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@mr_engineer Something i just found out about, i find very interesting. If i assume i am hyper creative and also highly logic based. Then chat gpt comes out with the statement This sounds very suitable for me, i have been missing the strategic planning part of a lot of the just creative and logic based assumptions decuctions. And then recommends theses options Very interesting i must say. Not to say i should become a innovation strategist. But i mean, don't everyone constantly and intuitivly make connections about diffrent fields and knowledges? Constently make up new ideas, and have a great imagination? I suppose not, maybe i am just more creative than i give myself out to be. Lets try again, but lets assume hyper creative and medium high logic. Like truth, emperical info and logic Alright, i'll start of becoming an IA reasearch scientist, or data scienctist, or simmilarly creative and empirical field. Thanks again for the assistence.

Hey the actualized community! I was interested in achiwement for most of my teen years, and to a large extent still are. But where my interest originally was focused on and driven by status, money and pure success, i today find a much more philosopical apporach from a view of application to "achiwe" interesting. perspectivating one kind of science or one subject in science to another fields problem, or just lack of current knowledge, and see where the assumption leads, both in respect to the already gained knowledge, as much if not more to how it works in an applied setting. And then using this newly gained knowledge to see if it gives and unknown "edge" to find a better way of doing. I enjoy axiomatic systems, from which you can derive a lot of information, and are used in many contexts. I have thus considered taking a bachelor's in mathematics, with some electives in epistemology, in addition to statistics. And then maybe a candidate in statistics, although that part has to be considered afterwards I've also before thought of pursuing a degree in econ or accounting, becouse of the largely applied numbers based apporached, but if i assume i am good at math, which would be seen as right, then i find a degree in math could just as well, if not better suited? What do you think? It would be an unconventional apprach to math and epistemology, for a skillset of logic and practical problem solving. Which i suggest there would be needed, if not, then math is always very much in need. Btw i live in Denmark, so the degree would be fully paid for, with a basic minimum income to pay for housing if not also food. Thanks

I'm mostly thinking, like books and games are, purely man made. I find it interesting getting new knowledge about how the world works, and books and games just don't give that kind of nuance, from my experience. I'll do my best. Thanks a lot for the advice It has been very insight and helpfull for me. Now i have a goal i can try and pursure.

sounds good. I've always, also in relation to the hard sciences been interested in the "real world", as in things that has relation to and can be used to navigate in the real world, solve "real" problems, and so on. Not it's anything i strive for it to be like, i just never really find games, fiction or movies interesting, unless they are satire. So i want to ask, my skillsets could easily be used for something "practical" rather than virtuel? While it still being lets say very computer dominant or theory dominant? Alright, i will try and learn to program. To sneack peak into if it's what i should do and spend my time on. I think it's quite important that i find something logic based, and creative. Where ML and data is a very solid option, i also suppose the technical expertise can be used in many other fields, like finance or pharma? Anywhere there is large amounts of data to generate new insight. ML and data might be bold, something i see no problem in at all, if it's what i find i want to do. I typically performe very well if i set my mind to it, and find it as the "thing i do". Having a singular focus where i relate other activities into it, or dismiss them. Could you explain more? I suppose i am not as career focused or internalized as you make it out to be.

very insightfull! It's almost frightful what some knowledge of spiral dynamics and philosophy makes one able to do. What is your reasoning behind the conclusion that i should go into spesifically CS/AI/data science, and i would be good at R&D? I've also in my searching and thinking come accross data science and machine learning a lot, quant finance, engineering and math with some epistemologi. As being suitable fields i would find pleasing and excel at. While it might be obvious if we say that i am logically thinking and creative. I would be nice to be able to work for myself, start my own company, but i also fully agree that it would only be an interesting journet if i where already highly technically proficient I've recently more specifically looked at two programs for my bachelor Machine learning and data science. -Combination of CS and math-stat -2 years of fixed courses, and one year with a bachelor's project and elective courses -Recommended graduite degree is CS, while stats degree is possible with the elective courses in stats Math-stat -Math degree with specialty in statistics. -2 years of fixed courses, and one year with a bachelor's project and elective courses -Recommended graduite degree is stats. Machine learning and data science seems like a very interesting option, it's quite a new degree, where the only problem i see is that i havent prior to this been interested in programing, other than comprehensive excel calculations. And it's highly recommended to be slightly proficient in programing before attenting the degree in ML and data science. But i could probably also learn this over the summor, to be proficient enough to do well at the degree. Sure, i agree. I should find out what i want to do, so i can posure that, and do as well as possible. It's always a lot more fun to be good at one thing, rather than mediocore at many. I am just mostly thinking that math is in high demand in general. It can clearly be seen from the graduite degrees stat on emplyment rate and income 1 year and 10 year after completion of the degrees. Maybe the Machine learning and data science is just what i should go for?

@mr_engineer Looks exciting with a bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering, and then a turn with a master's degree in applied mathematics. What kind of work do you do now? I live in Denmark, where education is free + a little money for studying, i plan to not take on any debt. So the decision would largely be made from a point of interest, where i have found myself to be interested in the social sciences and hard sciences. Where i must say my interest in the hard sciences have grown considerbly in the last half years time, with an interest in logic, reasoning, limited information and the abillity to apply this in domain spesific instences to solve a problem, or give an edge to optimise the process. Thinking about it for some days, philosophy might very well be a thing i should study in my free time, especially with the lectures available online. I also almost only find it interesting when it comes from and is used in a spesific application. But any kind of math is much needed, so if it's pure math, physics, CS, stats or even finance, i should very well be able to get a job afterwords. It's then just more about what kind of job suits me best.

And I don't mean to point out problems to you you didn't have, but again, I feel it would be irresponsible of me. You're very welcome to point out potentiel problems, i could easily be blind to the truth, as i have been many times before, so it would probably be best to assume i don't have a totally effecient access to information, but the goal is to get as close at possible. A weak career is like having a weak backbone, so I don't recommend playing around with this. I fully agree, also why i want to get it as right as possible. It's also something i see as harder to change later on, since it can take so long, and when adult life fullt hits, then it's not really possible to to back to student life. What specifically do you envision yourself doing with the career you're considering? Be as concrete as possible. Real life actions and results. Otherwise we cant point out what your vision is missing. I can try to start generally, and then move onto cencrete anecdotes, i resonate greatly working quantitatively, and where i feel like what i do can be used and the application leads to actual practical differences. But not that it has to be simple as working in the trades. I also enjoy greatly being more technical and "nerdy" working on the same project and topic a lot of time for a longer period of time, to make it as good as possible. Getting into the details and try out new potentiel methods to find a way to do it better, calculate or deduce the effects to see what makes the most sense. I hope to have a cereer where i essentially use the same techincal methods, just diffrently, or add upon them as i gain more experience, and also as i gain more experience down the line gain new functions, or types of work do to, getting promoted or chaning titles. I already now can see that i like new ideas, and ideas only stay new for so long. I can also see this trend in both my parents, and why i also think something like math, stats, in a private company is a solid choice. With a good cafeteria, working with numbers on a computer, on diffrent important projects with my competent colleges, both nationally and internationally, and hopefully not to many meaningless meetings, while continuously learning more, to do better Would your life be miserable or passionate if you went through with your current vision? I think the career, or basic work part of my life would be very furfilling from this honestly very corprate type of work. I would of couse also want a good apartment, hobbies, sport, girlfiend and probably kids down the line, but thats a diffrent story. These are some basic questions you must know how to answer I have done my best and tried to answer. Hope it's readable, i am a bit dyslexic. numbers>words

@Reciprocality It's very rare i see anyone genuinely talk about what i would call "meta methodological considerations" often people talk about "bias" as something, someone else has. I would not say i apply knowledge from one field to another, i just had a connection between one fields problem and the solution onto antoher fields problem, and tried to see how the logic from the solution at one field, would make it work to another. To hopefully get closer to a new perspective which can help solve the existing problems. Now it has turned more into "making up" any reasonable assumption about how the underlaying world works, from an empirical and logical perspective, to deduce what the assumption leads into a system of how it works. This is where is would be very benefitciel to be able to model numbers, and be better at logic and epistemologi, to actually do this properly. And perhaps in diffrent ways also. Therefore i think of a career in this could be quite benefitcial. And a good question

@mmKay I suppose it definetly is career oriantation advice. And i am looking for comments on gaps in my reasoning, so i can hopefully get closer to what i actually should do. So please, feel free to do so directly. I have been recommeded the course before, and sure, i will look into it I belive, so fair, that the education i describe fits well into genetic strengh, master, enjoy doing and being meaningfull. I enjoy to a large extent to try and solve difficult problems the best they can, and reflect on method to optimise the process. I also find that i am pretty good at it, at least with all i have achiwed so fair. While this in itself can become a stage organge trap, i also must say that the problems i pursure change over time. Like now where the problem is about what to do with my life. While the general method i by now find to be about the same, just with more reflection more add ons. And a for now it would be greatly benefitiel to have better skills in math, logic and epistemologi. The only thing i can be very unsure of is impact, and to some degree values. I value application for now.

I make chat gpt make it stage yellow from spiral dynamics. It's quite good if i may add, it thought i sounded green, which i probably do, but do i also like this version a lot, if not more. The tourquise stage was a bit holistic for me, at least for now Throughout my teenage years, I was driven by a desire for achievement, particularly in terms of status and material success. However, as I've matured, my perspective has evolved towards a more holistic and systems-oriented view. Instead of simply pursuing success for its own sake, I now find myself drawn to understanding the underlying principles and interconnectedness of various disciplines. I'm fascinated by the idea of applying knowledge from one field to solve problems in another or to address gaps in our current understanding. This approach involves not only expanding my own knowledge but also exploring how different domains intersect and influence each other. I find it intellectually stimulating to examine the assumptions underlying different areas of study and to consider how they might be leveraged in practical applications. My interest in mathematics stems from its role as an axiomatic system that can be applied across diverse contexts. I'm considering pursuing a bachelor's degree in mathematics with a focus on epistemology to deepen my understanding of how knowledge is constructed and validated. Additionally, I'm exploring the possibility of further studies in statistics to enhance my analytical skills and ability to derive insights from data. While I've previously considered fields like economics or accounting for their practical, numbers-based approach, I now see the value in a more flexible and interdisciplinary mindset. A degree in mathematics not only provides a solid foundation for logical problem-solving but also opens doors to a wide range of applications across various industries. In essence, my approach to education and career development is driven by a desire to understand complex systems, think critically, and adapt to changing circumstances. I believe that by embracing a holistic perspective and continuously seeking out new knowledge, I can contribute meaningfully to solving the challenges of our interconnected world.

@r0ckyreed I know Leo has made some videos about god, i am jet to dolge into. But if you would like to, then feel free to explain the existence of a god. I am to large degree a pragmatic positivist, so don't really get it personally, but find it interesting to hear from others, what i can see myself

I really like a more academic approach to money, since there is so much "get rich quick" stuff out there. Benjamin felix and the rational reminder podcast is spesifically about Financial Literacy, investing, managing money, and also some softer episodes about the psychological effects of money. For a perhaps more day to day view, dave ramsay is often recommended. His advice is often fine, nothing speciel. Personal finance to a high degree mimics the same challenges that weight loss or gain has. It is about indput and expendature, if it's about income/calories in, or expendature/calories used. You have to make it such that the personal situation works for you. As you feel most comfortable, to find this you can always take up pre tested models of ideas, or get inspiration from people who have more insight than you about the craft. Hope you find it helpfull.

Well, about life purpose. I have found many topics interesting, especially those that have enabled new perspectives, and have introduced me to new ideas or made me think of general conceps for truth almost. Makes me think if it's possible to become a "Philosophy scientist"? I therms of actually making a living from it. In some sense Philosophy of scientist, or just turth seeking should be the most needed skill and profession of all, but dosen't seem like it is currently.

After finding actualized teachings and especially the videos on suzanne cook greuters theory on the later stages of ego development. Have i bagan to wonder more and more about how i think and do. Realizing i was deep in the pluralist and achiwer stage, on the sure brink to the next stages. but living in a local system where it was not seen as a real thing. I have then come a long way from a pure logical positivist, to today a much more nuanced person. I have achived a freat deal already, at the age of 21, been a national champ in a sport, and saved up the money to not needing to work at all during my studies. But where this has been done, i today find it ever more and more meaningless to do a lot of things. Where i today see it as i once badly needed to do thing to get what i wanted, i now feel like i have no real need to put effort into things. Since everything is contructions, but i am afraid that, that idea and sentence is also a contruction in itself. Spending my time on just furfilling my needs seems very primitive. The need of food, shelter, intimicy and so on, while it is important, i would like there to be more. Or just to feel like something is important to do, makes a diffrence, and worth while to spend my time on. From my achiwer stage, i can now see that i have learned a whole lot about strategy, and obtaining what i set my mind to. Very interesting to think about in a gerneral almost philosophical view. Has made me to almost think it's much easier to do what you want, than to actually know what you want? And perhaps what i really what, is to just think about what is important, not actually finding it out. But i need to decide on what to study, and do with my life? how?

What's going on with all the cheaply sold copies of Leos course on google? Thinking they should have been taken down?

I have not no. You are thinking of the 250 usd course? I am unsure about it. Leo has some pretty legit videos and knowledge. But the salespage seems like satire of a scam But it is highly recommended?

Alright alright. I have thought of taking english one grade higher, i suppose i should do it, even when there is a lot of focus on analysis of old litterature and some culture, while not having much focus on actual grammer, speach or being able to write directly. What do you mean by an effortless life? I suppose there isent as much stress, when the realization about no objective meaning and everything is interpretation has been reached. Designing my life around what kind of activites i would like, seems very achiverist. Obtaining goals, manipulation of the sorounding to fit your needs. while this can be seen as bad, it might as well be the right direction to go?