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@CreamCat @Michael569 thanks!
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Well, it's not so easy for me to come up with a quote like that. Life itself is a concept. If I had to say something on my own, this is what I would come up with: Life is but a dream. Therefore, your calling is but a dream. You'll clearly see that everything is you and maya once you've had the deepest awakening. Since life is meant to be lived, the embodied ego makes peace with itself by finding its calling and impacting others to find their calling and to help awaken them. When it comes to LP, I like this quote better: Your 'calling?'
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One of the biggest thing that's missing here is taking the time to know the other person and being true to oneself. I bet most ppl don't like fake ppl. These hotgirls found their life purpose and are authentic to themselves: I know someone who married a man, and she's not even a hotgirl. Far from it! This means that the inside counts more.
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Some ppl, like Shinzen Young for example, have books written on awakening, one of them called, The Science of Enlightenment. He's also online, have a website, and gives lectures at universities. He also meets ppl for meditation practices. In other words, you could also write books (products), do websites, be on YouTube, etc., but in your own way. It's your LP.
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Key Elements replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@7:03 "We have a bag full of goodies, and we could go with hands outstretched...you may never speak about it, but your pores will. The pores of your skin. That's teaching..." - 10 Ox Herding Pics by Shinzen Young -
Key Elements replied to Galyna's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Galyna Just remember, ultimately, it's not you and others; it's just you. Others will never know what's going on in your life. They are not embodied as "you." Just because you walk a different path from them, does not mean you won't find the Truth or will not discover Truth or have already found Truth. -
Key Elements replied to Galyna's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Galyna If you find the Truth, go with this quote in a tactful way: Doing it in a life purpose is what I mean. If you say it straight forward and openly, that never works. -
Key Elements replied to Cameron's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The Truth will always be kept hidden no matter how you say it or how frequently you say it. -
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So that means there are men out there (and women too) who actually want a good, lasting relationship. They don't just want a random stranger out on the streets who they don't even know and have no topics of interest or something deep to talk about.
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I found this quote useful:
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Key Elements replied to Cameron's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura Leo, as I commented above, I would like to know why enlightened masters are saying that to you. There must be some reasons. I don't believe they're saying it just for the heck of it. I wish they help us to understand better in detail. -
Key Elements replied to Cameron's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Sounds like a counter-intuitive song... -
Key Elements replied to Cameron's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Detachment from the process and outcome is better than being obsessed and attached to them, including the outcome of nothingness. -
Key Elements replied to Cameron's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura At around 1:30:54, it's counter-intuitive to put yourself in the enlightened masters' shoes and be radically open to why they are saying that. For example, some of them had their nothingness awakening (Riding the Ox Backwards) when they were children. You can't induce that with a substance at that age. Then, for them, there are 'minor' awakenings afterwards throughout life, which are just as important as the nothingness awakening. They don't want to miss out on those because those can set them in the right directions in life. If you keep inducing this and that, you may just be skipping steps and missing out on the meaningful lessons. As you said in your blog, life is a school. I agree. In the actual school, we can't miss out on the lessons which set the foundations. You also have to factor in karma as you go along. It makes the spiritual path very complex. -
Ppl do matter, esp family and best friends, but most will not be able to relate to you if you develop beyond a certain point. Most can only relate to you when you say: I'm going to school/university, getting a career, retiring, and that's it. Beyond that, it will only be: favorite food, favorite sports, entertainment. That's about it. Here's where it gets woo-woo to most ppl, and I don't recommend talking about it: Most will not be able to relate to you when you try to find your life purpose (your calling). Using this as a vehicle. They will not understand how to incorporate your career into your life purpose and turning it into entrepreneurship, networking, making a product and marketing/selling, starting non-profits, becoming a philanthropist, and beyond that discovering that you're one with everything and expressing it in your life purpose.
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Thanks. ? Excellent topic, btw. Just wanted to share more thoughts... If you have a life purpose, you could say to the other person, "My website is all that I stand for so far; you may have a look if you want." Or, you don't even have to say anything. You could just reply, "Cool." They'll come to know you sooner or later. Looks like you only tell the authentic ppl who are interested in you. Thanks.
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Yup. Deliverance but shown through actions. That's why I emphasize on life purpose. If you plant a seed this way, the other person may choose to listen or not. You give them more freedom to choose. They could choose to listen to our "silent" noise or not, and there is always room for improvement on how we plant the seed. In the end of the 10 Ox Herding Pics, the Cloth Bag Monk never spoke much. Yet, everyone found out what he stood for.
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And, she never tried to force you. You will probably never meet her.
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@Shin No, I'm not talking about forcing someone to change. I'm especially not talking about violence. If they don't want to change at all, that's their choice. I'm talking about: how are you going to present yourself without speaking? If you present yourself well, it does have an impact. Heard of the saying: the pen is mightier than the sword? How about: your actions speak louder than your words? Heard of Harry Potter? Did you know that the author of Harry Potter was poor, with a child, divorced, and on welfare? Her ex lived in a different country and wanted nothing to do with her--no support. I heard that she started writing Harry Potter on napkins with a simple pen, and eventually, look what happened. She became very independent and influential through her stories. Her stories have profound lessons in them. This is probably my favourite: Now, we have a blank life purpose. We have tons of information to transform our life purpose into something influential. It's our choice to take steps to do this or not. Did you ever speak to the author of Harry Potter? No. Yet, you know what she stands for.
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That's a good answer Leo, but some ppl stay stuck in one place for life. They could come back and live five lifetimes and still won't get it. Then, what? It doesn't mean you give up. You gotta ask yourself, what's the most tactful thing you could do to help plant a seed in them so eventually they'll get it.
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@Charlotte Come on...it's too woo-woo for most ppl. Be more tactful in your life purpose so you'll be more convincing and earning well through it. This is something that I would even say directly at Leo.
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@Charlotte I noticed something, even when I engage in conversations here in the forum or any conversations anywhere--did you notice that it's not easy to improve or convince someone in whatever you're trying to say to them? When you present a new idea or a new fact, the other person may think it's 'bs.' It takes time to fully convince the other person because it takes time for the other person to fully convince themselves. You got to prove to yourself that it is true. That takes time. To do that, it takes life experience and an open mind. However, whatever it is that you're trying to express, you could express it in your life purpose, step-by-step, and in a very tactful manner. If anything triggers a debate, it doesn't really help. It doesn't change the other person.
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@Charlotte Many ppl want to stay within their comfort zone. They don't want to search for truths.