Mellowmarsh

I just say God is the everything without an identity. The everything that’s infinitely unfolding from within and out of itself, it’s only self, as in the spider and the web analogy. That’s how I personally interpret God. I have no idea what God is being seen for someone who has used psychedelics to reach God realisation, because that’s never been my personal experience. Personally, I believe we’re each our own universe, and never the Twain shall meet. When two universes collide, in my opinion they become one universe together. Or something like that, it’s just how I’m able to describe the way I see it. Its going to be different for each individual universe, obviously. When I say individual, I mean different strands of the same infinite web.

Okay, cool, thanks for the clarification. Sincerely appreciate your input here.

You’re very welcome, anytime bro. 👊 Stay cool. 😎

Yes, it was a huge energetic experience, it felt like taking in the whole ocean in just one gulp. It wasn’t terrifying, it was very exhilarating. I wasn’t surprised it happened as I’d been preparing for something to blow my brains to kingdom come. So when it happened I was quite relieved, actually. 🙂

Talking to Breakingthewall about these things is like an oil and water situation. The conversation quickly becomes fuzzy, even opaque, where neither one or the other in conversation can see through what the other person is saying. It’s like trying to imagine what it’s like to be inside someone else’s head, it’s impossible. So the conversation rarely reaches a mutual understanding. Sometimes it does, but mostly it doesn’t. He somehow has managed to convince himself that nondual teaching is about the denial of ego and reality. This is totally a misunderstanding and is definitely not what is being taught. It’s just so disingenuous to keep using the denial card against people who resonate with the nondual message. It’s difficult to get through to people who are so well dug into their own carved out groove in regards to their own version of reality. It’s pointless to keep fleshing it out repeatedly, it’s exhausting. I have no personal problem with other people’s ideas, if that’s how they are personally perceiving. There’s nothing I can say to change another person’s idea, and it’s never on my agenda to alter another person’s word view. For me, it’s very black and white, we either resonate with someone else’s ideas or we don’t. We can only report from the lens of our own personal perspective according to how we are perceiving our experiences anyway. Sometimes I even think forums like this often incite people into becoming hostile or in opposition towards others in their attempt to defend their well grooved positions. That’s why to me, it’s pointless and a waste of time persuading others around to your own point of view, especially when it’s clear they are not seeing another’s position from their own position. It’s just better to leave the conversation if it’s going nowhere, if it’s not meeting in the middle.

Yes, for me it was an instantaneous, spontaneous for want of a better word. I’d been trying to understand myself from the moment I became aware of myself at the age of 4 or 5 I was naturally drawn to nondual teaching. Then after looking into that teaching, it wasn’t long before the Big Bang happened, where my whole body exploded into nothingness. Lol that’s how I like to describe my experience anyway, albeit illusory. Lol

For the sense of self, there’s nothing else for that sense of self to relate to other than the word of self. Identification.

They’ve had an imagined cessation, not a real one, because it’s not a cessation that a “ someone “ has. There’s just the instant recognition that there simply nothing that separates this from that, and no one is having that recognition. It’s just a smoke and mirror effect. Nothing actually there to not be there.

Btw, quotes like that are open to interpretation. The way I interpret the quote is to mean.. I have no mind to control what happens, either something happens or it doesn’t, like split milk can never return to its unspilt state. There’s just what’s happening in the immediacy of an event, where nothing causes what seems to have happened in effect upon the minds reflection. The mind is always on reflection of what’s already happened. So this mind is a mirage, it’s an illusion, it doesn’t exist anywhere in the world of things because things are made of mind that are made of illusory constructed labels.

Good good 👍🙌 hallefuckinglujah!!

I view it as they’ve said nothing. But not in a negative derogatory sense. It’s just all blah blah blah noise to me personally.

Yeah, it took every last breath from my body. I’m sailing without a sail now. There’s no wind in my sail anymore. It’s lighter than a feather. Just pure effortless being. Going nowhere, doing nothing, infinitely for eternity, including this story.

Beautiful James, just as I understand it too. Thanks for all you do here at the forum. Well not you per se, but you understand. 😉

For me personally, I’ve simply unraveled myself until there was no more me. To me personally…words that sound spiritual is just meaningless jargon, an artificially invented dogma that has no sense of meaning or purpose whatsoever. Words to me, are just a bunch of meaningless nonsense that I have used to build a sense of personal identity with, they have been something that has shaped my character, in the belief that this character is real. But I instinctively knew that character wasn’t real, that’s when I had to unravel it, and that’s all I did, without using any drug either. Never imbibed an hallucinogenic substance in my entire life. Didn’t need to.

Looks familiar, no?yes?