Mellowmarsh

It’s very simple to grasp the Nondual concept. The understanding came naturally to me, as easy as discovering one of those hidden images embedded within a magic eye picture, but hidden in plain sight, so to speak. All it takes is to relax the minds eye. The mind is designed to divide reality into two complementary opposites. This division is totally essential for reality to make sense to biological organisms. It’s a fundamental necessity in fact. So it’s just crazy to deny duality as a non-show. For example: There’s no UP without DOWN …But when the mind flips those concepts around, what was DOWN becomes the UP and vice versa. There’s no difference between up or down, the change is simply viewed from a different angle where the opposites are seen to be each and the other coming solely from the perspective of this unchanging observing. There’s no difference there, between up or down, except as and through another perspective, viewed through the lens of perception. . Similarly, this opposite effect can be illustrated another way by using the “necker cube” as an example, also.

I’m here for it.

I still can’t believe Buddhist Monks can just set their bodies on fire without flinching. I felt a similar fire when I chose to give birth naturally without the aid of epidural. The pain was so intense, I literally felt like I was going to lose consciousness, but I somehow didn’t panic but just trusted in the process to be endurable which it was for me. My body did what it was designed to do , it did a great job. But I’m aware not all women are that lucky during the birth process. Some die, others have complications. I was lucky.

Okay, I get it. I just assumed you’d already experienced LSD when you suggested people to smoke it. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

You would know more than I do, because you’ve taken psychedelics or LSD..etc…. You’ve tripped to God knows where. And good for you. Aywashca retreats sound fun too. But I’m too scared to imbibe any mind altering drugs, I wish I could have experienced this stuff, but I’ve lived a sheltered life tbh. Raising kids was always my priority, and I needed to stay sober.

@No1Here2c yes, thanks, I concur. Im doing okay because I chose to love, not hate.

I’m just saying, I can read what you are saying. I hear the words, I’m not caring much about the messenger, just the message is resonating with me that’s all. Same applies to Leo I hear him too, that’s why I chose to participate on his forum. I have no agenda here but to listen to people’s ideas, and make up my own mind about what I’m hearing, and whether it rings true or not. All views are just the same love expression appearing as different words to the same idea, I guess.

I really appreciate this because I can see truth in it. Really wish I wasn’t so damn gullible and naive about this nature stuff. I guess I’m infatuated with the idea of reciprocal love, when I know deep down it is unattainable and impossible to find here on earth. Fact is, we’re born alone, live alone, and die alone. Thanks for the support on this matter. Thing is I’m consciously choosing celibacy and solitude right now because it keeps me alert, well balanced, and sane, in a messed up world.

@No1Here2c I’m agreeing with everything you are saying… I enjoy reading your worldview on these matters from your perspective there. Your pov’s are quite fascinating tbh. Appreciate you being here to share with others.

Maybe my trying to sometimes control the narrative is what makes me so pitiful. I know it’s not up to me who is walking to even direct my step. But somehow I always feel like I’m being carried through life, I remember that there’s something bigger than myself who is the real controller, and my gut always trust that higher power.

Yes it certainly looks that way doesn’t it. It’s depressing, sometimes I just can’t bear it. I just want to disappear and never have to live on earth ever again.

Okay, I understand all that, thank you for explaining it like that, it’s something I can resonate with. I guess my cats are just loving me because I feed them, and yes, if I didn’t feed them they would probably leave home to find another home. You’re right about attacking them too, they would soon show me aggression back at me, they too deserve to defend themselves. I wish I wasn’t so attached to things like my animals and my family and children, knowing they don’t belong to me. Attachment is such a painful thing when all I’m doing here is just watching everything I love die, it’s so hard to let go and surrender, but I’m getting better at it everyday.

@Olaf Referring back to your OP I don’t believe nonduality is ready to be heard by the majority of people on this earth. And I don’t believe those that do hear it, are changed beyond recognition in the sense that they can’t go back to the way they used to live once it’s been understood. I don’t believe suffering ends, nor do I believe you become blissed out or become stress free, like the transcended ones would have you believe. That’s just nonsense to me. I don’t think anyone really changes, like a leopard can’t change its spots. Change happens, but nothing changes is how I experience life. Nonduality maybe the absolute truth, but we are relative beings that must live relative lives, which involves a healthy ego.

Okay, thank you, I understand this, you have an amazing way of explaining these things, I’m so grateful and appreciate your views on these matters.

Humans seem incapable of unconditional love, don’t you agree. I have cats, they teach me unconditional love, they are my soulmates on this earth. I would literally spend my entire day caring for these animals because they deserve to be treated like the unconditional sacred divine creatures they are. But at the same time, I eat meat, and feel disgusted with myself knowing these divine creatures had to be slaughtered and robbed of their lives. I just can’t get my head around why I’m happy to turn a blind eye when it comes to say pig slaughter for bacon consumption, yet I’d lay down my own life for my cats…I just don’t understand what that’s all about tbh.