Key Elements

Debating wastes time.

Who cares?

Note: I want to make a little note here just in case there's a misunderstanding. Describing something isn't a debate. It doesn't mean anything, and it doesn't really matter. Life continues. If someone wants to know something, then ok, one can try one's best to describe something that can't fully be described.

It's more like this, except going backwards.

Very very interesting passage you wrote here. I noticed something that I want to share according to what you wrote here. Take a look at these two "religions." Christianity: Heaven, Earth, Hell Buddhism: To Enjoy, To Love, To Suffer Like I said in my post here, when you awake from an enlightenment experience, you are left with a 'feeling' (huge residue of) 'divine love' and 'bliss.' This relates to peace, not suffering. If the person wants to head toward peace (in an infinite way), then do things in one's life that will bring about peace in this world. After all, all is you.

I found interesting leadership pics that explain the differences between just being a boss and being a leader. Just wanted to share them. I realize that this is especially true in startups/entrepreneurship.

@Leo Gura Awesome pic Leo. Now, pls don't interpret what I'm about to say the wrong way. I'm only saying it according to my experience, ok? (It's not a debate.) It's riding the ox backwards into one's body from nothingness, maybe not with M.C. Escher's drawing of lizards. Below..just another pic, just another hint. Then, one is left with a huge residue of 'divine love' / 'bliss' when awaken.

@quantum Hi, What helped me is gradually training myself to let go of the past and understanding that it no longer exists. (It never existed anyway.) My mind goes to doing the things I love. I watch only the things that inspire me on YouTube. It's not so easy to watch the useful videos. Sometimes it's so much easier to watch the useless ones. But, I gradually weaned myself off of it. Another thing is making true friends. You don't have to wear a "mask" around them. You could be yourself. There is acceptance. True friends are an inspiration because the next time we meet, I do want to share with them how far I am on my milestone in life. I do want to bring something of inspiration to the table. I love seeing them smile. I love the motivation we have toward each other. I hope this helps.

Actually, replace that love word with infatuation and the statement will make more sense.

Nope. You're not the only one. According to my experience, I'm from outer outer space beyond anything. Then, for some reason, I became embodied as a "human."

Yes. True. Aren't we "God/Allah/Infinite" too? (Paradox.) Surely Leo, there has to be paradox. We still come back down to earth after our enlightenment experience, even if this is all illusional/fictional. We don't stay "up" there in "heaven" experiencing "divine love" and peace, although that's what we are all the time. We could practice being this non-duel while we're here on earth. (I know that there's nothing/nothingness in front of me.) Just saying non-duel could be misleading. Not everyone's life purpose is no purpose and to work at 7/11. I saw all that debate. (Looks funny. ) I think it doesn't matter which type of thinking you choose, both lead up to the same mountain top, whether it's non-duel or non-duel/paradox. From my experience, the second one helps since we have to deal with everyday living.

You know, Leo, I'm not trying to debate here. I'm only trying to point something out to learn from it. Infinite is infinite. It's non-duel. So, knowing this, we can choose to live our lives on earth in peace, like monks/gurus/sages, like the movie Avitar. This is a stage turquoise society. However, most of the society is at stage orange, not turquoise. Therefore, we create startups, like actualized.org, to teach about living in peace, to bring up the vibe of stage orange society. It's completely your choice, Leo, to choose to live as a monk/guru/sage right now. However, if you want to make more sacrifices than just teaching peace through a startup, like actualized.org, then it's your choice. But, I would say, be wise about it. We still have to live in this "fictional awareness" we call earth. We don't live in "heaven" just yet, like in our enlightenment experience. If you say that we do, then it's up to you. I understand that. However, we are still looking at a "fictional/illusional" stage orange society to raise the vibe. That's all I want to say. Thanks for actualized.org, Leo.

@Leo Gura Yes, I did. I already shared it with you in two places here in your forum. (Although, it's not my full story.) Looks like how we interpret infinite is different. To me, just to say and shout out, "ABSOLUTE INFINITY! ABSOLUTE INFINITY! ABSOLUTE INFINITY! ABSOLUTE INFINITY!..." and apply it in real life is too simple. If it's just that, why bother with the word "paradox?" ----------------------------------------------- "And get a move on it! Life is ticking away" -Leo Yeah yeah, I know. Just wanted to point out something before you make such a drastic decision like some sages do.

@Leo Gura Yes Leo, I get your point. I saw your 5meo clip. What I'm saying is the paradox of that. Why do we even have to come back down to earth to experience this "duel earth awareness," even though it's fictional and it doesn't actually exist? Surely, there must be a good reason. Otherwise, it wouldn't be here. I'm talking about the paradox of what you said.

Be careful with doing #1 and #3. Monks/gurus/sages do those things for a good reason. They could make sacrifices for someone else or for the world. I understand that we live in a non-duel reality. Our thoughts are coming from nothingness - that we are just a "program." There is no "you." Yes, I get all that. The thing is, the opposite is also true, right? That's why they call it paradox. We don't live in a black and white world; we live in a gray one. It's not so easy to say that it's completely non-duel/no free-will when there is paradox. You (we) could at least plan your (our) next milestone. If it doesn't work out, that's ok too. So, how do you explain paradoxes? Non-duel verses duel? Ego verses fictional ego? Free-will verses no free-will? What is the paradox of no free-will? Surely, we have a drop of free-will, no? It's because of paradoxes. If not, what's the point of us seeing this duel awareness we call earth?

Here's a little hint. Go to Kiyosaki's book, Guide to Investing. Fill out the diagram below from the book. Once you're done with that, go to Spiral Dynamics (Leo's clip and also there's a book on it) starting from stage orange with the diagram and go to the more advanced stages. Experience that with your passion (something you love to do). Take action on that.

Paradox Poem