ExploringReality

There's a difference between being a solipsist as an idea in your mind, a self image and actually conscious of solipsism.

Participation trophies. People intellectualize and philosophize non-dual teachings without directly being conscious or at least shifting their state of consciousness, and they learn the password of "there is no self" lol

Enlightenment karaoke, singing all the greatest hits "you're already it!" without writing any original music

Are you both standing on the same ground or are you guys standing on your own grounds that God exists? Have you asked her why she believes in Jesus, have you had conversations with her that question her beliefs? Kudos to @Natasha Tori Maru you're a gem out there in the world. You have a beautiful mind. you're quite hottie and feisty lol we went at each other's throats. That's interesting. How do you feel going to church with her really? Do you feel like you're turning away from yourself inside to subtly please her or maintain the image of the relationship? Would it matter to her if you said no? Not because you're not open but because you're sovereign, however I'm not telling you what you want to do. Whether you want to or not, I'm asking if whatever choice you make, is it true and integral to you? I'm not saying that you can't participate in other people's paradigms and there's no fun in that or it's not a big deal, but it's good to be honest with yourself about what your intrinsic boundaries are.

@Inliytened1 Hahaha. The irony right? Have you brought it up to her at all? And if so what was her response or reaction? Would you like to be with someone who shares more grounded open-mindedness, willing to look outside the edges of their worldview? To have really deep conversations that threatened the self and constructed psyche? Have you showed her Leo's channel? It can feel isolating when two people don't resonate internally but I suppose you can still share great experiences with another even if they don't suspect the world and it's double

I'm not sure, that's an interesting question. Do you use toothpaste with fluoride?

Exactly 💯 The ego in its lower stage of intelligence and development can twist Truth and turn enlightenment into a philosophy or a concept. A belief system of enlightenment and spirituality. It is true that enlightenment isn't somewhere else, that it is you, but it doesn't mean you know thyself. The pointers are only that, but people fall for the finger instead of trying to grasp what it's pointing to. People believe the finger of enlightenment haha. It is a danger to tell people that they are already enlightened, it's a tightrope that people need to balance with skilled epistemic feet and meditative and contemplative rigor. It's easy to delude oneself in this regard. I personally think there's a danger on both sides. Telling someone that it's already the case and also saying that you need to work your ass off to realize that it's the case. Because there's traps on both sides and I think there is benefits in bringing both of them together in a smart way so you don't just waste your time mechanically meditating on some future goal or blindly believing what some other person is telling you

I'm not arguing against you, I'm dovetailing with you. I'm not arguing the case that one is enlightened before one is, relativistically speaking, I'm simply saying "after"you pass through that gate you then see that there isn't one. "Do not try and bend the spoon, simply realize that there is no spoon". Look at the spoon (self) long enough for many many hours until you realize that there's nothing there And yes I know that there are non-dualist that will happily tell you that there isn't anything to work towards and you don't have to do a damn thing, that's not what I'm saying.

NO-Self is already the case no matter your realization of it or not, however I'm not suggesting you dont work hard to awaken, I'm simply speaking from the Absolute, but as a relativistic finite self you work your ass off to realize what you actually are which isn't something to gain paradoxically. As an illusory self you need to bust through that illusion, pierce through that veil, but the illusion of self is already the case. You realize what is already the case. It's like looking for your glasses while they're already on your face, right now you do not know that you are wearing them until you recognize that you haven't found anything but simply remembered that it's already here. Obviously you seek and search for that which isn't elsewhere but simply hidden in plain sight but also it's not a thing to find.

@Inliytened1 Enlightenment isn't something obtained. It is the recognition of what is already here. It is not something to grab, it is the letting go and realization that there is nothing to grab onto to, but this is not the same as not seeking, because if you don't seek, you won't find the needleless needle

Enlightenment can easily turn into a concept and a sneaky way to identify ourselves as. What is solipsism really? Solipsism isn't your current ego stripped away from the world and only you remain, like Will Smith in "I am legend" metaphorically speaking. Solipsism is an Awakening to yourself as what there always has been. Not your survival and life, You are literally imagining all of existence and reality right now and you don't even know it!! Ego isn't running the show, God is. You are not separate from it but you are mistaken that you are, so you can experience that you are not the whole of Existence , that you are separate with a mortal life. We have this limited subjective first person experience among many others, and we cling, attach and identify with this bubble of experience and try to maintain that for the purposes of our persistence and survival, then we expand this identity outwardly and include more and more into our selves and expand our identity, then finally we realize after including all of reality into our selves and not just identifying with our personal ego and reality, but that it goes full circle that all of it is myself. There is only One. But One isn't a relative polarity from manyness, it's the unification of alllll dualities, all selves, all others!

What do you mean by self? And what do you mean by solipsism?

Define Enlightenment please.

I have not. It seems like an absolutely mind boggling and metaphysically terrifying combination. If you do it, take good notes and tell us about it.

@Nemra After ever taking LSD, within my visual field, from above there are potential lines of hallucinations that fountain out and glide down my visual field into a myriad of potential hallucinations. Have you ever tripped really hard on LSD in one spot and your entire visual field becomes non-physical? That's exactly what I have even after taking LSD although it's not as intense and boundary dissolving, my reality is intact but you know when they say once you trip the psyche could never go back.

You and davino are one of my favorites along with lamdadelta. I had a dream that we were all at a table drinking tea and talking into the moonlight

Study what narscissm is and what BPD is. Study mental illness in relationships, not saying he is narcissistic but if you notice patterns, lack of accountability, blame shifting, denial, lack of self reflection and low empathy, try to recenter yourself and own your version of reality regardless if he sees it differently, you seem like someone who seeks feedback and is open to learning and self reflective, continue that but don't sacrifice your perception for his. Agree to disagree, stand your ground. I cannot tell you what to do with your relationship, but your need for the relationship can be used by him as power and leverage for his narrative.

I want to create a stockpile of examples of all the ways social media has been exploited, polluted and warped by cultural and societal programming . Examples of how people get duped and exploited by social media influencers and content creators and bullshit in general Whatever examples you think are stark and also tie into how humans are conformist sheep that don't think for themselves, Share them. One example is YouTube comments specifically. Notice what gets the most clicks, replies, the YouTube comments section is a giant cesspool of epistemic garbage that everyone swims in. There are literally eco worlds and eco chambers you can go through just on comments there. Share specific examples, ones that put out bullshit on display to observe and deconstruct. What are all the ways we abuse and corrupt social media in the ways we use it?

Any fine teacher who's done hardcore psychedelics is worth an ear

I'm listening to his YouTube videos and he's teaching from the Absolute. He can trigger a recognition of the Absolute within you. His words point back to states I accessed myself. He has a beautiful teaching style and cuts through egoic bullshit.

Interesting. You found the man behind the man. There is a healthy degree of scepticism, however this guy is certainly on the dime, he is definitely the one behind satana gatama, his flow and presence is very precise and eloquent

@Leo Gura Explain what you mean by how badly we handle this topic. Your episode is very dense and is very sprawling, there's so much juice that just watching it once or twice isn't enough, there is always going to be more that went over my head

Consciousness has locked itself into specific self-states with limited identities per fraction of consciousness, so Solipsism is the breakdown of illusory existential boundaries and dualities constructed by a finite piece of consciousness into your own formless and infinite nature

You can verify absolute solipsism even in familiar waking consciousness by being conscious right now that everything you experience is happening through you. The only reason other people exist is because you do. Others realness is coming through you. Objective reality is being experienced through your consciousness, without it there is no reality. Look around, look at people and objects or whatever your consciousness lands on, is it out there? Outside yourself? Check! It appears outside of you. Also look at your body, it appears outside of you but notice that all this is happening through your consciousness not outside it. You don't have to delude or trick yourself into seeing what is already the case. Actually the reverse is the case, you're playing a hard trick on yourself to avoid seeing what is, that's why your life is so fucking hard and why you attribute a negative conotation to absolute aloneness because you don't clearly see yourself. Your not conscious of reality

@Natasha Tori Maru happy new years love