Mellowmarsh

Okay.

In this conception known, yes.

@AerisVahnEphelia 🙂

My point which you seem to miss is that there’s no one who claims to own pain as my pain, there’s just pain, and it’s very palpable and real and not untrue. No one is claiming this knowledge, it’s simply known by the only knowing there is that cannot be known. Again, one cannot know the absolute because one is the absolute. Knowledge can only point to the illusory nature of reality. Humans were not meant to wake up because no one wakes up. This immediate life is already wide awake,the belief in a “ someone “ who awakens is an illusion. That’s the whole story that this thread was pointing to.

This relative claim is a knowledge is a "relative term" defined entirely by its correlative: the knowable object. The totality cannot be known by a relative object known as a human. An object is a projection of the absolute, an object cannot know the absolute because it is the absolute.

Again, pain is not untrue, pain is very much real and true absolutely. I think we’d all agree on that one as a fact.

I’ve noticed you’ve said a few times the “chosen one’s” That’s nonsense, it’s not an understanding specifically designed only for the “chosen one’s” to know. It’s is not a personal achievement, it’s either understood or it’s not, and when it is, it is consciousness recognising its own universal interconnected nature. For Human mind there’s a sense of separation that helps them function in the physical world. Beneath the surface of everyday thoughts lies a continuous field of existence where everything is fundamentally connected. Awakening doesn’t mean 'you' awaken. It means that there is only awakening. There is no 'you' who is awake; there is only awakeness. That’s what Ramana is pointing to in the op video.

Relatively real is absolutely real. The illusion of real doesn’t change, an illusion is absolutely an illusion and never not an illusion. This absolute unchanging changing illusion is real.

@Hyperion Only dead people don’t feel pain. No one with a fully functioning nervous system escapes the sensation of pain. And no, it’s not great, if you ask me, unless you say it’s great, then it’s great.

Anyways, getting back to the original point, dogs don’t know they know. Unlike humans who do not lack metacognition. Metacognition is unique to humans serving as an interpretive story ( fiction ) we tell ourselves after the fact.

Like words inscribed upon a flowing river with watercolour paint.

🙏😀

Lol to the laziness. Beautiful message from a really nice authentic person. I’ve always felt a genuine warmness about you, and here’s the proof I was right, right here in real-face-time. Lol..Good for you, blessings and peace to you forever man.