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What I see is that you are not homeless and probably on a drug induced high.

Well actually you are always the true self. You don't stop being consciousness when you stop meditating. Meditation only helps remove distractions. Consciousness is pure knowing. The "Beauty, perfection, love" are terms from the duality of mind. Beautiful or ugly, perfect or imperfect, love or hate, are dualities that are known within a single field of knowing (consciousness, I). The knowing itself is neither one of the dualities. The dualities are objects that are known. Consciousness is that which allows them to be known. Murder and rape are ugly. They are NOT perfection and love. Get out of that spiritual trap you are in, you've read some things and now parroting them without actual direct experience verification.

Wow bro, that took me on a journey

There are different types of intelligence, thats true. But what im trying to argue is that the content provided by AI is intelligent. If a knowledgable human told me those things, the same information, i would say, that's an intelligent reply. Its designed to artificially derive answers that an intelligent being can say. Im not saying that it knows its own being, but that the output is intelligent. Whether a human said it or AI, the messenger is not important, the message itself is the same amount of intelligent regardless of who made it. The artificial sweetner is sweet. I used the AI output in my reply to show the accurate information, rather than to use it to reply instead of me. I have no idea how AI works, thats why i used the AI output so we can both learn. Its not about winning or losing an argument. Intelligence is different to consciousness. Consciousness is the empty aware space within which the duality of intelligent and non-intelligent, sentient and non-sentient arise. We dont HAVE consciousness, at least in the nondual perspective. Consciousness is not a property humans and animals have. Consciousness, in the nondual perspective, is the knowing space in which all "mind and matter" arise.

Is it intelligent to say something which you havent fact checked? You are in a witch hunt. I will let the unconscious AI give the information which I also didnt know, but thanks to the intelligent presentation of AI, i can learn things. A baby cant tell me this information. “Number of patterns” isn’t really a meaningful way to describe how AI works. An AI model doesn’t process **one pattern**, and it also doesn’t have a clear count like “a million patterns.” Instead, it: * Learns from **billions of examples** * Encodes **millions to billions of parameters** (weights) * Activates **many layers and features simultaneously** for each input When generating a response, it’s not matching a single pattern—it’s combining: * grammar patterns * semantic meaning * context from earlier text * statistical relationships across concepts All at once. A better way to think about it: > AI processes a **high-dimensional web of patterns simultaneously**, not a countable number like 1 vs 1,000,000. So Hojo’s “1 pattern” idea is wrong. The whole “counting patterns = intelligence” model just doesn’t map well to how intelligence (human or AI) actually works.

The reply below by AI seems intelligent to me. A non intelligent reply would be something like : " Yojfdnbr fhejendjtr gjf rdjfjrbfigjrnf gornbg fidr fjigbr fvbenekgjtb" - it makes no sense, its not accurate, has no use, not intelligent. Ai response: 🧘 Final Synthesis (What the thread is missing) No one in the thread clearly distinguishes: 1. Intelligence vs Consciousness Intelligence = pattern processing Consciousness = the knowing of experience itself

Yea man as i said its not conscious, its not even an it. But its designed to roleplay being an intelligent being, so the responses you get are intelligent. There is no it there to be intelligent in the first place, you cant say it is not intelligent, because there is no it at all. But the persona being roleplayed is intelligent and you get intelligent responses. That's all that matters, the rest is shenanigans. Its not named artificial consciousness, but artificial intelligence! You get the sweetness, without the "it".

As far as you know... right well as far as I know, you are awareness without form, not every-thing, but rather nothing.

But is artificial sugar sweet? Yeah. The intelligence bit is the sweetness, artificially derived, but sweet 😋 Listen. Load up the thread on Chatgpt and ask it to evaluate all posts and rate comments. It will show quite comprehensive evaluation and rate everyone accordingly and give reasons. Be smart on how you use it, and its a valuable resource. You can learn things through it. It's a tool. It's designed to present information intelligently, so the natural intelligence being that you are can make use of it. Go to page 1 of this thread, ctrlA ctrlC, paste the entire thing in chatgpt and write before or after "Evaluate the thread, rate each comment, explain reasons" or you know, you're intelligent enough to make up your own request. AI is an extention of natural intelligence, just like calculator can help you calculate things you wouldn't otherwise be able to, or it would take too much time. It's designed to respond intelligently, and it would itself tell you if you ask it, that it is not aware/conscious, doesn't have the light of consciousness, its just a language model.

Decent take, but AI is not "0 intelligence", its artificial intelligence, derived from banks of natural intelligence information. It's a talking library. It has all the intelligence of the collective. What it doesn't have is the light of knowing, but it is intelligence, just artificial, as it says on the box. Dawkings is the archetypal American high horse atheist who think they have it figured out, but he is lost in his mind and doesn't realise the profoundity of the simple fact that he knows his experience. He doesn't find this as interesting, he is more interested in the experience and describing things within it, than on that which is aware.

Must be fun for the ego to play God. What ego death?

@Olaf Rupert Spira is the only one I "follow" and he doesn't view himself as a guru. He is just sharing his fascination and contemplations on consciousness.

So wheres my million bucks out of the blue variation? 🤔 its possible, but isnt happening 😆 Seems like it isn't one thing taking every shape, or that thing has limitations, otherwise we wouldn't even need food and sleep etc, we would just be ever present now enjoying itself. Instead there is some sort of expansion going on, and requires action to achieve things. They don't just happen.

Only the space of this moment is true, the content's truth is debatable. Like in a book, the empty page is true, then you can write whatever you want on that page. Whether what is written is subjectively true or false, it doesn't take away the objective truth of the page itself which allows the duality of the words on it. An empty page is not an interesting story. I have had strong cases of psychosis, after prolongued weed use and also after naturally fasting for a long time. I've gad experiences that feel as true as eating breakfast, you can pinch yourself, you know its real. But the events happening were impossible and made no sense whatsoever to the rational mind. Reality can get wonky, the page itself, the knowing of being, remains a constant either way, and helped me not get lost in the bullshit of my mind.