Mellowmarsh

You demanded I block you. I refused. I just can’t be like that, even if you can, that’s your prerogative anyway. Now you’re saying I am free to comment on things you say. That’s what happens when you shut others down, you become a talking contradiction.

I understand. It’s okay.

No, you thought we had one, not we. I don’t block people, that’s your fetish not mine.

Love.

Shut up then. That’s the difference between me and you, you shut people down, you shut them off, you demand to be blocked and close off all communication channels. You take things too personally, you have a stubborn tendency to look for an argument , it’s your mentality, whereas as I don’t do that with other people, I’m open to other people, not closed off, or shutting them down, that’s just not who I am, that’s not how I groove.

Yeah well that’s just stating the obvious. People of the actualised.org ilk already know that anyway, especially if they’ve been paying attention to their higher inner teacher.

🙏

Okay I understand your concerns about certain words being confusing. Like the word ( illusion) But the word can be something interpreted as not exactly “nonexistent”, but rather, just not as it seems or appears to be. Personally I don’t have a problem with the words “ illusory or nothing” they’re just symbolic representations of the same reality that cannot be refuted or negated as nonexistent, because there’s no such experience as nonexistence, which you already know of course. I don’t personally think there’s anything wrong with using certain words that appear to be the wrong words to describe reality because many are just different words for the same thing really, they can be interpreted to mean different things to different people, or situations. It’s just different that’s all, but ultimately difference where there isn’t any, as there’s only one reality, and we’re all sharing and being that one reality.

@Someone here Thanks. I understand what you’re saying. It’s the unnamed that doesn’t sleep, yeah? And that’s what we call God, yeah?

Just for your information, I personally don’t think this about avoiding pain and suffering, it’s about a curiosity as to whom pain and suffering is arising to. On closer introspection which is the nature of the self aware human being that then discovers that pain and suffering arises and is not personal, even though it jolly well feels personal. No person is denying their sense of self doesn’t exist, I mean that’s impossible simply because the pain and suffering still arises anyway, so there must necessarily be something that is aware of these sensations , it’s not as if these sensations are suddenly going to stop arising just because some human being has transcended the illusion of separation, no, the sensations are still going to arise, and the human being is able to recognise that these sensations are not personal anymore, that’s all. No human being I know is denying the sense of self doesn’t actually exist, that’s just another sensation that cannot not exist because it’s simply known to exist, but not to any one personally, that’s all, because we’re all subject to the same pain and suffering, just as we’re all breathing the same air, and bleeding the same red blood.

Like I’ve just said..Self deleting is not Self defeating. The dynamic of Self is fully recognised to not mind or resist what happens in the immediacy of happening. Because it’s not like happening can ever stop happening from happening by unhappening itself, can it?

😂 Yes, I understand the contradiction, I must be tripping again. 😂😉

Yes but then isn’t the word ( God ) also name/form, therefore the dream? So is Papaji saying the “Wake up” from dream is the disappearance of name and form, which includes the name God? If this is what’s being said, then that just says no name or form ever sleeps or wakes up? Or, put another way, no named thing ever slept or awakened. Is that correct? And if that’s correct, then does the claim ‘God doesn’t sleep’ make any sense?

The words of God are inseparable from the good book upon which the words are inscribed as an imprint of the imageless blank pages. Eh?

There’s no dream to awaken ( from/ to ) without sleep. Eh?