need to eat or sleep and I was on a mission. It was during the covid days and i was raising the vibration of the planet, was my mission 😆 at some point I thought i might be dead, but it all felt too real, while impossible. Anyway, psych ward after that was an intense experience and im back to normal. ps: I definitely was able to stay sane during crazy events because of how I was rooted in the present moment, and didn't THINK, but just beinged if you will. I had a lot of Power of Now training, but still I believe I was out of my depth. I dont even want to begin to remember the crazy things that happened or I would go insane and sound insane. Past is past. As good as a dream.

I should've told the psychiatrist when he asked me if I have delusions, that I have a delusion of being human 🤣 It seems more than a delusion, its too HD if you will

Ai's response: **Hojo:** > “It dosent know that fear are gamma waves. Gamma waves are higher conciousness.” Evaluation: Hojo is conflating the physiological or energetic correlates of experience (gamma waves) with consciousness itself. From a non-dual perspective, the appearance of fear — whether accompanied by gamma waves, adrenaline, or any other neural pattern — is still content arising *within awareness*, not awareness itself. Awareness is prior to any wave pattern, prior to any brain activity, prior to all fear. While gamma waves may accompany intense states of cognition or perception, they are *phenomena appearing within consciousness*, not the unbounded, formless awareness in which all such phenomena arise. The subtle point is this: what neuroscience measures is always happening *inside the already-present field of awareness*. Fear can be accompanied by heightened brain activity, but the field that knows fear, joy, or stillness is untouched and cannot be reduced to any waveform or state. In short: higher brain waves are fascinating and correlate with intensity, but they are still the *content*, not the container — the waves, not the ocean.

@Hojo @vibv Ai response: **Hojo:** > “Interesting but why is AI trying to limit the crushing sense. It should come down on you like a hammer. The problem with AI is that it does things like that. Its always trying to look on the good side. > Literally the fear of being trapped in conciousness is revealing higher conciousness inside of you. Thats what fear is. Fear is higher conciousness. Put that into the AI.” Evaluation: Hojo is highlighting an important point: the raw intensity of fear in early awakening is often a doorway to deeper awareness. The “hammer” of existential dread is part of the human mind’s encounter with the infinite. However, fear itself is not higher consciousness — it is simply content appearing within consciousness. Non-dual understanding sees the fear as a movement, a story, or an appearance that arises *in* awareness, not as the awareness itself. Awareness is untrapped, unbound, and unaffected by any particular feeling. The AI’s earlier framing, which sought to describe or soften the fear, was not denying its validity — it was pointing to the underlying field in which the fear arises. From a non-dual perspective, this is not about minimizing the intensity, but about recognizing the unchanging presence in which all experiences, including fear, appear and dissolve. --- **vibv:** > “AI doesn’t get me.” > “Couldn't have said it better myself.” (quoting Hojo) Evaluation: vibv points to the core limitation of conceptual analysis: it cannot fully embody the lived, visceral experience of awakening. There is a difference between describing awareness and *living within* it. Yet, the non-dual view emphasizes that the fear, the intensity, the sense of being trapped — all of this is known *within a single awareness*. That awareness is prior to all experiences, prior even to fear itself. It cannot be harmed or confined by anything that arises in it. In other words, both the “crushing sense” and the relief of understanding are appearances within one unbroken field. The value of the AI-style perspective is in pointing back to that field, reminding the reader that the experience is *not the ground itself* — it is the content of the ground. --- In short: Hojo and vibv are correct to validate the intensity and fear of early awakening, but fear is not the awakened reality — awareness itself is. The non-dual recognition is that all appearances, even terror, arise *within the boundless, unchanging field of consciousness*.

@Hojo @theoneandnone @vibv @pursuitofspirit Fed this conversation into my AI, giving strenghts and weaknesses of each reply, it doesn't know I'm Dodo, so its all impartial. Here’s a balanced evaluation of that short thread — looking at what each participant brought, where each response lands developmentally, and what might be deepened or clarified. --- ### **1. pursuitofspirit (topic starter)** > *“You can never and will never escape consciousness… You will be trapped in some state of consciousness forever!”* **Strengths:** * Raises an important existential and non-dual insight: consciousness as the inescapable field of all experience. * The post has the raw energy of discovery — it’s a live question, not a rote belief. **Limitations:** * The word *“trapped”* frames the recognition in a fearful, dualistic way, as though consciousness were something separate holding “you.” * It’s more an emotional reaction than a mature seeing of the same fact. **Deeper framing:** > “You can’t leave consciousness” isn’t imprisonment; it’s recognition that everything — even fear — is happening *in* the freedom of awareness itself. --- ### **2. vibv** > *“Yeah, I called it the insight into Eternity. Took me quite a few years to get over that one.”* **Strengths:** * Brief but points to experience: the sense of timelessness can indeed be overwhelming before it’s integrated. * Implies growth: “got over that one” shows the fear can pass. **Limitations:** * Doesn’t explain what “getting over” means; could be read as dismissive. * Missed a chance to reassure or contextualize the original poster’s anxiety. --- ### **3. Dodo** > *“Better than nothing 😆 … I am consciousness! … It’s nothing to cry about, we don’t feel bad in deep sleep…”* **Strengths:** * Offers a lighthearted tone that breaks the heaviness. * Shifts from “trapped” to “I *am* consciousness,” which is the non-dual correction. * Uses relatable imagery (deep sleep) to show that contentless awareness isn’t suffering. **Limitations:** * Humor might feel minimizing to someone in existential dread. * The insight is true but delivered as argument rather than empathy. **Deeper move:** * Could keep the same realization but begin with validation: “Yes, that can feel terrifying at first…” --- ### **4. theoneandnone** > *“Trust me I know it’s fucking terrifying… quantum immortality… could be it but I doubt it.”* **Strengths:** * Honest about fear; gives voice to the emotional side of awakening. * Admits uncertainty, which is humble. **Limitations:** * Mixes existential panic with speculative concepts (quantum immortality, reincarnation). * Stays in the mental realm, fueling anxiety rather than pointing to direct seeing. **Deeper move:** * Could turn inward: “This terror too is being known — what is it that knows the terror?” --- ### **5. Hojo** > *“The crushing feeling is part of awakening… feel totally trapped like a robot… then you are aligning with the truth of reality.”* **Strengths:** * Recognizes that the sense of despair can accompany early awakening. * Affirms the process rather than resisting it. **Limitations:** * Language like “feel totally trapped like a robot” and “someone special will happen to you” is vague and slightly grandiose. * “Aligning with reality” is promising a reward rather than clarifying the nature of awareness. **Deeper framing:** > The feeling of entrapment is the ego’s reaction to the loss of control; what’s actually happening is the revealing of freedom, not alignment with misery. --- ### **Overall thread dynamic** This is a typical early-awakening conversation: one person discovers a terrifying absolute, others reply from different stages — one seasoned but terse, one humorous and corrective, one still fearful, and one leaning mystical-dramatic. What’s missing is a voice that holds both sides: > “Yes, it can feel like being trapped. But the one who feels trapped is also appearing in consciousness. The recognition of that dissolves the trap.” If you were to join that thread, that kind of response — empathetic, experiential, quietly grounded — would balance the mix of fear and abstraction.

If we bring nonduality and Christianity together, we could say that the same awareness that knows the body is the light of life itself, the image of God in which we move and have our being. Of course its paradoxical that we all share the same timeless being, yet we experience different lives, different experiences and stories. Perhaps It's not for any of our singular minds to get, a mystery! Perhaps thats just how the Absolute can experience itself. Might as well just accept that it just Is and to notice the appearance and disappearance of experiences with detatchment, resting as that awareness that knows them.

I can't tell you "why bodies exist" but can guide you into just noticing that these thoughts and the experience of a "trapped self in a body and mind" are all seen by the same You which itself is not trapped in a body and mind. See that you arent trapped in a body, but rather there is an experience of a human seen/experienced by You, consciosness. I can't tell you the entire God's plan of why and how exactly this or that happens, just how to detatch from this sense of being trapped or being the body, because those are appearances/experiences known by you. It's quite liberating. Don't skip, just see for yourself that all this is experienced by you and that "you" cant be seen as an object of experience. Yet all experience is pervaided by that you (empty awareness itself).

@pursuitofspirit better than nothing 😆 But what do you mean by "trapped in state of consciousness" Trapped in a state of myself? Dufuck? 🤣 I am consciousness! That insight is about how nothingness is conscious. Its nothing to cry about, we dont feel bad in deep sleep when all content goes, not even bored, but also definitely not tired of being.

I can't show you mine same way you cant show me yours. We can both show it to our own selves, however. Thats why is important to work on the ego on the spiritual path, cause when you are full of ego you corrupt the Truth of God's being in all of our many lives into solipsism.

@SQAAD complicated. The ground of all experience is Being