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@Leo Gura Leo, I like what you said here. Paradigm shifts on a mass scale isn't easy at all. This reminds me of when I was watching your enlightenment clips, and on one of them you mentioned, "ox's tail," ever so briefly, and I had an "ah ha" moment to look it up and researched it. Then, I noticed a big "ah ha" moment when I found out about "riding the ox backwards" and how I was passing that off as a dream. The clips are so watered down to fit the mainstream. After a person makes paradigm shifts on any area in life, it's so hard to talk about it with anyone because the person is so misunderstood. I'm sure others in here are experiencing this in your forum. It makes me think twice on how to do my startup. Graves model was another "ah ha" moment for me. Two other clips where you use the word cockamamie also were "ah ha" moments for me. I hope you make clips with more "ah ha" moments, but I wish they were not so watered down.
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Be careful next time. There's a saying: "The reason why so many financial advisers are called brokers is because they are often broker than you." -Robert Kiyosaki And, they'll put money in their pockets for their own benefit. I recommend reading, Guide to Investing by Robert Kiyosaki so you could build your own business online or think of a creative way to invest. It's the best book I've read and an easy read. I read it twice.
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To me, Leo is very bold to speak out about enlightenment, especially this week's video, "The Benefits of Being Enlightened." It isn't always easy to do because of the audience, but one just has to learn and move on without ego . Below are some more helpful tips from the two other Spiritual/self-help teachers. This is if you're interested in making Spirituality as your startup or part of your startup.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Well, I also wish the same thing, but hey, it's worth the effort because the person improves by leaps and bounds trying this way - actions + unconditional love + peace of mind (no-ego) + paradigm shifts. I understand it's different for everyone. The life purpose that comes along is well worth the effort. It takes time...maybe a lifetime. (btw, it shouldn't.) To me, it's worth it because life is just a glimpse - blink once and an entire life passes. We have this one life...why not?
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By your actions...Esp your loved ones...when they see that you've discovered your life purpose or on your way, they start taking you very seriously - they try to understand you - more communication - and in turn, they change (for the better). What I just said, may not work for everyone, perhaps, but it's sure worth the try.
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@Leo Gura How do you define a "3rd World?" Many people living in a "3rd World" are living at Orange stage and just down their street there is a five-star hotel - very lavish. Yes, I agree with getting rid of ego as much as possible and education reform - at a certain point develop a person's talent with their passion instead of just what is marketable. Change the world through your life purpose after getting rid of the ego.
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@FocusOnTruth Ok. I get what you're saying. To me, his enlightenment clips are very basic. There's a lot more than that. But, I like it cause it's easy to understand - I no longer have to pass off my enlightenment experiences as dreams thanks to Leo. The no-ego = meaning peace without any human emotions other than peace is hard to understand without enlightenment experiences or studying enlightenment. As for his other concepts on relationships (co-dependent, independent, interdependent), Maslow & Graves model, and being post-rational, these things will probably fall into place for someone with a lot of life experiences. It did for me cause I immigrated to India from the US, and also cause I'm a startup. If I looked at Leo's clips a few years ago, most of it wouldn't have made sense to me.
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What do you mean by "group think?" Here's what I thought when I read this. I use what Leo says as a guide, not as ultimate. Leo, like the rest of us, is a map, not the territory. In many areas, he's a great map, but I had to adjust it to my territory. Also, just because a person lives or works in a group, doesn't mean the person cannot think for himself or herself. We will always be in a group, no matter what. One example: as long as we're humans and embodied, we will always have a relationship with earth - we can't destroy it and do whatever we want with it.
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Key Elements replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Leo Gura Just thought of something while looking at this pic. Can someone who is legally blind who is having an enlightenment experience see his or her own body and everything else around? From what I know, the answer is yes. (Also, depends on where the person is during enlightenment.) -
@Nomad That's exactly what I mean - to transend and include healthy stage blue values and not push one's value onto others. This is the reason lots of ppl don't talk about their core values - lots of disagreements on what your core values "should" be in stage orange, but your core values are your core values. Don't let your boundaries go, otherwise you can't focus on your life purpose. I'm talking about healthy boundaries, not unhealthy boundaries. I can't tell someone what they can and cannot do, or what core values to choose. Note: I'm speaking based on my experiences in real life. I'm posting because I do feel for shouldnt - a lot. I want the best for her and everyone else. That's why I can't tell her and others what boundaries to set and what decisions to make. I could only tell her what I've experienced and she could decide whether or not to adjust and use it according to her life journey. Got it?
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@shouldnt Your dreams could start here and now, this very minute, as long as you notice what you pick up in your hands. Are you picking up your "notebook" (the tool that I've mentioned) to work on & enjoy or doing something else instead? Your dream life is a process, never the end result. The end result (like money) is only 2 sec of happiness. The real happiness is the process. Another thing..I'm glad that nomad mentioned the Graves model. I'm a fan of it. Remember, each stage has to be transended and not abandoned. Leo even said this. Stage blue is an important stage, even though it's fundamental. Some values of stage blue has to be taken into consideration to rebel against stage orange and move onto stage green. We can't live without boundaries otherwise we'll be stuck at stage orange. All of my friends when I was growing up were stage green, but I couldn't share everything with them, so I had to move on. The great part about stage orange is the startup. I recommend reading Guide to Investing by Robert Kiyosaki to work on your life purpose.
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@Kelley White This is a great video. Thanks for sharing. I have seen it before. I like the part when she said that we all need to be allowed to be honest - that includes everyone, no matter who you are. Let me just share with you a part of my work involves teaching children. From very young, children are labelled. For example, if a child decides to share his/her travels abroad to X, Y, or Z countries, the child is labeled as "showing off." If a child just stays home throughout summer, the other kids tease him/her. I always like to think that we shouldn't label anyone and everyone is just another human being after all and should be put on the same plain. I allow the children who travel to share openly and honestly. Nothing is wrong with that. It is awesome. I tell the children who stay home that there are lots of activities and games to play over the summer - that the whole apartment or house could be converted into a hide & seek birthday party. There are always 2 different ways of looking at things - why do we need to label and hide everything?
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@shouldnt Sorry to hear this, really - but don't worry. It's only a glitch on the TV screen (the Matrix). This forum is also a Matrix. It can be used as a tool only for learning. It doesn't even give you real life experiences which is priceless. Have you tried journaling on an empty notebook? For me, it only started off as one sentence. Then, it became a few paragraphs. Then, it became a book. Then, I went to an IP lawyer I found during networking to get it copyrighted. Then, it became my career & life purpose & so on. Ok, don't look at the big pic. This is only my story... Just start with an empty notebook and start with the "now" today. Then, take baby steps, but do focus on the now and enjoy. If you don't like notebooks, there are other tools, like the notepad on your mobile.
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You will find them along your journey when you work on your life purpose and beyond.
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I want to share my experiences. I can understand seeing a psychologist or a psychiatrist for disorders to mental illnesses (such as bipolar and schizophrenia). If counciling is needed without meds because some trauma happened, that's fine too. These things can't be controlled alone if it's serious - the right meds or medication are needed. However, psychologists can't give you life experiences. They can't figure out your life purpose or Hero's Journey for you. That's a whole new level. Unless, they are very advanced, they can't tell you that your enlightenment experiences are not just dreams, or if you travelled to a new place and tell them about it, they probably will not understand it and may give you the wrong advice - unless they have been there themselves.
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@Saitama I wish there was some way of seeing a direct truth to this or get close to it. Well, I could tell you that when I do make friends in real life who I trust or run into different people in different places, they do tell me stuff and I learned a lot from them - sharing experiences from people different from you - Leo mentioned this a few times in his clips. Also, I don't believe the women or even the men would tell the whole truth on this subject matter. It's too personal. A lot of details are missing. It's something to tell good friends/family or someone outside the group. That's why I use the word "anonymous" survey. My reason behind taking the anonymous survey and trying to make friends different from you (and be radically open minded about it) is because the reason for being rejected has to be a lot deeper than thinking the guy is "creepy" or "jerk" or whatever. One simple reason may be due to not wanting to be with a complete stranger.
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@Saitama I'm not trying to get at anything. I'm only wondering what are they thinking. It will be great if we all knew. It's not just for you approaching the women; it's for everyone else. I remember when I took a psychology class, a teacher's assistant was conducting an anonymous survey of some kind to get her degree. Then, I thought, it would be great if an anonymous survey is conducted on this topic of approaching women and seduction to see what the women are thinking after being approached. Of course, where you approach and how you approach has to be taken into consideration. I believe this would be a good study to see.
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@Saitama Ok, that's fine. Here's another question that came into my mind: I wonder what the girls are thinking when you approached them and talked to them? We really don't know what they're thinking. If we knew exactly what they're thinking, we probably learn a lot from that.
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@Saitama Goal = what are you trying to accomplish? Are you trying to get a girl to have a relationship with? Is getting a maths degree part of your life purpose (life's calling)? From my experience, if I want to accomplish something, I have to keep going at it till I've reached a point. Then, I decide where to go next. Success is a lifelong process. I'm just speaking from my experience.
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I have a question, and it's nothing but a question: what is your goal? Because in another post I saw that you are thinking of pursuing a math PhD. Careers/life's calling takes a lot of time to pursue and inner work. Having a good relationship also takes an enormous amount of time and sacrifice once you're in it.
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Here is another strategic thinking clip & channel which compliments Leo's most recent clip on Strategic Thinking. (I love the art.)
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@shouldnt Thanks...habit 3...very interesting.
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It did pop into my mind, what if Leo joined in this group of beautiful ppl? Well...my point is...if we all actualized, I would say, according to what they're saying, communication and being fearless are important here. Ok...Teal was saying it. Now I'm going to post a clip below in which Ralph is saying it. We will probably have to deal with all kinds of ppl when we're actualized with our life purpose. It's like taking a class, Fame 101. We probably have to stay focused on our work instead of answering questions not related to what we're doing.
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These are all shortcuts, isn't it? We can't achieve across the board. Leo even said this in his most recent clip, How to Stop Comparing Yourself to Others. One can't find his/her life's calling (life purpose) with all these distractions. Friends? Real friends know who you are and what you want out of life. They don't try to distract you.