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Good question. Good topic. Ask yourself, how could I build a life purpose that is convincing to help others get on the path?
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We already have a thread where we answered this topic many times. Now it's just being repeated.
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These are actually good questions. It's actually interconnected. That's what I heard and make of it. You still have to live this life to your fullest. Help others learn to love and reduce suffering. Otherwise, why would it be here? You may get an awakening (enlightenment experience, experiencing the no-self), but you may not achieve nirvana by the end of your lifetime. Depending on your karma, you'll come back on earth again learning lessons until you get it right. You have a choice to take action and move forward. Ask yourself, which would you rather do if you had a choice--let go of your ego and experience the no-self (awakening)? Or, achieve nirvana upon your actual death because you reduced suffering on earth? I would take the latter. Ideally, one would want to experience both, but in most cases, the latter is the better choice. If you go for the latter, sometimes you'll have an awakening automatically because you've reduced your karma. It could work in many ways and in no particular order. Karma is incredibly profound and should be taken into consideration while going through life. Use your life purpose as a vehicle to move you forward, learn your lessons, and reduce suffering for others and eventually, the world.
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@Peace and Love Bottom line: this is how relationships actually work, whether or not you're polyamorous. That's the big picture. If a person can work out such thing in a polyamorous relationship, so be it. And, after a 'good relationship has been settled,' it's time to really focus on the life purpose. By then, you won't be thinking about relationships anymore.
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Go travelling, explore, enjoy, but stay safe in whatever you do. Contemplate on having good boundaries. Example: I think stage orange can become reckless and stuck if one becomes unaware of any healthy boundaries--not just this area but different areas (Eg. relationships, health, education, money, entrepreneurship, etc., even exploring spirituality/non-duality--yes, it could go overboard).
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Red to Blue:
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Nice business:
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You forgot blue. A person could stay really stuck in orange without any boundaries (esp in relationships, for example, before it happens). A person may not be able to say, "Enough is enough! This person is about to overstep my boundaries." Looks like a person doesn't have any red flags or underdelveloped red flags skipping through this stage. A person did not really think it through why others have certain boundaries different than his/her own. The person just pass it off as "conservative" / "traditional." Orange is too much of a distraction without a few boundaries. If you get into a situation where you hurt yourself from the very beginning just because you didn't "do as you were told," you "paint yourself to a corner." So, just because of this one moment of not listening to someone without much thought to it, you suffer throughout your life. You didn't bother to protect yourself from day 1.
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Pointers to spirituality and non-duality in stage orange style for marketing the hidden messages indirectly and creatively: -Karma & the negative paranormal is being pointed out here: (7.8 M likes, 2.4 B views currently, something like enlightenment doesn't just happen and you can't induce it. It's not that simple; is it? Karma is there. You got to work for it by figuring out how to show love in this world in your own way. The meaning can't be just about earning money, chasing relationships, etc.) -Nothingness / Singularity / Non-duality is being pointed out here: (Sung by Kelly Clarkson, someone who won the American Idle. At 2:18--"I want to know that you will catch me when I fall." Fall refers to the singularity in classical enlightenment.) At 1:03, Shinzen Young said that most enlightened people are not public figures. I agree. It's not easy to relate to non-duality and market it. It's only at the very top of Maslow's. However, it could be in the form of hidden messages and mixed in with a life purpose in some way via entrepreneurship. Don't forget to incorporate philanthropy. If it's just for $ and to live lavishly, it may just fuel the ego. Be humble.
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Yes.
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@Shinyes it is possible, if you stop looking and focusing at the person's gender and get to know him/her for real. The same is true for other things, like "race." The thing to do is stop putting ppl in certain categories and judging/assuming, and listen and allow the person to be authentic.
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I'm going to keep this as simple as possible. I chose to learn two languages so that I could express: what does it mean by "we are one." Learning two languages also gave me the opportunity to be more marketable. I became a bilingual teacher. There are also other opportunities: translator, bilingual art, bilingual art teaching, etc. It's very broad and flexible. My LP: to teach non-duality and languages through bilingual art in fun, easy, and simple ways. Hint: try to make your interests broad so that it could include profound things and other opportunities.
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Ok, I'm talking about the US. A marriage certificate by itself is not an expression of anyone's love. It's just benefits. You could choose to have those benefits or not. It's your choice. It has nothing to do with an expression of love because by itself it doesn't hold a marriage together. Some ppl still get divorced. Also, it has nothing to do with culture. I see wedding dresses having more to do with culture, but hardly anyone now follows those rules. A wedding dress doesn't even indicate what religion a person is in. Ppl just want to have a nice party with family and friends. It's important not to judge ppl based on how they got married or whether or not they hold a marriage certificate. It doesn't tell you what mindset they have. It tells you nothing about the person.
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This goes for any type of relationships, including intimate relationships. To me, he forgot to mention that a person could develop from a root to trunk. That's when a person is very independent, well-rounded, and is capable of solving many types of problems effectively for himself/herself and his/her loved ones, esp in very challenging times.
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If you never want that marriage certificate, that's fine. It's your choice. It's a good decision. But, just keep in mind that some ppl are married to each other not just for the sake of getting benefits. They do love each other, and their love runs deep. A marriage certificate isn't the thing that's holding them together. All in all, it's just a piece of paper. They don't fear that. There are always two sides to the same coin. Then, there are those who stay together for years without the certificate, only to breakup in the end for whatever reason. ----- When ppl hear of other ppl loving each other, they only have their own definitions of what that means. And so, ppl are on all sides when it comes to the definition of love, right? Why not? I think this clip explains love the best: It also works for the dating world and also for intimate relationships. Most ppl that you run into will only end up coming and going. If you truly want to find that root, then you got to develop yourself to that level to attract one. And, if you do find that root, then the both of you could develop even further and go from root to trunk. To me, he forgot to mention trunk. A trunk is a non-quitter who is well-rounded and could solve many problems easily. Trunks are extremely rare.
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Does "high consciousness" mean only pickup guys and a certain group of ppl? No. Because it's not restricted to a certain group. If it was, it would be far from being nuanced. I do recommend exploring different "groups" and different cultures / countries that are very different from what you know and learn from that first without getting involved. I also think you have to be careful here. How do you define "partner?" How do you define "dating?" Does dating to you involve casual sex? Because if you say yes, different gals feel differently about this. If they don't believe in that, it doesn't necessarily mean they are at stage blue or orange. You cannot judge ppl at what stage they're at just based on a few boundaries / values. Who is this person overall?
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You know what, when you say the term "high consciousness," you're talking about something that's not popular to most people in society. Even Leo said this sometimes. For example, what do you think of this clip: I posted this before. Most ppl, in your life, who you will come across, will not stay in your life or even keep in touch. Dating is like that too. They come and they go. All I'm saying is, be careful. If you really want to find a partner, make sure you know yourself, develop yourself, and love yourself first. Then, you'll be able to know who you want to be with.
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You know what, if you're even considering marrying someone, you got to really talk about it before it happens. Research. It's no joke. Even if you're a polyamorous, and you're thinking of marrying your primary partner, do you think they don't talk about these things? Of course they do. They do discuss about their other partners and whether or not they're going to swing in their actual relationships. Why would they not? The ppl who do not know themselves or what they want out of their actual relationship or what they want out of life, will not even bother to talk about it. They'll just go with the flow and accept whatever, only to end up leaving because they didn't know better and put the blame on someone else. Have you heard of prenuptial agreement? Some ppl consider that...
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Key Elements replied to whatishappeningtome's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's the Ox's tail. "What you got there is a glimpse of a few hairs of the Ox's tail..." said the Zen master to Leo. I bet you were referring to Shinzen Young.