Mellowmarsh

Sorry, typo alert. That was meant to say ( THIS IS IT ) Amen.

Tony Parsons would sometimes say in his talks ( There’s only the Beloved ) Its just another way of saying (God) So of course all these words are pointing to the same God, I mean what is not God. God is just blindingly obvious. (This it it) 👈 That’s the title of one of Tony’s books.

There’s no such thing as nonduality, because nonduality is not a thing. Unmistakably.

Good James. 👆Excellent pointing. Are you really in control of the actions you experience? Do “you” send messages to your muscles telling them to operate? To your eyes telling them to see? To your brain telling it to understand? Do you tell the wind to blow or the sun to shine? Aren’t these happening all by themselves, without a story of “you” required to make them happen?

Yes, moving beyond the Witness means realising that the observer and the observed are not separate. If there is "nothing beyond the witness," it means you have stripped away all identifications with the body, mind, and emotions, arriving at pure being an unnamable space of emptiness and awareness without a centre.You no longer stand apart from the universe as an observer. The Witness simply dissolves into the totality of the experience itself.

I just say God is the everything without an identity. The everything that’s infinitely unfolding from within and out of itself, it’s only self, as in the spider and the web analogy. That’s how I personally interpret God. I have no idea what God is being seen for someone who has used psychedelics to reach God realisation, because that’s never been my personal experience. Personally, I believe we’re each our own universe, and never the Twain shall meet. When two universes collide, in my opinion they become one universe together. Or something like that, it’s just how I’m able to describe the way I see it. Its going to be different for each individual universe, obviously. When I say individual, I mean different strands of the same infinite web.

Okay, cool, thanks for the clarification. Sincerely appreciate your input here.

You’re very welcome, anytime bro. 👊 Stay cool. 😎

Yes, it was a huge energetic experience, it felt like taking in the whole ocean in just one gulp. It wasn’t terrifying, it was very exhilarating. I wasn’t surprised it happened as I’d been preparing for something to blow my brains to kingdom come. So when it happened I was quite relieved, actually. 🙂

Talking to Breakingthewall about these things is like an oil and water situation. The conversation quickly becomes fuzzy, even opaque, where neither one or the other in conversation can see through what the other person is saying. It’s like trying to imagine what it’s like to be inside someone else’s head, it’s impossible. So the conversation rarely reaches a mutual understanding. Sometimes it does, but mostly it doesn’t. He somehow has managed to convince himself that nondual teaching is about the denial of ego and reality. This is totally a misunderstanding and is definitely not what is being taught. It’s just so disingenuous to keep using the denial card against people who resonate with the nondual message. It’s difficult to get through to people who are so well dug into their own carved out groove in regards to their own version of reality. It’s pointless to keep fleshing it out repeatedly, it’s exhausting. I have no personal problem with other people’s ideas, if that’s how they are personally perceiving. There’s nothing I can say to change another person’s idea, and it’s never on my agenda to alter another person’s word view. For me, it’s very black and white, we either resonate with someone else’s ideas or we don’t. We can only report from the lens of our own personal perspective according to how we are perceiving our experiences anyway. Sometimes I even think forums like this often incite people into becoming hostile or in opposition towards others in their attempt to defend their well grooved positions. That’s why to me, it’s pointless and a waste of time persuading others around to your own point of view, especially when it’s clear they are not seeing another’s position from their own position. It’s just better to leave the conversation if it’s going nowhere, if it’s not meeting in the middle.

Yes, for me it was an instantaneous, spontaneous for want of a better word. I’d been trying to understand myself from the moment I became aware of myself at the age of 4 or 5 I was naturally drawn to nondual teaching. Then after looking into that teaching, it wasn’t long before the Big Bang happened, where my whole body exploded into nothingness. Lol that’s how I like to describe my experience anyway, albeit illusory. Lol

For the sense of self, there’s nothing else for that sense of self to relate to other than the word of self. Identification.

They’ve had an imagined cessation, not a real one, because it’s not a cessation that a “ someone “ has. There’s just the instant recognition that there simply nothing that separates this from that, and no one is having that recognition. It’s just a smoke and mirror effect. Nothing actually there to not be there.

Btw, quotes like that are open to interpretation. The way I interpret the quote is to mean.. I have no mind to control what happens, either something happens or it doesn’t, like split milk can never return to its unspilt state. There’s just what’s happening in the immediacy of an event, where nothing causes what seems to have happened in effect upon the minds reflection. The mind is always on reflection of what’s already happened. So this mind is a mirage, it’s an illusion, it doesn’t exist anywhere in the world of things because things are made of mind that are made of illusory constructed labels.