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That holds for all experience across the board, the only difference is some experiences are more accessible than others. What does it mean to win the lottery? In the unlikely event I manage to replicate the victory itself, emotionally and practically it could still mean something entirely different to me than it did to you. Maybe people say this because they're arrogant and confused, but cannot admit it to others, much less themselves, so they play a rhetorical trick. But maybe it actually is impossible to communicate, and/or they genuinely want you to experience it for yourself, not adopt their beliefs or deny them to validate your own. We're right back at interpretation.

Any and all conditions are rendered by consciousness using intelligence, so it's only natural that it should survive them. Humongous degree of intelligence goes into creating the appearance of lack of intelligence. Being totally wrong on every single issue all the time especially requires infinite intelligence, just in the opposite direction. Absolute self-deception, as it were. Complete absence of intelligence is achieved through being totally wrong about presence of intelligence. Being is intelligence. You already implicitly recognize this. If consciousness is existence/being, and can't be separated from intelligence, what does this say about intelligence? Even the most delusional beliefs are undeniable, precisely because they exist. "- It would be an accursed monster — a being that should have never been born in the first place. - But if he is already in this world, no one has the right to deny him his instincts." The entire spiritual endeavor is a merger of epistemology with ontology so thorough that knowing and being become fully identical, which includes the realization that they always have been.

Not necessarily. Oftentimes people that are not particularly intelligent in a traditional sense are better at intuitively knowing that you "shouldn't", for instance, harm others, despite having no logical ground nor a capacity to clearly articulate why. They can simply act selflessly on autopilot. Of course it's equally as common if not more so for them to be selfish as shit. Can be framed in the exact opposite way, deep sleep is basically being unconscious. Existence existing by definition is a logical tautology, but equating consciousness to existence is a leap in reasoning that may or may not be true. Understanding logic and its validity requires intelligence, however its limitations are grasped through consciousness. Yes, although someone conscious of that may not be conscious that they're employing intelligence. Further, they can use intelligence to dismiss the role of intelligence/logic and construct a paradigm where consciousness is more fundamental; a commonplace fallacy within spirituality. What's the difference between being and doing? 'Just being empty' is the only way it has or ever will be, and it takes infinite intelligence (and love/selflessness) to structure reality that way, which is a doing of a sort. You might say Consciousness governs Sameness, Unity, Love; it is implicit. Intelligence governs Difference, Multiplicity, Truth, and is explicit. But that's merely a quick sloppy metaphor. The identity of Consciousness with Intelligence is the same as the identity of Love with Truth. Infinite Love is Unity through Multiplicity; in other words, Equality/Solipsism, which is True, Logical, and Perfect. In the end, all this can be explicated ad infinitum, but requires direct experience to actually grasp, as words are in the business of definition, and reality is Undefined. Nonetheless, definition is fundamental.

Consciousness is conscious that there is no difference, Intelligence is so intelligent it creates the difference out of nothing.

It's time we had a dedicated topic on this matter. Sources are irrelevant (personal experience, videos, books, research papers, movie scenes... any resource will do). Scams, cons, heists, etc. also welcome, but the subtler the better. The best theft not only goes wholly unnoticed, but has you thinking you gain something in return (e.g. clickbait). In the end, it all boils down to corruption. If a crocodile is the perfect animal to symbolize traps, for corruption it is the octopus. It can camouflage, release ink to literally muddy the waters, squeeze through any hole no matter how small; yet when its tentacles grab you, they won't let go. And there's 8 of them, so while you're busy fighting one or two or even 7, there's always another to nab you from behind. Plus it's slimy. This is exactly how self-deception operates. And what is theft if not (self-)deception? Except Maya has infinitely many tentacles, is so well-camouflaged it's indistinguishable from your perception, and is completely intangible. https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/110777-octopus-awakening Here's a visual I generated for this thread, heavily 'inspired' by an image taken from the Europol website and fed into an AI trained on stolen data, with a slightly different color scheme, a background overlay of the world map, and a correct placement of different industries the octopus has its tentacles wrapped around. Drugs/pharma between USA & Mexico, financial schemes in the Caribbean tax havens, law in the western EU (The Hague, Euroclear, Geneva), oil in the GCC, and construction (or more broadly, manufacturing) in China/India/Bangladesh. It's rather interesting that they all align pretty closely in a straight line just above the Equator. As though the places above or below are of little importance, serving only as sources of extraction of value. But enough foreplay. I'll get us started with a personal story, at the risk of tarnishing my reputation or catching a ban. This one takes place within the microcosm of digital piracy, yet contains layers upon layers of theft, lies, self-deception, gaslighting, and exploitation. Got plenty more just like it, crazier and broader in fact. Even though the examples we'll hopefully assemble here are useful, truly understanding the depth of this matter requires massive and intimate real-life exposure to it, and even then most of it you'll never know due to factors beyond your control. Example 1: So just this little anecdote from a fairly niche domain illustrates the degree of prevalence and entanglement of the issue. The same pattern is present not only all over this planet, but across the infinite dimensions of reality. Unless you're unflinchingly prudent, it will get you. Especially when your guard is down. However, there exists a certain precipice where you see through all the deception with complete clarity and fall in love with it head over heels. But we'll leave that for the spirituality subforum. Some Actualized.org videos directly pertinent to the matter at hand: - How To Avoid Getting Scammed, Cheated, Exploited, Conned, and Screwed In Life - How Corruption Works - The Social Matrix - How Society Is A Mass Hallucination (fun fact: this one is somehow shadowbanned even on the direct channel page search; by keywords 'social' and 'matrix', 'hallucination' works) I'd also throw over a dozen others onto the list, but as already stated that won't be anywhere near enough. Now, let's get the ball rolling. Of particular interest is the theft you've personally committed or are committing. Sharing that publicly will do wonders for your shadow integration work. Who's up for that? Though first consider that this could all be an elaborate honeypot disguised as philosophy designed to trick people into openly confessing to their crimes.

That is exactly what they are. You conveniently skipped over this section of the reply from a previous page: "Bottomless delusion is the point, that's the whole structure of reality. Truth is the mechanism of delusion (short ver.: Truth is delusion). Truth being too sacred to deconstruct is a projection, if it's true it will withstand all deconstruction. And it will, because there's nothing there to deconstruct. See if you can deconstruct that." It's not a hierarchy of significance or superiority, if there is any hierarchy it's that of awareness. The grandma is also God experiencing itself, she just doesn't know it and that's okay. She is our ontological equal, therefore I take this comparison as flattering. And I'm telling you this won't work. Many are blind to it, no doubt. But some may not be blind at all, they're simply too deep into their delusion and narcissism, by conscious choice. Truth is exactly what you want. Leo's statement "Truth doesn't care about what you want" only directly contradicts this to those who are dissociated from Truth. If you could persuade someone in possession of truth of the falsity of their view, that would automatically make it false. Think about that. Truth is entirely self-evident, this whole discussion is just a game of projection of Q.E.D.'s between two mirrors, exactly as per spec. I'm sure I sound incoherent in places. Well, that's because I can effortlessly switch between speaking as a human and as God. Or maybe I actually am incoherent and psychotic. That's up for interpretation. To be discovered, something first needs to be generated, that is plainly obvious. Same here, cheers.

Nobody treats their projects as a mere preference, whether it's Hitler, Leo, or a kid at a science fair. Bias is so profound it's a matter of life and death & beyond, some biases you couldn't drop even with a gun to your head. But what do you care how he treats it? Take what's of value, filter the rest. It's not like I can't or don't openly criticize Leo. For example: https://www.actualized.org/insights/actualized-quotes-381 — pure smug, blindly self-indulgent post, while having a conversation on a science podcast pending to release any day. #382 is also repetitive waste, that time would be better spent on completing the Deconstructing Rationality series. As you said, we're all just humans with faults. Or this whole reply I gave in another thread: https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/112839-leo-cant-fix-you-because-you-are-neurodivergent/?do=findComment&comment=1731704 I see him clear enough, and I also see that the criticism and really any activity on this forum is distraction/entertainment. But I like it, so here I am. Maybe another day something will change and I won't be. Call it cope if you like. There is such a thing as Cope as an absolute, so you're not even wrong about that. By the way, you're sneaking in subtle language such as 'mere' or 'benevolent'. I didn't say that.

Not really. Only when his job requires it. Just like a math teacher insists on the importance of learning math, or your parents on getting a good career or whatever. If they instead said that it's all a meaningless hobby and being an uneducated homeless drug addict is no better or worse, you can see how most people would choose to behave. But he explicitly stated that's it all a bias on several occasions.

Yes, and I 'realized' that they don't come into existence at all, they already exist, as does everything else. Anything 'new' (insight, life, action...) is an imagined distinction. There's no need for me to deny the chains — some I see, others I don't. #2: You make it sound as though the second option is somehow inferior because it implicitly strips you of agency or is illusory. A meaningless distinction. I (Consciousness) was always there, imagined forgetting what I am, plus the entire chain of events leading to an eventual rediscovery of the source. The two options seamlessly blend into a strange loop. Naive solipsistic idealism that doesn't incorporate Will and other important factors would indeed fail at eluding your mechanism, but this very mechanism is an indispensable part of the engine of reality; it works regardless of whether you're aware of or accept it or not, and it works with perfect precision and beauty. Try escaping it if you like, to a certain degree that's healthy skepticism, but ideally that would culminate in realizing that escaping it is impossible nor is there a need to, as you are the mechanism that has designed itself and all escape attempts. Thus, #3 becomes a moot point, since the difference between 'discovered' and 'generated' was itself generated (imagined), which doesn't bother me in the slightest. At any given moment I know and don't know as much as I need to, neither more nor less. All that's ever happening is light bouncing around at different angles within the fractal mirror of Mind ('happening', 'light', 'bouncing', 'different', 'angles', etc. are of course imaginary both as terms/concepts and the 'actual' things those words are pointing at). Under the definition I previously gave and considering what's said above in this post, yes. You see, all of my wrongness, hypocrisy, and egotism are totally consistent with the trajectory Consciousness has set for me, and they'll be corrected (or not) when the time comes. Don't take this as avoidance of responsibility, I'm doing the best I can, as is everyone. Unlike you, I rewatched the video in full. Maybe what's actually arrogant is going through 8% of the runtime and assuming the rest will just be the same since the introduction is already familiar to you. Imagine dropping a university class or some online course you bought because the instructor dedicated the first few lectures to reviewing and solidifying the priors/fundamentals. Without even going through 1/10th of the material, you presume to know it all. No wonder there are blind spots even in this simple framework you presented in this thread, let alone understanding of reality as a whole. Doesn't matter how potent your observation ability is, it's not enough; you still need talking heads, books, other perspectives, and much more, which can then be filtered and synthesized. Perhaps if you bothered to watch the full 3 hours you'd find many of your objections addressed. Consider that you should. But also consider the nuances of that as to not dig yourself into a deeper hole.

Simply because it's universally accommodating, without exclusions/exceptions. Essentially SD stage Green values of inclusivity and diversity raised to absolutes. Perhaps the notion of consistency under the following definition can be of help: "agreement or harmony of parts or features to one another or a whole specifically: ability to be asserted together without contradiction" That's a fundamental property of Infinity, from there it's not too difficult to also make the logical connection to Beauty, Integrity, and so on, but past a certain point explicitly communicating such things doesn't work properly and even does harm. I could go on a whole spiel here using a parent-child analogy that incorporates love, bias, sovereignty, and this and that, but in the end you'd (not unwarrantably) call that a frame and frame it as a Q.E.D. for your original point. That is fine, everyone has some aspect/facet of reality they struggle with. For me Love and 40+ others are crystal clear by now, but Miracle is still elusive; though it's obviously there, experientially I only see Certainty save for rare occasions. Can only speak for myself, but I didn't start this journey looking for love, not consciously anyway. The word wasn't even in my vocabulary really. When Leo presented the idea it didn't exactly resonate emotionally or logically, all I did was remain open to it. Long story short, after enough inquiry it became undeniable, if nothing else then simply from a consistency standpoint. I had a love for understanding, but didn't understand what love or understanding is; then it turned out that Truth and Love are identical. So it's not like I wanted love to be true, I wanted the truth, whatever it may be, and got love as a bonus. Pretty sure that's how it goes for a lot of autistic guys, love is not a matter of wishful thinking for us, and can even cause some repulsion initially. Notice that you frame the definition of spirituality in your OP from a traditionally feminine perspective ("Ask this community what spirituality is for and they'll say equanimity, peace, love, presence"). Your deconstruction as presented here is a frame too, you know. 'Outside' implies duality and therefore wrong, you need to realize that you are the frame and always have been, always will be. But it's tricky since 'you' is too vague, language as a whole is. Nothing anyone says or does can induce this realization; at best it can serve as some food for thought, and more often than not lead to further deception and distraction. When a deconstruction is not thorough enough, it will result in more construction. Making the relative into an absolute while sitting in the relative domain is a big oversight. Nobody's disputing that at the end of the day all the truth-seeking and awakening is a preference/bias/hobby, this fits perfectly well into the larger point. Bottomless delusion is the point, that's the whole structure of reality. Truth is the mechanism of delusion (short ver.: Truth is delusion). Truth being too sacred to deconstruct is a projection, if it's true it will withstand all deconstruction. And it will, because there's nothing there to deconstruct. See if you can deconstruct that. But tread lightly. Maybe give How Your Mind Interprets Reality another watch, it is often overlooked. P.S.: your posts read much better without AI.

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Key word and a summary of the entire thread right there. "To the man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail" is a similar proverb. Forget Love and all that fluff for now, that can come later. Just like everyone else, regardless of the level of consciousness or any which arbitrary metric, you have the final say on the beliefs and values you hold, whether you call those truth or opinions or something else, and how you react to and relate to 'frames' presented by others (assuming you believe others exist in the first place). That's simply authority. It can be externalized, such as accepting/rejecting someone's authority on a particular matter, or trying to project yours onto others (the so-called 'spiritual authority game', which can just as well be political, scientific, etc.); but it's really an internal, inalienable faculty. Colloquially, the ultimate authority in reality is known as God. Take it at face value with all the cultural baggage, reject it altogether, or reinterpret it into something in-between based on your personal experiences — any choice requires employing your authority. Authority is used as unconsciously as consciousness, one is not more fundamental than the other. You exist, right? On whose authority? Existence, Consciousness, Authority, Reality, Truth, etc. are identical. Since "Seek, and ye shall find" is so universal, consider that it could also mean that there's nothing that cannot be found (everything exists, a.k.a. Infinity), and that whatever anyone finds could be the same thing appearing as different forms. And after all, isn't a reality where everyone finds exactly what they want the most loving and perfect way a reality could be?

Just the one: Reality is naught but a mindfuck. In other words, God's Mind making Love to itself, for all eternity. All phenomena without exception are mindfucks, originating from God imagining it exists. Chemical reactions, collisions of celestial bodies, propagation of sound waves, and any other physical processes are all mindfucks. Self-deception, assumptions, confusion, conformity, bias, erroneous beliefs... mindfucks all the same. Every emotion, including, necessarily, surprise, is a mindfuck. Understanding or lack thereof is a mindfuck, so is having insights. Grasping how Everything is Nothing or that Unity is Multiplicity is a mindfuck, and grasping how you are grasping this creates a layered mindfuck. Spirituality is just a quest for ever greater mindfucks, whether you realize and/or admit it or not. Why is doing any activity with awareness so exhausting? Precisely because in this limited state you've mindfucked yourself into, the depth & density of the recursion, interconnection, and self-reference is too much to handle, but there's always an apparently simpler mindfuck in the form of distraction to come to the rescue. I'm not saying anything particularly new here, merely wording it explicitly; if this text were a zip bomb, parsing it could lead to a headache, dismissal, agreement, a desire to argue, perhaps even a complete understanding of reality — any number of potential outcomes, all of which would of course be mindfucks. Don't think too hard about it. Enjoy the Process.

Nothing I said implies you have to make perfect use of your mind all the time (that's actually impossible) nor that suffering is bad in any way. On the contrary, it's the best self-correcting mechanism there is. Whether you're sure about this point or not is up to you to contemplate, I could of course just be talking out of my ass.