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That's what I mean, this is most a forum about Spirituality, Self Improvement and such, its good that Leo put other Sub Forums on it too, so things can be discussed and learned, but to be posting and drawn into the Trump incident because it is "Drama" is anti everything that we are trying to do in Spirituality and Self Improvement or Awareness, even Leo himself is posting like mad on that thing, its nuts, its a complete drama shit show, the whole world it caught up in it, giving opinions and theories on what happened and why it happened, this is the crazy that I am talking about. I just bring it up as an Example, I'm not going on that sub thread or anything to check it out, but on other sites it pops up infront of me so it unavoidable in a way the crazy that is happening, its very sad indeed...

We all have to ask ourselves why we do what we do? For eg...Why are so many ppl posting on the Social/Political forum under the "Trump got Shot" thread? Its over 14.000 view and such, why is that such a big thing and drawing so much attention, each person involved with that thread should ask themselves... So what he gets shot and whatever, 50% of the ppl hate him, the other 50% luv him, i don't care about it, both him and Biden are bad choices, maybe it would be good if one of them would be taken out so someone with some sanity can take over, not that I am approving that being done by violence which is not acceptable, but in other ways someone has to do something! But why are You and any of Us posting here? I post here because I have no one else to discuss these topics with, and it challenges my Ego, and my understanding of things to read others perpectives and debate, and I like to share so that if someone gets something out of it, this world I am in and involved with becomes a better place because right now its not such a great place in many ways...

Oh No, now we know your on the wrong path!!

Its a common phase I think, I went thru that too, sourcing all I could to digest the information, I thought that flooding my mind with this sort of information will help the process along and channel my thoughts towards "Enlightenment" thinking loops, it works in the beginning, but sooner or later we have to drop this and go via the energetic route and fix that aspect, without that nothing really changes, you cannot really stop the mind from what it is doing, as the mind is meant to do just that, think and identify and figure things out, the content of the Mind is not in your control, but if You have a space btwn what is You and what is not You (Body/Mind complex) then the mind is no longer a problem. Link to Isha Kriya the whole process here...

The line btwn Sanity and Insanity is very very thin, I personally think most of the ppl in a way are very insane, I look around and see how we have structured our society and it seems very insane, as it is promoting chaos and lost souls, and I'm totally involved with it, but there is a space created btwn it and me, the insanity and chaos part anyways... I think using psychedelics can be dangerous when playing this game, one has to be very stable naturally in normal state to play that game, good Luck Man!!

Yes, I agree, these practices, as with Yoga, have been around forever, Adam talks about this, he explains it as Mystical Path or Meditative Path, and the Shamanic Path, Meditative path is slower but more stable, you won't fall backwards when climbing the steps, the Shamanic path brings You right there, but You fall back,, In my opinion one should follow the Meditative path first, build a very solid foundation of Well Being and Awareness, then if they want to try some Psychedelics to see the finish line per say:)

Adam talking about some tips about how to get your mind and body in the right state so that you can meditate and quiet the brain chatter... This is simple stuff, we neglect it or take it for granted but its the simple things done right that make a huge difference in Your Life, and it gets You out of Your Head space which many of Us are trapped in, just breathing right makes a huge difference, but everyone thinks they know how to breath right which they don't!! Adam is offering Free Online Teaching of Chi Kung/Qi Gong here --> Join our FREE online Qi Gong Classes https://www.adamchanqigong.com

I would slightly differ on this, we are not so different from One Another, that is a huge myth, yes we have different likes and dislikes, and some genetic differences, but most everyone is addicted to their phones, social media, drama and bullshit, and we all breath, bleed, think, dream, sleep, wake up, eat and a million other things that are exactly the same... Just learn to sit right, breath right, think right, settle ones emotions which we all have, we all have desire, like/dislikes, love and hates and such, so we are very much alike not the opposite.. there are already paths available that align with the differeing personalities out there, find one, try a few and find one that matches your karmic makeup and personality and stick to it..,

@Wizardking Listen, this is a common huge problem in the world, we are so identified with our Mind, Thoughts, Thinking, Intellect that it is making us Nuts! Do not try to "Understand" Spiritual ideas and concepts, as Spirituality is not a Concept or Ideology, its that simple...because You and most everyone else is trying to "Understand" it fucks them up, just work on simple things, first settle Your emotional stability, become Peaceful of Your own nature, Accept Now as it is, Live Now absolutely, Respond to Now, and for sure keep up with your Meditation, try Isha Kriya its 12 min and is very powerful.. Drop all thinking and analysing of what anyone says, Leo is too much intellectualizing of it all, drop all that stuff and just create Peace within, then Your on Your Way..

@Keryo Koffa FUCK YOU!! Psyche lol..My Chinese Zodiak is Monkey, so watch out for the Monkey:) Glad Your here and that we are all here and trying to live to Higher Possibilities in whatever way works best for each of Us:)

Yes, and the way he explains it, explains Truth, at least for Me there is no other like him, its simple yet complex but very understandable, and he is diverse in the methods he shares, its on an intellectual level (live Now, aceept Now, respond to Now and your there) and its energetic and more, but ppl will say that he is unique.. He says he is only sharing about 2% of what he knows, we don't have to know all of it, we just have to get the Bliss part of it settled then we are on our way naturally, its so simple and easy!!!

I would say anytime Your in a State of Awareness where Bliss comes up, that is good! It means Your on Your Way. Just stop thinking about it, and analysing it too death, that will stop the process completely and allow Karma to keep its hold on You. Karma is a sort of Conditioning and "Software" per say that makes Your Personality, Beliefs, and the essential condition of Your Life as it is Now, if You want something new and more Profound and to access Your Potential, then Karma has to be dealt with and set aside...

I agree with most of what You said, but I/We also have the ability to perceive what is outside of Us, yes it is not a Complete Perception, we are missing many things in our normal 5 perception capacity, if we were to perceive everything, we wouldn't be good at Surviving another moment, we would be too engrossed in what we were perceiving to be concerned about food or shelter or our safety, so nature has lowered it, but we can still perceive that there is LIfe outside our own bodies and mind scapes, we've all experienced it.. When I leave a building or go to sleep, the world is still existing outside of my own individual awareness.. We are Embodied aspect of Life, we are connected to Life and in fundamental essence we are Life itself (Life is not situational, it is the very force/intelligence that allows all existence and creation to happen, and non existence as well), but in this Embodied form we have the ability to have an Individual Experience of it, so we are like drops in the ocean, Enlightenment or Moskha is about putting that drop back into the Ocean, losing Individuality and merging with Absolute/Oneness...

For Creation and Reality as we perceive it via the 5 senses, we need for sure a past, this is what Karma is based on, the residual effect of all actions from the past, that comes up in the present moment and makes You into what You are experiencing right now.. No Karma no Existence, No Creation... The key to dealing with Karma is: 1)Live Now absolutely, that does not mean neglecting past/memory or future/imagination, just don't identify or live in those places emotionally, this is key, both past and future do not exist, only NOW exists, focus on NOW and Life Experience changes, but don't be stupid and lose all awareness of past/future..2) Respond to NOW Consciously, rather than react Compulsively, Responding gives You Free Will..3)Accept all that IS as it IS, this moment is Inevitable as it is right now, if You can accept it, then Your open to what may happen in the future, if you do not accept it, then your a slave to the past events and karma...

All this means is that Subjectivity is all that really exists, as all Your Experience and non experience if there is such a phenomenon, happens only within You.. But that does not mean no one or anything else does not exist, I can only say I experience "Others" to exist, that is all the proof I need.. Prove Your own existence try it, it won't work, anything You say is just a story to me, and visa versa, but I know that You are not in Experience of what I am Experiencing and the same goes for Me towards You.. There is so much going on in this world on Just a Human level, never mind everything else in nature and animal, insect life, that too think only "I" exist and that everything else is made up imagination is what I call Spiritual Narcissism, in other words You are going in the wrong direction to experience or think such things...

I can relate to what You said above! I'm not sure if its negative thinking to see the world and the chaos that is happening in it (Human related, otherwise the world/planet is just fine), or one is just seeing it as it is? I'm very much out and about in the world in my job on a daily basis, while I can see the beauty in the natural world, and how we as Humans have integrated into it in inventive ways, and at times there is beauty in that as well, I can see the craziness that is happening as well. I live in Toronto, there is too many ppl here, its lineups and chaos everywhere, You cannot go anywhere here where this is really any peace and quiet, maybe a few places, if You have an idea to do something here, 10,000 other ppl have the same idea and are doing it too, so because of that, there is chaos everywhere, I honestly feel we could do much better than how we are doing it now.. Canada is a huge country, why does everyone want to live in only a few places is beyond Me lol.. Walks in nature bring us intouch with Nature which is a sort of perfection in Creation, we are a part of that Creation too, so when in nature we instantly connect if You have some Awareness within You that is intense, if not then You won't feel it at all, too much thinking going on which is part of the path to Enlightenment, stop the "Compulsive" thinking, its not the thinking itself that is the problem, its the Compulsiveness of it that is problematic!

A Human Being is capable of Perceiving all of Reality as it is, its just we are mostly Unconscious, therefore we are slaves to Our Minds, our Karma and Conditioning and to outer situations and realities, we have no Awareness of our Inner Life and Experience or Actions taking place and our ability to have Great Clarity and access Free Will, because of this we see only what we need to see to survive another day and are distracted by compulsive thoughts patterns and addictions of all sorts and technology... but we can be more than what we are right now, that is where our Potential Is!

Yes agreed, in the end its all about what we are experiencing within Ourselves, its good to share and support one another:)

Yes, where all POV come from, everything is Subjective, and here on this forum we are only talking "around" Spirituality, not directly about it, as we can't talk directly about something that is about the Non Physical aspect of what Reality is, so its all Subjectivity here...

In my research and experience, the East provides more detailed and efficient methods and techniques, as well as explanations of how to Reach High Levels of Potential within a Human Being compared to other parts of the world, they may have it too but it seems more hidden... They also explain Reality in a more complete way imo.. Karma is not Imaginary, it is in all the systems of what makes up a Human Being and all Matter and Material Existence, without Karma there is no Creation. By Karma I am meaning all the effect of the residual action from the past, for a Human there are 4 basic areas of actions, Body, Mind, Emotion, and Energy action, how conscious one is of all these areas of Action determines how much of their Potential and Free Will is available to them, in my experience most ppl are less than 1% Aware of any of these actions within themselves.. What prevents us from naturally being Enlightened is that we are only provided survival skills when we are born in a way, or an ability to learn how to Survive, it is like learning ABC and 123, we don't know these things but have the ability to learn it via striving to learn it.. Once a Human Being has mastered Survival level of Living, they can go further, there is more Potential to explore, but it has to be strived for, seeked out, its not given to us naturally unless our Karma is there to allow it too happen (previous life's lived via a Spiritual Intention to Know and be Enlightened)

I would say there is No Evolution of Being, Being is already Established, all we have to do is Realize it, or become Aware of It, the evolution is in the Area of going from UnTruth to Truth in Realization, that is why we have all these Systems available to Us from the East, they allow this Realization to Happen when it is not already in our daily lives because of Karma or Conditioning of some sort preventing it from happening naturally!

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I would say Sadhguru is the proof, he's worked 20hrs+ a day for the last 35yrs or so, none stop, its because he is in constant Bliss, again this does not mean he has no sense of what is going on or is in some sort of trance state, he balances it out with Clarity...He did the 30,000km Save Soil campaign last year, he's in his 60's, as well as riding his motor bike in horrendous heat and cold, rain conditions, over night with no sleep at times, he did something like 300 press events, none of us could do this, why does he do it, he doesn't have to do anything... here is a video of just one of his years in review and the stuff he does...

Yes maybe... What I meant by settling is that we sort of get used to it, even in Bliss one still has Desire as Desire is inherent in Embodied Life, and with Bliss You gain Clarity, so when the "Pursuit of Happiness" issue is achieved naturally, you move on to higher pursuits, hence why I am here on this forum. When I am out and about on my job, I'm in public areas allot, malls, restaurants, all sorts of public places, I see ppl in pursuit of Happiness or Fulfilment in these places, they have certain looks, mannerism, they are so focused on what is outside of themselves that they walk into me at time when working, its a dead atmosphere, for me I do not want this sort of life, I want to experience more of Life, so that is what happens I think, Bliss settles allot of things for Us, so that we can pursue our true Potentials... When any sort of Suffering, or being below Peace level of Experience is happening then one will never pursue higher levels of Potential in Life... Sadhguru has a good saying in reference to Human Nature compared to other Life on the planet.."When Stomach is Empty there is One Problem, when Stomach is Full then there is 100 problems, this is the nature of the Human Being", most life forms their lives are settled when stomach is full, that is not the case with Us Humans!

I think most today cannot even imagine a naturally Blissful state of Being as a possiblity, we are so ingrained to believe and understand that "life is out there, outside of You, Experience, Happiness, Success is outside of You and You have to Find it and Grasp it, and Hold on to it for Life to be Fulfilling", its been conditioned into Us very strongly.. When I first started doing Yoga practices, Isha Kriya then Shambhavi Mahamudra, within a couple weeks of consistent practice, I was Blissed Out pretty well for a month or so and for no reason other than the practices just allowed me to be stress free, worry free, my Awareness was super enhanced and I just realized certain truths, it was really cool and great, nothing phased me, and I was working Security in a not so nice environment, lots of alcohol infused stupidity and drug use at this hotel I was working at, ppl said I was walking around with a big smile on my face lol... Then it settles a bit, You actually get used to it in a way, but its very healthy for Us to be in this sort of state, our Well Being is greatly enhanced... Life does not have to be an up and down emotional roller coaster, this is not good for us, and there is way too much instability in our societies today, Toronto is going nuts right now, shootings and murder almost everyday, stupid accidents and ppl losing it, its like Chicago now...