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@Leo Gura Although it's stupid, couldn't this be part of a movement of American politics to the left long term? It's like how the movement through the spiral stages has many hiccups and tends to be non-linear. People get sick of the establishment, they vote for Trump, then they get sick of him, and eventually the country moves up the spiral. So Trump is in a certain sense the medicine the country needs, right? You said this in an old blog video if I remember correctly.

Interesting, I got the North Pole part but not the other one. I’m guessing it would take a lot of math to get that answer. Any thoughts on the nature of insight?

It would take 5 minutes. Look at my explanation again.

Quick Question: If it takes 5 machines 5 minutes to make 5 donuts, how long does it take 100 machines to make 100 donuts? Please take a moment to answer this before reading further. You may have seen this before or it may just seem very easy, but the truth is that most people can't get this right. The first reason for this is that as humans we like to see patterns and make connections that way. So we think: okay, I'm given 5, 5, 5 in the first situation and in the second situation I have 100, ?, 100. So obviously 100 should go in the blank, right? Let's think about a different pattern. 5 machines in the first scenario is becoming 100 machines, and 5 donuts is becoming 100 donuts. So the production speed and the amount of stuff that needs to be produced is 20x in both cases. Therefore, it will take the same amount of time as before, 5 minutes. If you're reasonably intelligent, you might wonder why someone would post something like this. Does the poster just have low intelligence? Well, the point is that no matter how quickly or slowly you understand what the answer is, there is a moment when that insight happens. That moment is pure understanding of Truth; it is the present moment, the eternal now. I'm not just talking about a math problem now- this is God, this is consciousness, this is Truth. What you'll notice is that if you ask this to people, sometimes they will just not get it even after you explain it, which you might say is because they're stupid. What is really happening is that they're locked into a certain state of consciousness where that insight isn't possible- just like a donkey will not recognize itself in a mirror. When you grasp the answer, you wonder how you could have been foolish enough to get it wrong. That's because consciousness is deceptive and you have fallen into the crocodile's mouth (to use Leo's metaphor), but when the crocodile looks itself in the mirror it loses its menacing teeth. Reality is constantly involved in this business. To see the illusion for what it is and be purified in the light of consciousness is to awaken.

This was mentioned in How Socialization Makes You Stupid. All we know from what you've said is that it's a loose, indirect way of thinking. It would be hard to talk about because it's so indirect, but you could give some pointers. If not oblique thinking, consider making a video on trans-rationalism (I'm guessing they are connected). It would make sense because you said in one of the recent videos that the updated goal of actualized.org is to get people to higher cognitive development. This would be a good supplement to spiral dynamics/ stages of ego development.

Chris Langan is on board with Leo in terms of reality being mental, but there are important differences. Langan's view of reality includes good and evil and he even believes in heaven and hell based on his CTMU.

It stands for "Cognitive-Theoretic Model of the Universe"

To add to what people have said, Quote 78 does seem poorly thought out. It's surprising to see this of Leo. The most obvious problem is what would be considered a lie and who would decide. Lies aren't always obvious factual lies, they can come in many subtler forms. Even if the lies are factual it's hard to prove that the person wasn't just misinformed. A department of lying in practice would lead to totalitarianism.

Like I said, I don't think there's a solution (aside from possibly enlightenment). My best advice is to fall in love with the mystery of reality.

@Ayham we're in the same boat. Its the dark night of the soul, I guess. There's no easy solution

Schopenhauer's idea of will is more about referring to the universe as one giant will, or consciousness (to connect it with Leo's teachings) Leo's point in the philosophy video is that you need to find out what is true yourself. If you think Sartre was a really cool guy, that doesn't have anything to do with finding out what is true. It just makes you more likely to believe his ideas without any real reason. Look up "spiral dynamics turquoise" on youtube. The inventors of spiral dynamics had him take it down, but it's still there on another channel.

How can we go about our lives when no one knows what reality is? We all just go about our days doing the most meaningless of things, caught up in our illusions, self-deceptions, identity, and utter ignorance. We privilege one part of reality over another: some of us like socializing over being alone, or the reverse, all of us have hobbies that we consider better than others, and our worldviews are of course always correct. In this forum there is a small island of 'spiritual' (for lack of a better word) people who want to go beyond this shallow ordinary existence. But even so, the most enlightened of us still go about day-to-day activities like everyone else, since the psychedelic peak only lasts so long. As the adage goes, 'chop wood, carry water'. If feels so random, like a joke the universe has played on us. We have been generated from a pool of absolute infinity and thrown into a limited human form. Yet few of us have ever even conceived of the possibility. As an exercise, try closing your eyes, then opening them and looking at your body? If you're able to think, WTF?!, then you get the insight I am trying to describe here.

Maybe some of you have heard of the classical theistic proof of God that was formulated by Aristotle, Aquinas, and a bunch of other philosophers. It goes like this in its simplest form: 1) There is stuff 2) Stuff came from somewhere 3) What it came from is God Now, by the way, try your best to disprove this argument-- I don't think it can be done, even though I made up the most basic and bordering on stupid formulation of the argument (but it is genius in its stupidity). But the key oversight is that all this stuff here, also know as creation, consciousness, or reality, doesn't have a source beyond it, and really God is the creation and the creator. The essence of this argument is a causal chain: a -> b -> c ; etc. The point is that there must be something at the end of that chain that is sourcing it. But what is it? The laws of nature, some material thing? Of course not. The source is the entire causal chain and its beginning and end; in other words, it is infinity. Reality is groundless, but at the same time it is grounded and it is the ground. Now let us apply this thinking to awakening. Where is the end of awakening, or does it continue infinitely? Is the realization that it goes infinitely the awakening? It seems that there could be a final insight, a final awakening that brings together all the others into a superposition, almost like when all the buildings fold into one another in the movie "Inception." The end of infinity.

It’s an okay movie, not that deep imo despite the title