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Nice Ty, for sure. So the blaming is also God

So only thinking exists? What a mind fuck. So what creates the "physical world" around us? Is that also thought?

Just admit we love our addictions. Before we had that bad habit, we actively sought it out because it brought us joy. Now you want to "go back". But go back to what? There is no going back. You can only go forward to whatever you seek out next.

As Leo says, It's most important to do your own thinking. He literally mentions in the video that expecting spiritual teachers to be 100% right is a trap. If what he says isn't true for you, then it's not true for you.

Oh I see what you mean

Yes important episode to develop consciousness political views. Trump is antithetical to that. Also I have am not arguing against "the other side". Bush vs Gore, Obama vs Romney or McCain were not elections where democracy was at stake by a wannabe dictator. Those elections were choices between two rational and decent people.

Your choices are an isolationist, who reversed abortion laws, suggests injecting bleach, cheats on his wife with porn stars, and encouraged an insurrection. But yes he lowered your taxes. Vs One of the most progressive presidents ever, (student loan forgiveness, marijuana laws, chips and science act, investing in infrastructure, supports unions, healthcare, etc). But yes he's old. If you are worried about Gaza, Trump has suggested being even tougher towards Hamas. Choose wisely.

I'm a progressive and I was sold on it. I'm not trying to convince conservatives I am trying to convince people already on center or left to vote for Biden. Someone like you. The elephant in the room is bleach, pornstars, and insurrection. Not me being divisive. *Trump has an even tougher stance on Hamas

Why are the illegal West Bank settlements overlooked. Isn't that the primary cause of the conflict there?

The presidency isn't a beauty pageant, sure Biden is not my first choice either and he is old, but when democracy is on the line it not worth risking a third party vote. Biden is one of the most progressive presidents in our lifetimes (student loan forgiveness, marijuana laws). He is actually pretty good policy wise if you look it up. Imagine if Jan 6 was done by Biden supporters? Or Biden openly cheated on his wife with multiple porn stars? Or suggested injecting bleach into ourselves? He would have no chance, but Trump has his supporters in a delusional fervor that is not healthy for the world.

He is a threat to democracy. If you don't care for democracy then vote Trump

We will never know the yoga practices, psychedelics, or scientific discoveries of the alien species on other planets.

I'd like opinions on this quote by Giordano Bruno and how well it corresponds to what Leo is saying. I want to use this quote, as further "evidence" to help people see that Leo is correct and that the individual person can realize they indeed are God (albeit from one perspective). Here's the quote... "Unless you make yourself equal to God, you cannot understand God: for the like is not intelligible save to the like. Make yourself grow to a greatness beyond measure, by a bound free yourself from the body; raise yourself above all time, become Eternity; then you will understand God. Believe that nothing is impossible for you, think yourself immortal and capable of understanding all, all arts, all sciences, the nature of every living being. Mount higher than the highest height; descend lower than the lowest depth. Draw into yourself all sensations of everything created, fire and water, dry and moist, imagining that you are everywhere, on earth, in the sea, in the sky, that you are not yet born, in the maternal womb, adolescent, old, dead, beyond death. If you embrace in your thought all things at once, times, places, substances, qualities, quantities, you may understand God."

Thank you Leo! you are the Socrates/Bruno/Plato of our time.....corrupting the youth and all....it's a pleasure being apart of this group

But where would "God" or the "book of life" be stored then? And if they don't need to be stored anywhere why do you?

Do Sadguru's inner engineering course and everything about you will change. Otherwise just REALLY WANT to quit and eventually you will. The reason this is true because there was a time in your life when you REALLY WANTED to have nothing more than endless time on your phone.....and you made that happen too.

You guys got me. So true and mind blowing.

All the great spiritual forums across the universe will also never be known by us. There could be planet where the average forum participant is 1000x more advanced than on planet earth.....this is a humbling

We also won't know all the good books aliens have written. Most humans won't even know all the great books humans have written.

"Unless you make yourself equal to God, you cannot understand God: for the like is not intelligible save to the like. Make yourself grow to a greatness beyond measure, by a bound free yourself from the body; raise yourself above all time, become Eternity; then you will understand God. Believe that nothing is impossible for you, think yourself immortal and capable of understanding all, all arts, all sciences, the nature of every living being. Mount higher than the highest height; descend lower than the lowest depth. Draw into yourself all sensations of everything created, fire and water, dry and moist, imagining that you are everywhere, on earth, in the sea, in the sky, that you are not yet born, in the maternal womb, adolescent, old, dead, beyond death. If you embrace in your thought all things at once, times, places, substances, qualities, quantities, you may understand God." -Giordano Bruno

This post took an interesting direction. However, Bruno is saying the same thing as Leo, but over 500 years ago. And same thing Jesus, Mohamad, and the Buddha said. All disagreement is just due to misinterpretation.

You are in a volleyball forum arguing why soccer is better and I'm not sure why. But I will indulge you a little if you like. Studies and tests don't matter when talking about consciousness since studies and tests are in consciousness. Even scientists who study consciousness admit this. Yes this is true. We call this an insight and what this forum is all about. Another good question is where is all the information in the universe stored, if not in consciousness? Consciousness is the only apparent answer, and there can be no other answer, not even in theory. Hope you find this interesting. I probably won't reply if your answer is just mindless angry arguing. But if you are interested in a healthy debate where both sides can learn something I look forward to your answer.

Wish we could discuss our favorite books somehow without giving away the titles. Anyway the book list is great highly recommend reading them.

Here's a quote by Giordano Bruno sounds lot like Leo, what you think? "Unless you make yourself equal to God, you cannot understand God: for the like is not intelligible save to the like. Make yourself grow to a greatness beyond measure, by a bound free yourself from the body; raise yourself above all time, become Eternity; then you will understand God. Believe that nothing is impossible for you, think yourself immortal and capable of understanding all, all arts, all sciences, the nature of every living being. Mount higher than the highest height; descend lower than the lowest depth. Draw into yourself all sensations of everything created, fire and water, dry and moist, imagining that you are everywhere, on earth, in the sea, in the sky, that you are not yet born, in the maternal womb, adolescent, old, dead, beyond death. If you embrace in your thought all things at once, times, places, substances, qualities, quantities, you may understand God."

Great idea. Like a book club. We could number each book and use the number instead of the title (so as to not give the titles away for people who didn't pay for it)