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One of my fears is getting old and having to deal with these types. Lock 'm in young guys. It is not getting easier. Or you have to be like 50 year old going for 25 year old but in that case you need to have your health, weath and spirituality in order.

Do people look strange at you if you date 20 year old as 50 year old? Because I'm in my 30'ies and I was dating this 18 year old and I saw older women look at me all the time. Most older women have big egos which make them a pain in the ass. At that point I realized the best way to get it is to destroy her ego (if she has a big ego which cute girls have most of the time) and it has only been uphill from that point.

I don’t think she gets it.

I think she left the forum because she got in an argument with Leo about something silly.

She has her problems 🤦‍♂️ ... I think she would do much better if she opened her self up to the masculine perspective

that is what I thought too, unfortunately some people try to ruin my thread

@Natasha Tori Maru I’m dating actually right now. I think you are projecting. You have a grudge towards masculine men for some reason. And you know why. And for some reason you are projecting it onto me to resolve something inside of yourself.

The masculine grudge towards feminine nature. I think if somebody has a grudge, it is palable, it doesn't matter if you are male or female.

So what is the proof of the pudding? I'm doing ok and I'm dating right now. @Valach to answer your question, red pill helped me because I only took the good stuff out of it. But I kind of outgrown it. Red pill isn't meant to linger in it. Especially it is sad if older men get stuck in it. Saying all of red pill is bad is throwing out the baby with the bath water. And it is also discounting the current masculinity grudge.

There is a grain of truth in it though. I think a new kind of pill should come out that takes the best of the material and leave out the toxic stuff.

I don't watch it. I come across it sometimes. That is not how attraction works. I like to play with SD green but also lower. Every type of development has it pro's and cons. I wouldn't say a SD green girl is always better than for example SD blue. I look at potential too and coachability. From my exp, a lot of SD green women have been around the block and have a lot emotional baggage. You can easily recognize them by the undertone "all men" and men need to do x and y. So what are you saying? You are saying open relationship is the only type of high cosncious relationship. You guys really need to drop these gimmicky words that don't mean anything. High consciousness is not a single metric to begin with.

it is just your thoughts, since body/mind is connected, they are not two separate things, so you can't be stuck in it. Mind and body are literally the same thing.

Relative self is the one you can observe versus the observer.

When you are tier 2, tier 1 people will drive you crazy. It is important to separate the weed from the chaff. It will create a lot of resentment in yourself and it will cause a lot of conflict. When you are tier 2 you just need tier 1 people to be. They have their own generational arch they have to go through. Now I kind of the get the illuminate pyramide. The upper has to separate itself from the riff raff. And this the hierachy that is needed for civilization to stand tall. Without the elite, there is no civilization. Recently through serendipity, I met some wealthy people. And they offered to do business with me because they recognized the intellect and where they were when they started out. I noticed some inner blocks within me. It felt kind of surreal. Some rich guy just trusting me with thousands of dollars. But I didn't have the confidence and he felt that. And I just spoke it out and he appreciated it. When you are on this turning point you need to let go of jealous people and the riff raff people around you. Because they infect you with their mindset. Their hard headedness and scarcity mindset is not only a drag onto themselves but they also burden others with it. I never had motiviation to become rich because I already have everything I want and need in terms of material stuff. I just valued time more than money. Because with free time I can develop myself. But I have come to a point that I realized that I can't tolerate tier 1 people anymore. And obviously you have to tolerate them but I just want to minimize my interactions with them. Major insights I had talkign to reach people is that they are egocentric. Like how else can you become rich? And secondly they have an iron clad frame. Sometimes to their own detriment. But it is also benefiticial. It is a double edged sword. When you become tier 2, rich people will circle around you. Because you have the skills they need. You just need to talk to a lot of people until you come across them and then you are in a different fellowship.

Development is not linear like that. So you can’t say if you are tier 2 than x and y, and you can’t have this or that trait because then you are not tier 2. How you should look at spiral dynamics is like a spine. And every vertebrae is a stage of development. Some vertebrae might be developed and other might not be. So my highest vertebrae might be SD yellow but I might be lacking some red, blue or orange etc. Ken Wilber does say that every person has center of gravity. That is basically your median. currently I’m integrating sd orange for a stable spiral spine so to say. This explains why you can be at a high stage and still have some problems like addiction, anger issues or other personality problems. For example when you lack discipline and you have addictions you might be in red and you need to anchor your red shadow to integrate it into blue.

That is purple

For example if your friend is jealous on you and plotting against you unconsciously. It is healthy to walk away or distance them a little a bit. Most people who are jealous will never admit. Because they are not aware of it. Most people don’t even know about the unconscious although 80% of the human is unconscious. Even Leo rarely talks about it which is why I don’t categorize him as a high conscious person.

@Jordan of the Shire it has to do with the pre trans fallacy. Basically you have to synthesize their pov and your own pov and not discount your own pov which SD green and other “sacrifice self” stages do.

The consciousness field of an animal and a human is the same. The difference is that the animal has less complex brain so it can't speak and also cognitive/mental overlay is very simple. Don't ask me how I know this.

Tier 2 is not only limited to systems thinking. Main attribute of tier 2 is vision logic, something your master has kept you completely blind to. She is definitely bringing a lot of things together. So she is in the twilight zone between green and yellow. But you can't judge somebody's cognitive skill based on a 30 second video.

Human body is like an animal. It will need time to adapt to new routines. Instead of trying to implement them all at once. Do it incrementally. So add one habit the first week. Next week another. And so on. Trying to implement 10 habits at once will create resentment. Rather just fuck yourself at this point lol. It is not going to work on the long term. You aren’t a pc onto which you can upload 10 new programs mf.

Tier 1 people are very hard headed. For example at work or in business, I give them good advice and they still do what they want to do. Fuck up and bring other people with them. And sometimes that involves me too. I want to become rich so I can impose my decision onto them as the boss. Because if you are just regular employee you can’t impose and have to argue with every moron. They lack basic logic. And I’m not in the business to teach basic logic. There is a reason why companies aren’t democracies. If regular employees would get a say all companies would go bankrupt. That is probably the down turn of democracy. Tier 1 tyranny overruling tier 2 people.

I’m not looking down on tier 1. I’m protecting myself from tier 1 stupidity by putting a wall between me and tier 1 people. In the same way I want a wall between me and a wild beast like a lion or an ape. Even this forum is filled with primitive people. This forum can’t function without going ape shit once a year. Just imagine putting these actualized apes on an island and what would happen. Most average Joes are stupidly dangerous. We should thank the elites for even wanting to rule us dumb fucks. Notice how most advance countries have an elite. Elites are top of the pyramid and for the pyramid (civilization) to exist at all we need to protect the elite because if it is up to the riff raff they want to destroy the elite which would bring down civilization. Because they are the one with the brains and have actually tier 2 vision logic on the cognitive developmental line. Nobody on this forum has vision logic. It is a very rare trait.

Make me a sandwich

People say humans have inherent value but on what is this based? I always believed one needed to develop to be of value.