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I already said in this thread that I'm not going to take psychedelics. I did not take anything to get this experience. That's my decision. I said the reason why. Yes, for me, it has gone deeper than this. I said it briefly in this thread. I will go into further details in my life purpose. It'll take too long to explain it here.

Ok, here's what it is. I will try my best to describe it briefly to the best of my knowledge. If you have the deepest awakening, it will go something like this: You become God/No-self. You're not embodied. There is no external environment. That's why they call God, "no self." You're just being pure, unconditional consciousness. This is the eternal YOU. No beginning. No end. You make this transformation into Everythingness. You might see yourself forming and coming together into something like infinite spherical stars (strangloop), but these stars are actually infinite universes. They're all you. You'll not only see it; you're all of it. The everythingness (YOU) comes together into this super massive, infinite black hole (aka, white hole). Yes, there is an event horizon before this. So, yes, there is a "freeze" before you make this transformation. Why do they call it a white hole? Because the Everythingness is "white" and came together and get transformed into a white void, where you're facing backwards (aka, Riding the Ox Backwards, singularity, Godhead, God's arrow). Finally, you embody into your ego, while the world/universe is created by YOU. You will remember all this from your ego's perspective. Initially, you might think this is grandiose, but it's not. When you were God making these transformations, it was totally "normal." You were just being. Most importantly, when you embody into your ego, you feel this massive love, indicating that you're in the "to love" realm. I could go further into details but too long. Everything in our lives is based on this awakening. Principles of life such as: Nothing is permanent. Everything transforms. Nothing dies. There is only transformations. Everything in the world is based on love. So, find a deep calling based on love. Everything is just you, so be kind in general. Learn to be detached in life. Work on yourself and your calling--because only you exist in the present moment. The list goes on and on.

Shinzen Young was saying, somewhere in the middle of the clip, that "the Source created a wormhole." The Source is Shinzen Young's way of describing God (meaning, you, the infinite consciousness). The wormhole represents Riding the Ox Backwards. It's this transformation back into your ego from God.

Are you asking, how do you have a sudden awakening (Kensho)? It depends on your situation. In my case, it happened in my childhood around the time when there was a war outside of our home. We were hiding. Like I said, I have to explain all this in my life purpose because the story adds up. It's profoundly meaningful and one thing leads to another. Because of this experience, I don't encourage inducing it with a strong method, like psychedelics. In my case, if I did psychedelics, I suspect that my path will lose meaning. Well, it's your choice. I don't go around telling ppl what to do. I just think that if you do things out of love, it can induce awakening. But, that love better be deep and genuine. Since I was a child, I didn't even know that was an awakening. There were other profound indications that pointed to it.

@Aakash tell me something. Did you experience the deepest awakening? Because you're giving me tips that are not aligned with my path (after the deepest awakening).

God's Arrow by Shinzen Young Love by Shinzen Young @Leo Gura the both of you said the same points in different ways.

I don't understand what you mean by "upgrade my metaknowledge." A metaknowledge, such as an awakening, is already there--permanently. You can't alter it. So, no, I cannot alter my awakening. It's already the deepest awakening. That's how I know that Riding the Ox Backwards, Singularity, God's Arrow, and Godhead all mean the same thing. I did not read this from a book and know about it. You cannot understand these things from a book. It has to be based on your own direct experience. When it was said, I knew what they were talking about. In fact, I think I'm the only one who mentioned these four terms here.

My favorite traps video. He is very grounded.

What new structures? I agree with you when you said direct experience. If you're teaching because you developed new structures from other teachers, that's a belief. If you're teaching because you're drawing from your direct experience, then that's authentic. A teacher can only teach you to be more articulate. For example, Shinzen Young calls the transformation from God/No-self: Riding the Ox Backwards and God's arrow. Look up God's arrow under his name. That's why I think Shinzen Young knows Truth because he described the transformation from God as God's arrow. Leo, on the other hand calls it singularity or Godhead. Anyway, that transformation will take you back to your ego, and your ego will be bombarded with this massive love, indicating that you're on earth, the to love realm. The description of my whole story, I have to find a way to speak of it in my LP.

That's a really good point, but a good doctor doesn't go out of balance and ruin the health. I've decided to go into my life purpose with the discussion of self-transendence said sparingly and tactfully at the top of Maslow's. The rest of my LP will be teaching a skill (in a fun, creative, mindful way) because that's a basic need--more toward the base of Maslow's. Show, instead of telling. What I don't want to do is turn my Maslow (LP) upside down and focus solely or over emphasize on Truth and Love. It gets obsessive. And, there is this saying, "Truth isn't told; it's realized." The words "truth" and "love" are just words. You could say it a million times in a million different ways, and ppl still won't get it. They could just be coming back for more good words. Shinzen Young's master, who is senior to him, told Shinzen Young not to keep coming back and asking him and be dependent on him.

@Leo Gura ok, but I never asked my bro to come into my life again like that and tell me non-verbally. That is more convincing than someone of this realm giving me a key. My point to this example is, you don't know how deep the rabbit hole went for other enlightened masters.

Yeah, but you were telling us that there are no brains; it's all maya and one with God, blah, blah, blah, and yet you trust neurotransmitters. Anyway, no substances will be able to induce an experience like the movie, Interstellar. It is possible for a deceased loved one to come to you and tell you that you've already had an awakening in a non-verbal manner. Then, you find out later on because of profound clues. To me, this is more convincing. Anyway, the bottom line is, I doubt that you know exactly what Young and Ralston actually experienced, unless you trust and know them well, and they told you straight in the face. To me, Young understands both love and truth. He calls truth no-self. That's it. It's the same as God. He doesn't try to go into a full two hour episode trying to describe it.

Leo, I'm curious to know, how will this help you? Especially what you said on the last paragraph. If the consciousness is so "radical," how will this help? Does this mean, for instance, that you won't be reincarnated? Or, what? Did it make you less needy? Did it tell you something more about life? Most of all, in one of your blog videos, you were saying that Shinzen Young's and Peter Ralston's enlightenment isn't that deep? Did they tell you exactly? No? Well, how deep do you want it? Don't they all point to the same thing after a certain point? Any form of "everythingness" that you see in your trips is still everythingness. To me, you don't know how deep are their enlightenment. Shinzen Young might be using a metaphor, like "Riding the Ox Backwards" to sum up the whole thing. It's just to communicate to his audience. Ralston might be doing the same thing. Another thing that Shinzen Young said was, "Enlightenment is a many faceted jewel. Today's enlightenment is tomorrow's mistake." This sounds like another metaphor. He must've had very profound awakenings. In the second sentence of this quote, it sounds like what he is saying is, even after the deepest awakening, which is "Riding the Ox Backwards," you still have to live life to the fullest and reach milestones in order to go deeper and for more genuine awakenings to occur.

If you hear a term such as "Riding the Ox Backwards," are you able to relate to it by your experience? Did something happen to you, and then this term made complete sense to you? If not, if you can't refer to it according to your genuine experience, then it's just a belief.

This thread has gotten off topic.

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@Natasha you're welcome ??✌️

Yeah, but you didn't say that they can't be used as many times as possible.

Wait, you did not say that. You weren't that specific.

@DrewNows labor of love? It goes beyond that. That's why I called it an asexual YOU type of God Leader birth. ? This is reminding me of Zeus giving birth to Athena, Goddess of Wisdom. This birth was asexual. She came out of his head. Looks like wisdom symbolizes asexual births. Just look around for high conscious inventions. Is Athena symbolic of enlightenment? Because enlightenment is definitely wisdom. So, I think Athena is symbolic of enlightenment. And, LP doesn't have to be stuck at stage orange, meaningless, stuck, achievist mindset only and stressful. I don't consider stuck stage orange businesses to be LP. Yup, it's the "best version of yourself," inclusive of all the best features.

I agree with what you said on the other points. I just want to say that with a life purpose, it is YOU. It's like giving birth to you, like asexual reproduction. ? (Ok, I sound a little weird here.) It's totally YOU, but you could incorporate your career, interests, hobbies, passions, entrepreneurship, non-duality etc, in it. You are giving birth to something profound like that. God is giving birth to something, a leader, that will make this matrix (dream) a more peaceful place to live in.

@DrewNows totally. I really like that clip of Ralph. I used to listen to it several times, and now, when I listen to it again, it sounds even more beautiful. He said around 14:20, "If you try to fit in, you'll just be another brick in the wall." This definitely fits into non-duality. Each path in this life is totally unique with so many factors. I bet a person already has some clues within as to what to do and in which direction to go. I seriously think finding a well thought out, high conscious LP is a big step.

@DrewNows those are excellent sayings that you posted. Let me add, it's like riding a bike. You could give someone tips on how to ride better, but you can't do it for them. And, those tips might not even be helpful. Everyone has a different way of learning to ride a bike. However, with enlightenment and non-duality and all that, it is the most profound. It can't even be compared to riding a bike. Everyone is unique and there are too many factors. It doesn't make any sense to me that some ppl just embrace one method just because someone said so. I think sometimes it just happens because you completed whatever you need to do in life, or whatever. Like I said, there are just too many factors, and yes, there is such thing as a person's karma that could contribute to it or not contribute to it. Ralph just calls it, "what goes around comes around."