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Yes! This is a must, I really hope that it happens. Not to mention, it would give his audience an exposure to your YT channel, a win-win

While war can land on any president's term at any moment, there are different probabilities to it. While 4 years is a small sample size, it still says something in the limited amount of information that we have. Trump is a negotiator and while he was seen as Russia's agent (failed Russia gate), this is one of the factors that could have prevented the war from happening. Why do you take Trump's rhetoric of being a dictator for a day so seriously but other rhetoric of his you just dismiss as lies? You really can't have it both ways. Also, knowing you - if the roles were reversed and wars would have happened under Trump's presidency, you would be saying the exact opposite. Putin has proven time and time again that you cannot trust anything that comes out of his mouth. Did you forget when before the invasion he was asked if he was going to attack Ukraine and he kept denying this for months? I find it hilarious that you actually believe Putin's narrative - perhaps if you actually followed Russian politics and knew Russian language, you would know that it's a load of BS.

I am not saying that was the only reason that he didn't invade Ukraine, but the fact is he didn't. 4 years of sample size is more than good enough, given that the US presidential term is only 4 years, and we need to go off something. The idea that he was trying to come to some diplomatic arrangement is pure speculation on your part, we don't know this for sure. You need to give the credit where it's due - while Trump was president there was no wars.

@Leo Gura @aurum How come Putin did not invade Ukraine while Trump was president, but invaded it under Obama (Crimea) and under Biden? We have 4 years of sample size of Trump presidency, but for some reason you guys tend to ignore this and come up with your abstract theories Also, Trump is more likely to finish the war and have them make peace, rather than have the war prolonged with more lost lives and more American tax dollars going to the war.

As in comparison to Kamala Harris LOL? Kamala Harris would be perceived as a joke by Putin, who are you kidding?

Respect in this context means not to be perceived as someone who he can easily run over, someone who can be unpredictable and can take bold action if needed. For someone like Putin, it is actually easier to deal with Biden's administration than Trump's - because you actually never know what you can get with Trump, it may backfire at any point.

That's not what he said - he meant for dealing with ruthless leaders like Putin you need a guy who Putin will respect and will not perceive as weak. Not everything comes down to childhood trauma as you think - sometimes things are way more simple than that.

If this is what you guys think is true vulnerability and admittance of wrong - you are beyond lost and cannot be helped. And I am not the first nor the last to point this out. Not to mention that this is a man who claims to have reached the highest levels of consciousness in human history. I am not the first, nor the last person to point this out - just see what the ex mods and ex high level priests of this forum have said.

At first I gave you the benefit of the doubt, but now I went and watched the 2nd half of the video. You didn't actually say what you were wrong about in particular. And at the end you still justified it and said the mistakes that you made led you to reach "god levels of consciousness", and sobbed a bit over that. Where do you see true vulnerability and regret in that? Another thing that I noticed, is that you made the video about YOURSELF. (how you reached this and that, yada yada) A true admittance of wrong, is when you actually admit that you were wrong and apologize to the person/group directly, without any excuses, justifications, and you don't make it about yourself. I have yet to see this from you, anywhere - weather on a video or a forum. You say that you are far from being a narcissist, but if you studied this domain enough, you would know that there is many forms of it (not all look like Trump). It's beyond astounding to see that someone who has been doing this "work" for over 10 years displays so much ego, arrogance, and a lack of humility.

Have you not promoted the same "leftist dogma" for years on this forum? I meant admitting you are wrong on a personal level - not making a video breaking down psychology of it, or broadly talking about how you may have been wrong in the past. There is clear difference in those two - as one requires actual display of vulnerability, which you never show. You call Trump a narcissist (which you are correct to do), yet you are in deep denial of your own narcissism on clear display. No wonder you hate Trump so much (as a character alone on subconscious level, not taking into account his ideas/beliefs,etc), he is your clear shadow.

Do you consider all of your responses to be of "high quality"? When someone actually has a constructive position, and bothers to put in the effort to do research and bring historical examples, you shortly respond with the following: -You are too brainwashed to understand me - You are too biased to understand me -You are too low of consciousness (if it comes to spirituality) to understand me And at the same time you always act like the smartest person to ever live, all knowing, and you never admit that you are wrong.

I had no idea that they shredded all the documents in 1953, thank you for sharing all of this

I cannot believe that LEO is actually denying these obvious things, that are right on the surface. My guess is people don't want to admit these things to themselves, as deep down it would show the damage that was done in the name of secularism, progressivism, freedom, democracy.

The standards should be equally applied equally, regardless of your political position/take. What I see, is for example people who are Anti-MAGA get a pass, just because they have the "right" take, while a lot of the times still posting something of low quality that just repeats same old mantra, without any substance. It would also be helpful if you could provide some characteristics of what you consider to be a "high quality" take. I consider a high quality take to be a constructive argument, a political position that is well though out without emotional attachment. Sometimes a high quality take, can also be a constructive question, which leads to a higher quality of an answer from a person involved in a discussion. For our example, just calling Trump a "devil" and not actually bring examples of policies, and what he has done in 4 years that was damaging would be a low quality take imo. This type of rhetoric is also dangerous, as it creates an echo chamber and people just repeat like parrots, without thinking for themselves. This in turn destroys their critical thinking, even if they have the "right" takes so to speak. Most importantly, is that it would be in the best interests of this forum if the owner/mods would be neutral, and not show their biases towards a particular political side/position/candidate. This would encourage critical thinking, and not create echo chamber as it is happening now.

You really have no argument. All you are saying is - intelligent people don't like Trump and if you are not seeing why he is evil, then you can't be helped. I can use the same argument against you - and can find intelligent people who support Trump and don't like Biden. Why do you think that you are smarter than people who hold a political position different from you? So far, you could not state a single devilish thing that Trump has done in his 4 years of presidency. You became a parrot for Leo and for Mods. People like you actually scare me on both sides - when you lose to critically think and become the parrot npc is quite scary.

@Leo Gura @Joshe Destiny is defending the bombing of Hiroshima and Negasaki, while Elon is trying to point to him some common sense right here on their 2 hour debate: Where is your intelligence now, in seeing Destiny for who he really is? Hilarious how you guys love to put labels on Trump, yet are totally blind to people who are actual psychopaths on your side

Maybe Biden should of been smarter and invited him - this is a natural reaction that anyone would have really. You would be hurt too to some extent, all of us would be.

At least Musk is not a psychopath and is against the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, unlike some of the psychopaths who you don't mind like Destiny

Read your last 3 exchanges with me - you are repeating yourself over and over again like a crazy person who has been deeply indoctrinated with propaganda. In a nutshell, this is your argument - Trump is a devil, very bad guy and if you can't see it - you are just too stupid. Yet when I ask you to specifically point to bad/devilish things that he has done in his 4 years of presidency, you cannot list a single thing? What I understood, is both sides (MAGA and anti-MAGA) are 2 sides of the same coin - both who totally lack critical thinking and are brainwashed.

Here is a good example of someone who really thought things through and presented a solid position, with examples as to what made they vote for a particular candidate and their evolution. Instead of childish name calling and labeling, this person presents a constructive arguments with explanations that would benefit and advance the discussion. It's very surprising that on this forum this is not actually encouraged. You don't have to agree with her arguments, but at least it's constructive and benefits the conversation: https://x.com/wildbarestepf/status/1812590490916925626

All you are doing is placing labels and name-calling. How about actually having a constructive position/argument that can actually benefit the discussion and even help people see your point of view clearer? List the develish things or policies that he has done in his 4 years of presidency. What were the worse things in your opinion?

Sorry, this was clearly the wrong word to use. I should have used a different word other than "brainwashed", because I did not mean brainwashed in a classical sense. Let's use the word blind instead. Any one of us can be blind on any particular thing, while not be blind in general (as in classic sense with a cult). I was trying to say that the sources from which these people get information from and feeds certain narratives played the role in the forming of the biases that cloud their vision- not actualized forum itself, because this is a place where we discuss things and I seen people share different points of views. Also, don't forget that I mentioned that the same goes for Trump supporters, who cannot list any good things that Biden has done. If brainwashed is not the right word, then being blind due to being clouded by super bias is. This applies to both sides of the spectrum.

You keep using the word "devil" as Leo does, and Leo also keeps saying that he is biased towards the truth, and you are saying you are not parroting him? Trump has already been a president for 4 years. Why don't you mention the actual things that he did during his presidency that makes him a devil? I am talking about actual policies and actions - not some pseudo stuff. You are not the only one that thinks you are biased towards truth - there are many people who think that they do, but in actuality is that really the case? If you (or anyone) that is not not able to find good things that Trump has done during his presidency (same as for Biden) means that you are brainwashed, is it that hard to understand?

As Leo has taught you, the notions of good and evil are very relative. Some of those that hate Biden also view him as evil, you see? I doubt you actually watched Owen's videos, because there he goes quite deep on the culture war and individualism vs collectivism and how it's related to what has happened over the last years or so. Instead of parroting Leo as you did with the last sentence, actually try to view things objectively without attachment. It's very easy to place labels of "good", "evil", etc, but actual critical thinking requires a lot of energy. What I love about Owen, is that he as a teacher and also in these videos states that he doesn't care weather you are team red/blue hate/love trump, etc. He sees balance in both collectivism, individualism and has friends that are both on the left and the right. If you cannot find at least few good things in any individual (not just Trump, Biden, etc), it means you are clearly biased and are probably brainwashed if it comes to politics. This applies to both sides.

@Leo Gura I find Owen's take to be a lot more deep, balanced and objective than yours on this one. I doubt that you watched his videos, because in them he actually does state that Trump has all hallmarks of NPD and he is no saint, etc. Not to mention that he has a lot of connections with people who have high positions in the government (his claim) and he also networks in their circles. Why don't you actually watch this and tell us what you think? This one was released few hours ago.