Daniel Balan

@Girzo Would you please recommend me a book about economics? I would like to read one to grasp a bit about this topic which I totally admit that I am illiterate in.

But I am sorry that I said TIK is tier 2. In retrospect he clearly isn't but I still think he is a very developed orange! To me he is embodying everything positive in stage orange! And guys you are a bit too harsh. He ain't no libertarian! He is pro capitalism that's all. He has a bias against socialists and a fairly justified one none the less.

And when I say socialist I don't mean the type of socialism that Bernie Sanders advocates or the left leaning activists, that is not socialism that is a form of capitalism that has the greed and the bullshit extracted away from it. What I mean when I say socialism is what is happening in my home country! A new leader rose to proeminence for calling the nationalization of every factory and production outlet, the fact that the state should hold 51% of the shares of every bussiness in Romania, and the isolation of the country from the western world so that the country shall produce everything within. This guy is a fascist with positive views on war criminals from ww2, has ultra nationalistic rhetoric and says the word god, every 5 words. That is the socialism that breeds fascism that I warn about!

@Leo Gura Thank you for the warning Leo! But what TIK is saying about history in my eyes is extremely accurate! He said that the NSDAP party had used populism to garner the support needed to obtain a significant number of seats in the german parliament! Which is true! Fascists will use socialism to appeal to the working class, the same working class which will be later used as cannon fodder for their fascist ambition be it war or be it ultra nationalistic state controled isolationist economy! To me in order to achieve fascism you need ultra nationalism and socialism. Here TIK is correct. Hitler was a socialist who was also a extreme nationalist who was very openly racist and above all he was anti liberal! Failing to understand that calls for revolution, calls for destroying capitalism, calls for nationalization lead to full blown fascist authoritarianism. I hope I get my point across this time!

I stand corrected! I've seen just now a video which I haven't seen before about how TIK views the state intervention in society! Although he is biased on certain libertarian policies, I would still seek to look at the bigger picture that he is presenting! Which is looking at past events and current ones with a keen eye to understand why certain things have unfolded the way it did. Also his bible in terms of economics is this in the image! Have you guys read it? I haven't and I would like to know if you liked it.

@aurum Everyone has different views on different topics, I find value in what he is saying. He is not a libertarian, nor a anti - socialist, How I view it, he tries to find the middle ground and to point out at different aspects of each economic ideology. My role as a spectator is to find nuggets of truth from multiple sources. From Leo I have one piece of the puzzle, from TIK I have another, and so on, even from Tate if you toss away all the bullshit that he promotes you can still find valuable pieces of the puzzle.

@Lyubov Isn't tier 2 supposed to acknowledge different perspectives? Are his takes wrong about how some socialist policies backfire in the face of the very people socialism tries to help? I deeply condemn the use of the word blasphemy. You can disagree, it is your right, but in a tier 2 discussion you can't just outright dismiss one's point of view just because you have already taken a stance regarding a subject. Tier 2 is about open mindedness towards topics. Plus he is not anti socialistic, he values the welfare state and everything that it brings, he just points out that policies have often on the long term opposite outcomes than initially intended.

@aurum I've watched dozens of hours of his content an I can say hands down that this is tier 2 content. All his takes are factual, well thought and based on nuanced, multi source research. Just because he is not parroting the same errors that mainstream takes have had about various ideologies and events doesn't mean that he is making many errors, I've never sensed any error from him in over 20+ hours of content. If you had found a error in his rhetoric we can debate it. History lies in the heart of the debate!

"Every policy that a socialist calls for is in fact the cause of the problem that they are trying to solve" They call for rent control to lower the rents, and then wonder why rents end up being higher than they were before rent control, and why there are slumlords and housing shortages. They don’t realise the knock-on effects of their policies. They just want to save society - and that’s great! But: "The short-term gain hides the long-term cost." I encourage everyone to take a deep look at the video above and to subscribe to TIK History! To me TIK History is on par with Actualized.org in terms of thorough research and tier 2 development! When I see TIK explain various topics regarding history and doing parallels with what's happening today in the world makes me think that I am so lucky to have been exposed to such beautiful minds such as TIK and @Leo Gura. To me TIK is the Leo of history in terms of how he approaches his work.

@Leo GuraAgain, you probably assume that because you believe that stage purple cannot build nations, which is correct, that's why you need the stage blue coating, but let's imagine that stage purple can built a nation of the extent of Nazi Germany, once it accomplishes that, what is this nation's objectives? Given their purple level of development? Isn't it exactly what the Nazis actually did between 1933 and 1945? To me it is! Only a stage purple nation will aim to destroy the "Subhumans" which are other tribes aka nations that undermine their survival. So that's what the nazis did! They went on a quest to destroy the tribes that opposed their agenda and to take their land. If this isn't something that you yourself have talked in your stage purple video that tribes want to conquer neighbouring tribes to take their resources then I admit being wrong. I think that here is just a difference of scale in case of 20th century fascism rather that stage of development. The reason that more classic stage purple tribes in the Amazon forest haven't done the same horrific evil as the fascists of the 20th century is simply SCALE! At the core, in my eyes, there is no difference! The level of development of nationalists and tribes from the Amazon IS THE SAME!!!

@Leo Gura Why? To me all this Aryan master race BS screams PURPLE. Even the swastika is a pagan symbol. You talked about symbolism in your Stage Purple video. And I do not strictly refer to Nazism, I mostly refer to fascism and Orthodox Christianity, which in my eyes have a coating of blue, but the core is stage purple! Purple is the one who adores their dead forebears and adheres to the most dumb traditions! To me the most stark example of purple is Ortodox Christianity! I admit that I have a very skewed view of the world and of Spiral Dynamics. But through my experience religion is mostly stage purple BS. I admit myself that I am at stage red, where I deeply rebel against religion.

@Leo Gura And don't you think that going hyper toxic orange can actually regress the whole society back to a less developed stage? I think that going hyper capitalistic can also cause a big backlash like what happened in Nazi Germany prior to 1933. In my opinion in the aftermath of this ideological war the society will be less developed that before the Trump era back in 2016. So after all this shit show is over we will be no were near the point we were before all this began.

@aurum @Leo GuraI do believe I am not wrong here! My understanding of blue is as follows: Discipline and obedience to authority. Rigid thinking and us vs them mentality. Order and structure and deep respect for the ethnicity of one's group. In general for me blue is living life in conformity and discipline. Here is what purple means for me: Herd mentality and irrational belief in the Christian God above everything else. Barbarism and tribalism!( My ethnicity and my view of the world trumps others, Only my way is correct! Others are wrong) Close mindedness. The ultra focus on traditions, rituals, mysticism and the forever commemoration of the forebears. The glorification of violence and conquest for the greater good of the community! Defeating adversaries that have different beliefs than myself. I know what the Spiral Dynamics model is contradicted by my assumptions but I believe one of the greatest mistakes we can make is to think rigidly inside the already defined model(Spiral Dynamics). To me I see that the model overestimates the amount of development that humans have achieved so far. From my direct experience everyone is 2 stages lower. For me what you call Green I call Blue. For me there are 3 Tiers of development. Purple and Red are tier 1. Blue, Orange and Green are tier 2. And Yellow and Turquoise are tier 3. Spiral dynamics in my eyes fatally places Christianity as stage Blue. I live in Romania, and here after living for 24 years in a Orthodox Christian society, I completely grasped that Ortodox Christianity falls in the definition of purple I laid above. To me stage blue is a stage where for the first time in history the human starts to behave more like a rational being than a lame ape. And what I see around me is ignorant apes everywhere. I think you guys under appreciate the amount of development that is required to even reach blue! And in my eyes mankind is mostly at purple and red! Our political and societal situation is the biggest proof that what I said above could be at least partly true!

@Leo Gura National Socialism was as totalitarian and authoritarian as a regime can get, on a slider of totalitarianism national socialism it's at the maximum limit on that scale! But we have to make distinctions here! I argue that what you said here in the blog post is misleading: Most businesses in Nazi Germany were privately owned. Private property existed. Some industries were denationalized and privatized Hitler allowed German industrialists to earn huge profits Independent labor unions were banned. Worker rights and strikes were suppressed. Those affirmations above may induce a sense that Nazi Germany had a capitalist economic system. Which is wrong. Businesses were part of state-controlled cartels, and their operations were dictated by state policies, not market forces. The state had the power to intervene in every business transaction, making private ownership in name only. State-Controlled Privatization: What was called "privatization" was more about state control through nominally private entities. The state often nationalized businesses first and then sold them to individuals or entities aligned with national socialist ideology, who were then subject to extensive state control. This was not privatization in the capitalist sense but a method to enhance state control over the economy. Profit for State Benefit: While industrialists could earn profits, these were heavily regulated, taxed, and could be confiscated under various pretexts. In 1941, industrialists were complaining that 80 to 90 percent of their profits were being taken by the state. Profits were seen as a means to fund state objectives, not as an end in themselves. Although independent labor unions were indeed banned, they were replaced by the German Labour Front (DAF), which was a state-controlled entity. This was part of the socialist policy of state control over all aspects of life, including labor. I do emphasize the fact that we should see that national socialism should be seen as the enemy of capitalism because as you said in your blog post Hitler’s nationalist agenda was similar to Christian Nationalism and Project 2025. That means that we are living in times where history repeats itself and if we are not careful we might mistake the fascist movement that is going on world wide with something that is improving capitalism, which is FALSE! Fascism is the Kryptonite of capitalism, of free markets and Democracy! FASCISM is deeply illiberal and controlling. And my critique with this post is that one should never put FASCISM and Capitalism in the same sentence -because that is the mistake that led to the second election of Trump. If people realised that Ultra - Nationalism, creating a ethno - Christian state only serves to the destruction of capitalism and the rise of Fascism which at it's core is totalitarian authoritarian socialism.

I want to know what you think of this guys