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At the Tripod, I went with Vision—the accumulation of all three pillars being developed, and a vision to do something with them as a service to the community. I love the pillars you mentioned; they will be milestones I will achieve using the Intellectual pillar, since I need to build a theory about it, and then apply it. A lot of the work would be on the Intellectual pillar, since it would include every goal in the Spiritual work and Consciousness work.

It is limited and finite, since it's a framework. But through it, you can seek to investigate all other principles of the Self-Actualised.org blog — and even that would be limited — yet it's a good, useful framework to holistically integrate all self-actualization principles into either the Physical Pillar, the Intellectual Pillar, or the Emotional Pillar. I am not seeking an infinite framework, but a finite and holistic system to help integrate all other strategies to Self-Actualise .

I wanted to ask your thoughts on using the Tetrahedron of Frame as a primary system for understanding and structuring internal strength, perception, and behavior. The foundational idea is that frame isn’t simply a posture or tactic—it's a core orientation toward the world. It’s not about being "strong" or "weak" in a conventional sense, but about what kind of frame you're operating from. Even someone who seems submissive or reactive still operates from a frame—it’s just one that may not be useful or self-directed. The pillars of frame—how we conceptualize, process, and react—are reflections of our deep narrative. Frame is not what we do, it’s who we are. This system proposes that we cultivate and fortify our value pillars: Physical (our embodiment and discipline), Intellectual (our ability to think clearly and independently), and Emotional (our resilience and sovereignty). I'm considering integrating this as a metaprinciple or primary structure in my framework—something like a tetrahedral model that balances and holds these elements in dynamic tension. I believe it could provide a strong, adaptable foundation that informs personal development, leadership, and resilience across different domains. Would love to hear your take—do you see this as viable for integration? or am I missing ssomsething

@Leo Gura What would you say is a system from which every concept can stem from ? - In Your Youtube channel , The 9 stages of ego development and Spiral dynamic seems like it ? -- The Idea that to be green properly , you have all other concepts we can think with to embody green or yellow or more . Am I making good point here ?

@Leo Gura Thank you for the information . this is so good . I appreciate you time

@Leo Gura What would be the difference please ? - Like what would the awakened / mystical leadership or sagehood be able to do that a consciouss leader can't ? - I really want a glimse if you can share .

@Leo Gura @Leo GuraDo you think the traits of a conscious leader, as you'll explore in your future episode, would integrate the most radical insights from your experience of God-realization, nondual states of mind, and the ability to access knowing through both being and a state of not-knowing? or it would be more structure rather than the content that this conscious leader would have .

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Hey Leo, You've previously mentioned doing an episode on conscious leadership, and considering how relevant this topic has become in today's world, it's been on my mind a lot lately. I hope I'm not intruding, but I wanted to share something before you dive into it on your end. I'm currently exploring this area on my own and have been reflecting on the best approach to deepen my understanding. I’ve been wondering: Would it be more effective to contemplate and derive insights from my own direct experiences—both the successful and less successful leadership attempts—and try to connect those with self-actualized principles? Or would it be better to start by reading and gradually gathering knowledge from external sources before forming conclusions? I'm leaning toward a more introspective approach initially before you upload yours

@Leo Gura The content you're sharing lately has been really engaging and thought-provoking. I’d love to know, from what cognitive and Spiral Dynamics stage are you offering these insights? I remember you once mentioned how Jordan Peterson might subtly push us into a 'stage Green shadow' without actually developing into a more post-rational stage, and that stuck with me. It seems like you've been growing really fast—I'm curious to hear how your cognitive and Spiral Dynamics development is progressing.

@Leo GuraYou made me think of something related to vibes and people's perception. Do you think this is why some introverted intuitives struggle to be believed and end up lacking social influence? It seems that, deep down, people have difficulty processing what they say because the vibe or frame they project doesn’t align with the relatable cues that extroverts often crave. Why sometimes , it seems like it's not about what you say , but you frame , the general context and cues you display which hooks people .

@Leo GuraWhat do you think when a person daydreams about specific scenarios where they're mocked or belittled by certain people? Could it be that their unconscious mind is creating these vivid images or scenes as a way of expressing how they perceive themselves—something they might not be fully aware of in their daily life? In these daydreams, they might imagine being criticized for their physique, being denied opportunities like marriage, jobs, or relationships, or even a lack of respect. What do you think this means, from your perspective

When discussing Jungian cognitive functions, it's important to note that everyone possesses introverted functions, even those typically classified as extroverts. The challenge for many extroverts lies in what Jungian theorists refer to as "looping." Essentially, they become stuck in a pattern where they only utilize two extroverted functions. This can explain phenomena like binge partying, engaging in reckless behavior, or seeking external validation through performance or external rewards. However, this doesn't mean extroverts lack introverted functions entirely. Many still experience an inner "psychic voice" or cognitive awareness, urging them to pause, reflect, and engage in inner work. This reflective process is essential for understanding the deeper meaning and implications of their actions and plays a crucial role in individuation—ultimately contributing to self-actualization and self-transcendence. Sadly, some introverts mistakenly believe that simply because they have a natural inclination toward their introverted functions, they are inherently good at using them. . It's important to recognize that not every individual expresses their type in a healthy manner, and this depends on their psychological maturity. If the two sides of a dichotomy become too imbalanced, a person may begin to exhibit the negative traits associated with each cognitive attitude or process, leading to unhealthy behavior and inner conflict. The stage of ego development at which a person is stuck also plays a significant role in how they express their cognitive functions. Different stages of ego development influence the way individuals relate to their functions, and a lack of maturity can prevent someone from fully integrating and balancing their cognitive processes. Additionally, defense mechanisms come into play, influencing how people cope with their inner conflicts. If someone is caught in unhealthy defense mechanisms, they may misuse or distort their cognitive functions, manifesting negative characteristics. For example, someone stuck at an earlier stage of ego development might rely on projection or repression, skewing their understanding of their own cognitive functions and behaviors. If the two sides of a dichotomy become too imbalanced, a person may begin to exhibit the negative traits associated with each cognitive attitude or process, leading to unhealthy behavior and inner conflict. I want to make it clear that I'm not invalidating anyone, like Leo, or your perspective guys . He actually energized me in a positive way to engage in this conversation. The topic of cognitive functions is fascinating, and I'm a big fan of the theories surrounding it—there’s so much depth to explore when it comes to how our minds operate and develop.

@Leo Gura Thank you . Good thought

I am actually intrested in your insights on this . Please share , some thoughts on this , Just something to make think more about it . How is it all a fantasy ?