Mellowmarsh

A genuine curious question for you Mr. Breakingthewall This “formless” you mentioned above in your post, that takes the structure of a self now, must by definition look like what exactly? What does a formless structured self actually look like, to you personally, what I mean is, does this self structure formed by the formless have an image that can be looked upon? And if you say yes, it can be looked upon, then can you show to us readers what this looked upon formless formed structure of self looks like, so that we can all see for ourselves what it is you are attempting to show us? Can you do that so we can get some idea of how real it is in your personal logic ? If you can’t show us then just be honest and say you can’t, but if you can show us then that will be much appreciated thanks. I’ll wait patiently for your response, I’m looking forward to seeing what you show us.

Yes. 💯 percent agree. Entanglement is unavoidable in this conception no one ever conceived.

This is a prime example of misunderstanding. Nonduality does not argue that self must disappear, nonduality is the understanding that there’s often a misunderstanding of what the self is and is not, and it’s the misunderstanding that “falls away” and not that the actual self must disappear. Assuming there is a self that can actually disappear would be like assuming there is a self that can experience it’s own absence, which it can’t. It cannot even experience its own presence either because that too is ownership, and a false claim. Self is totally present without a second. That’s what nonduality means. Self is here to stay, what “falls away” is the idea the self can be claimed or owned. When there’s no thought of a “my” self…..then what remains is Nondual self or Nondual consciousness, unbounded and unlimited by thoughts taking ownership of.

Non dual consciousness is not about eliminating opposites, but rather living in the creative tension of a "both/and" reality instead of an "either/or" trap. The self is a thing, so there’s actually no such thing as nonduality because nonduality is not a “thing”

The heavy sense of a separate vulnerable identity trying to defend itself “ falls away “ Thoughts, emotions, and memories continue to arise, but they are no longer claimed as “mine” or as defining who you are. There’s a psychological construct built around the sense of self, but it’s an illusory construct.

That’s an elementary issue, regular experience is a trip without tripping.

I’m sure you’ll stand in for the position of the perfect cleaner. No worries. 😌

No one cares.

Absolutely. 💯

Imagine a man wants to build a hill on a flat piece of land. The hill will represent the universe. To make this hill he digs a hole in the ground and uses that soil to dig his hill. But of course he's not just making a hill—he's also making a hole, in effect a negative version of the hill. The stuff that was in the hole has now become the hill, so it all perfectly balances out. This is the principle behind what happened at the beginning of the universe. When the Big Bang produced a massive amount of positive energy, it simultaneously produced the same amount of negative energy. In this way, the positive and the negative add up to zero, always. It's another law of nature. So where is all this negative energy today? It's in the third ingredient in our cosmic cookbook: it's in space. This may sound odd, but according to the laws of nature concerning gravity and motion—laws that are among the oldest in science—space itself is a vast store of negative energy. Enough to ensure that everything adds up to zero.

I’m a never stepping in the same river twice type.

No.

Category error. Needs deconstructing to reach clarity, good luck with that one.