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Some ppl don't want approval. They just want to be authentic and themselves, but that's not an easy thing to do, especially when the person wants to express the discovery of non-duality to "friends." So, therefore, one has to find healthy ways to do this, like expressing it in a life purpose. Even if it's done there, it has to be expressed in very tactful ways nowadays. Otherwise, the "wrong" message gets sent, or others misinterpret it.
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Yeah, but the way you were saying it, the thought that came to my mind is that I could not picture an enlightened master purposely putting himself in harms way just for the heck of it. It doesn't happen like that, and no one does that. It doesn't. That's your choice. Some ppl have an awakening automatically for whatever reason, and they don't even realize that it's an awakening. So they do nothing about it.
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No, he won't do this. He would avoid such situations all together. There's no lessons here. Why do this? An enlightened master is still a human being embodied in an ego. Of course, he'll try to escape like anyone else if he's endangered. Yes. You could also embody the wisdom (enlightenment experiences) into your life purpose. If you have an awakening, you will become aware first hand that everything is you. You could share this piece of info through your LP in a tactful way so that those who are ready to hear it will hear it. Why do this? Because you want to make peace in this world and reduce/end suffering as much as you can. By nature, we don't like to see suffering. During an awakening, there is just peace, no suffering. You want to reflect this in this life.
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The something that you are seeing right now, which is the world we're living in, isn't permanent. For example, no one stays in this world forever. So, we pass away one day and become "nothingness." But then, during our lifetime, some of us have this "awakening." That's when we see ourselves as "nothingness" becoming "somethingness" when we embody back into our ego (body) via singularity. And, we gain wisdom from that.
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What does the Mirror of Erised symbolizes for you in "real" life?
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@bejapuskas You're welcome.
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Look into entrepreneurship. Do a startup via website/YouTube channel/etc. And then, turn this into a life purpose using Spiral Dynamics and Maslow. It's like riding a bicycle. Practice and you'll get better at it. You will make mistakes. Just be careful when you do. You'll learn from it. Take mistakes as lessons. This is a great thing to do because you will have something to talk about if you do meet a yellow/turquoise person. If you don't, and you meet ppl who are blue/orange/green, and they're not open-minded, you could just tell them your occupation. That's it. The thing is, if you do find your life purpose, you will know your occupation because things will fall into place in your life. A life purpose could get very deep and profound if that's where you want to go. It's your choice. As an example, I like Shaolin monks as a group to look at. They cover the bottom of Maslow and also the top, and also Spiral Dynamics. They do kung fu. Everyone knows what kung fu is, and can relate to that. That's why they have it as a skill/business. They need that to survive. They probably only talk about non-duality to someone who is radically open-minded and ready to hear it. Otherwise, regular ppl who go to them are interested in the kung fu part or meditation, or doing kung fu in a meditative state.
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@bejapuskas I just had a thought that you could always check the yellow / turquoise threads. There are lists of ppl. Just pick someone you like. It's just that, let's say you went on a meditation retreat and met one of them. How are you going to get through to them so that they could have a moment with you? What are you going to say to them when they had the chance to say, 'hello' to you? Imagine that. Have you thought about how to go about your life purpose? If you go on a journey in discovering that, there are probably hints there in 'breaking the ice.'
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@bejapuskas What topics are you going to talk about if you meet such a person? How will you introduce yourself?
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Blue tried to convert Reds, but it didn't work out.
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Key Elements replied to kieranperez's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ok, interesting... I guess we all know someone like this who is close to us. For me, if I was in this situation, I wouldn't go and explain it, not even through a book. Maybe I'm incorrect in your father's case, but it seems unlikely that a person of this description would want to read such a book. I would just get a nice Christmas card or a blank Christmas card and attach it to some general gift, like good chocolates. On the card, I would write: 'Wishing you a Merry Christmas...and much happiness and success...Btw...I found my life path. These are the two diagrams that helped me to discover it...' Then, I would draw the Spiral Dynamics diagram and this diagram: pointed at stage orange. Then, I would continue writing on the card: 'Well, Dad, if you're curious to know where I'm at, here's my website (include website). If you want to know more about these diagrams, here are the books (include book names). However, I would just watch videos on YouTube first before reading those books. It's much easier to understand.' B-I triangle diagram -
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@bejapuskas I just want to add that if you find your LP and get it all online with a product (eg. an app or whatever), you don't ever have to speak about it--you know, to help those who are really lost. You just tell them your website/channel/etc or pass them your business card (only if they're interested) and that's it. It's up to them to look you up. They have a choice to listen or not.
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You don't have to worry about this part much. If you do a journal, and discovered what you like to do through it, would it be like someone else's? Never. We're all unique, so our uniqueness happens automatically.
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@Aquarius Some ppl just don't want to talk unless it's really necessary. They will just say bluntly, "get back to work," or something like that. It may sound rude, but that's how they are. I would say, just detach from them. If they don't want to talk, don't talk to them.
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Good question. Good topic. Ask yourself, how could I build a life purpose that is convincing to help others get on the path?
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We already have a thread where we answered this topic many times. Now it's just being repeated.
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These are actually good questions. It's actually interconnected. That's what I heard and make of it. You still have to live this life to your fullest. Help others learn to love and reduce suffering. Otherwise, why would it be here? You may get an awakening (enlightenment experience, experiencing the no-self), but you may not achieve nirvana by the end of your lifetime. Depending on your karma, you'll come back on earth again learning lessons until you get it right. You have a choice to take action and move forward. Ask yourself, which would you rather do if you had a choice--let go of your ego and experience the no-self (awakening)? Or, achieve nirvana upon your actual death because you reduced suffering on earth? I would take the latter. Ideally, one would want to experience both, but in most cases, the latter is the better choice. If you go for the latter, sometimes you'll have an awakening automatically because you've reduced your karma. It could work in many ways and in no particular order. Karma is incredibly profound and should be taken into consideration while going through life. Use your life purpose as a vehicle to move you forward, learn your lessons, and reduce suffering for others and eventually, the world.
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@Peace and Love Bottom line: this is how relationships actually work, whether or not you're polyamorous. That's the big picture. If a person can work out such thing in a polyamorous relationship, so be it. And, after a 'good relationship has been settled,' it's time to really focus on the life purpose. By then, you won't be thinking about relationships anymore.