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@LordFall I had an electric bike business on the side but I fucked up and flew too close to the sun with crypto and I lost everything. Now I’m trying to scramble back up. But I’m seeing you are very early in your journey. So I’m surprised you can finance multiple girls. That is basically what Andrew Tate suggests. Getting dates is not too difficult for me right now so I can’t imagine how easy it would be if I would contribute to a girl’s survival. You don’t even need game in that case. It is just basically Andrew Tate style control / provision to a girl’s lifestyle. I don’t even know if I want that. Because I’m not only in for the girls but also in for the skill acquisition of getting a girl. Currently I’m working on frame. It is easy to get girls but a lot of times I drop frame and fail shit tests.

@LordFall I can’t finance that lifestyle but I agree that is dating on easy mode

If you say women only date for the status hierarchy you are basically saying she is a smart prostitute. Instead of fucking for money she fucks for status. And instead of multiple different ugly clients just one guy who does the provision.

@LordFall the girls that have been paying for the dates or splitting the bill where one of the hottest girls I have dated. Who pays doesn’t influence much as long as you keep the masculine frame. If your masculine frame breaks down becuase she paid for the ice cream yea that is going to be a problem

So you are basically saying girls are prostitutes. That is what you are saying if you reduce it like that. I think SD green girls can be different. I have been out with SD green girls and they have been paying for everyting and I got to fuck for free. Your strategy only is true for third and second world countries. In which country do you live?

Although I agree with your vibe, I'm not sure about your reduction of dating to a status hierachy game.

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You guys are nitpicking the wrong thing. I agree with Ken Wilber on this one. You guys don’t even understand basic modernity. Let stand post modernity vis-à-vis the big three: truth, goodness and beauty and how it apples to the strawberry metaphor.

That is what I meant. One must be neutral towards it. So I don't need to like strawberries to understand it (reread Leo's comment towards me) meaning I'm neutral towards it. You guys are gaslightening me and then think you are smart 🤣

Nah, Ken Wilber is very clear about this topic. Taste/preference and truth are completely different domains. You can dislike something and still fully understand it. Conflating the two is a very basic category error. You thinking you have to like something for it to be true is actually epistemologically unsound. That means you only think those things are true that you like. For example if I dislike strawberries and I'm self aware of that, and not let it infect my truth seeking, there is no problem. But thinking you have to like strawberries to understand creates blind spots and you might look unreasonably favorable at strawberries. It is the same mistake from another angle.

Just understanding what a strawberry is doesn’t make me like it. For example find somebody who dislikes strawberries and tell him everything there is to know about strawberries. It won’t change his taste.

Everybody has a bias for survival. And it is ok to know that and also ok to act upon that. So if somebody comes inside of your room and tries to rape your ass it is ok to defend yourself and act upon your bias for survival. I think you guys are conflating a lot of things.

If we use that definition, everybody has some bias including women. Because I don't see women looking at men from men's POV, they look at men from female POV too. It is not that I don't have the capacity to not look from female woman's POV. I'm way passed that. The difference is that I don't get swallowed up by the female POV and own my own POV/frame while others are swallowed up by the dominating mainstream feminist POV. And for the record, I totally subscribe to base level feminism. I just don't subscribe to female egocentrism: for example that emotions should be more important than truth.

Define bias. I think you are misinterpreting me.

Ok if you say so