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Key Elements replied to Aakash's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Luckily, that did not happen to me when I was younger. Someone at my university approached me saying to join her retreat, being very friendly too -- not so sure what that was about. She didn't even explain, just that it is relaxing, and it will take you closer to "God." I made the decision to turn away because I thought that it wouldn't benefit me in any way, not career wise, not in making $ in my interests, or anything like that. Since you want to start schools, I would recommend that a person starts learning about stage orange entrepreneurship (of schools) and think about what is a green entrepreneurship, and go beyond that. Why do I say this? Because this friendship is interesting. The guy who became president forgot to understand that his friend takes into consideration becoming a philanthropist (after stage orange) -- which is the start of stage green. He did help his sister, who is a monk, and learned a lot from her. Maybe I'm wrong, but the president's friend may not have developed himself fully and spiritually yet. I have yet to see that in full bloom. -
Key Elements replied to Peace and Love's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Key Elements replied to Aakash's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Aakash you're welcome. -
Key Elements replied to Aakash's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What's your next step in the now? Narrow it down. You told me where you want to go. That's good. But, what NOW? Go with the now step by step. @Aakash I think you're a young guy. That's why you keep saying it. I know you know what to do. Just go with it. We only have the present moment. -
I found a very interesting diagram: If anyone would like to share some good insights into this, please do. If you could share some info that most ppl don't know, that would be great. Here's something interesting: bo·dhi·satt·va /ˌbōdiˈsätvə,-ˈsət-/ noun (in Mahayana Buddhism) a person who is able to reach nirvana but delays doing so out of compassion in order to save suffering beings. Question is: What do we do in life to achieve full "Buddhahood," peace, no-self? Maybe, perhaps, one way to do it is to realize that we are everything and reduce suffering (through life purpose or something), and also just "Be" while going through the process.
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Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Aakash does your actions (in your life purpose or wherever) set off the correct ripple effects? Do others go in the right direction in knowing who they really are? Or, do they get more lost? -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Aakash I understand that there are so many threads. It's like finding a needle in a haystack, but some cool stuff from others are here. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
As the what? As a "chess piece?" Well, you could check out the life purpose section of the forum. Some of us, including myself, have expressed our plans on our course of action there. Of course, when you take action, be willing to adjust, transform, and detach. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Chess is only a game. It's a war game. While you are in your body in this life, ask yourself, what kind of game do you want to play in this life? What would lead life itself into that "empty space?" Are you playing the right game? Sometimes you got to try to ask the right questions. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Simply put: we are interested in you becoming and being the "empty space." You may think that the queen & king of chess are the most powerful pieces of the game, but no, it's the chess board. All the other pieces represent the transformations. They are temporary. Another thing: you're also that "invisible hand" that moves the chess pieces. Again, this is only a transformation. The real "You" is the chess board. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What was your question? Please make it simple. If you say that there is no path, why should the question be so elaborated and complicated? -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@FoxFoxFox no, I wasn't thinking about my room or the walls or any material things. I'm asking, "Where should I go to work and make a living?" I posted it here already. This woman had no choice. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Amun you're welcome. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Aakash Same reply for you. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@FoxFoxFox Simple question: Should I just sit here in my room? Well...what now? I get what you're saying, but we're going into more and more definitions. It's going to get too complicated. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ok. I get what you're saying here, but what are we going to do while we're embodied and living here on earth? It makes sense to me to do bodhisattva in some way, even though all is an illusion because enlightenment literally means no longer suffering/ no suffering and complete peace -- no matter what happens. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Sure, it's just not so easy to do bodhisattva with no-mind and joy. The bodhisattva may not be aware of how to reach the no-mind state. When is it appropriate to do no-mind, and when is it appropriate to show other emotions while doing bodhisattva? That can be challenging. The person who is in buddhahood may have already mastered their emotions. That's probably the difference. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I agree here. That's why I mentioned in this thread that the map is not the territory. Let's explore. But, you know, the spiritual path does involve bodhisattva in some way. What do you think? It's just that sometimes it's not so easy to have a no-mind in the situation. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Aakash When Ken Wilbur was describing it to her, he sounded like he was metaphorically speaking of an enlightenment. There is the nothingness phase, the everythingness phase, and the void phase. Instead of going through something, like the void, and thinking of it as a phase, the nothingness and you are already the same. Even the transformation is an illusion. It's good to know what is the transformation so you know where you came from, but you are already it. In other words, you're always that Space = Nothingness, and things are transforming within that space. But, if you happen to catch hold of a temporary embodiment, it sucks. You rather be the space. Temporary things are meant to be released, let go of, detached. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Aakash Well, you know, it's just a state of mind and a phase that the Bodhisattva has to go through before she reaches the no-mind state in this life. It takes practice. It doesn't necessarily mean the person will actually go to, you know where. Probably not...especially if she's a Bodhisattva. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes, correct. I was referring to living on earth and being embodied. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Aakash Very good! Correct! I heard that too somewhere. I think maybe twice. You could also choose to reincarnate by free will and make tremendous sacrifice in that lifetime for others to help them finally realize. -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thanks for all the replies. I read them all. For those of you who addressed me, when I looked at the diagram, I saw the four final phases like Spiral Dynamics: Learning + Realization + Bodhisattva + Buddhahood = Nirvana When I saw Realization, that could include an awakening (enlightenment). (I'm just letting you know ahead of time that this is just a guide. The map is not the territory.) Nirvana is after the person passes away, he/she is not coming back to earth. The person will not reincarnate back on earth or anywhere-- Because, this person has learned all the lessons in life and fulfilled his/her mission in life (whatever that is). Just to let you know, yes, life is an illusion, but it's also a school, even Leo said it in his blog somewhere. Two examples: The Cloth Bag Monk and Buddha. Both were Bodhisattvas in their lives. They did help suffering ppl through teaching and other stuff. The difference between a person who is a just a Bodhisattva and a person who has reached full Buddhahood is the realization of no-self (that everything in life is you and temporary). The Cloth Bag Monk -
Key Elements replied to Key Elements's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What you said here reminds me of this story: According to this clip, to me, she's an example of a bodhisattva. The children that she helped could grow up and help others in some way to help reduce suffering -- ripple effect. However, it seems to me like what's missing in her life is, she may not have realized the no-self (everything is one) since she's not teaching it in some way.