Ishanga

This place is weird, sometimes You guys come up with good quality responses and understanding, but other times its just way out there... First there is individual identity, it localized identity to this earth, your situation and karmic substance, this is why you are here to work this out, its about possibility, if no individuality existed then there is no point, and no one is "God", you have God like nature within You, but this word "god" is misused, and causes ppl to become Egoic when using it. Yes You are a piece of Creation and in some ways the Creator of Your Life, everything is Subjective, you only experience is within You, so in a way you are the center of the Universe, each night when in Deep Sleep this Universe does not exist in Your experience, but there are others doing different things and experiencing differently, so its much better to say that one is a part of Creation, Inclusive in Experience than to say they are God! Second this thing about Imagination and everything is imaginary, is total Bull! Something has to be there to be imagined, yes there is lots of Illusionary aspects to how ppl perceive and experience life, lots of shit is made up in the mind and mind is societies Garbage Bin, they are too identified with it and living in it, which gives one no perspective and clarity of Reality as it is, but its not imaginary by no means, what someone experiences is Real for them. Again I challenge anyone that thinks Life is imaginary to drop a Brick on Your foot and see what happens, no one seems to do this here because they know the result!

If You feed an AI psychedelics then that would be bad, it will think it is God, that nothing exists except it, and that life has no meaning, just go to the Spirituality forum and see what the ppl that take psycedelics on a regular basis say on a consistent basis, its basically what I wrote, same would happen but the AI would probably be more dangerous, and destructive..

I wouldn't say it is Utopian to want to have everyone supplied with their basic needs, plus compared to what we have today, we need grand ideas and ways of doing things that are very different from what is happening now, if things don't change soon this world will not be recognizable in 10=15yrs on so many levels... Jacques ideas didn't gain much momentum because the Consciousness level of the general public is still very low, ppl think Life is outside of themselves, that is why they are constantly search for it, but its inside of all of us, we just have to find it and have a way to do so, when that happens on a larger scale then Venus Project ideas will come about more easily, until then lots of suffering will be had...

These types of questions come from very over active Intellect. Wanting to know is good, but there is a limit too it, sooner or later it has to transform to an Experience, not a Intellectual breakdown of everything, Existence does not work like that I think, you cannot keep going smaller and smaller to find the answers, Science hasn't yet and its been at it for decades, the smaller they go the more questions arise, so its Fractal in a way... But You can Experience it, that is what Enlightenment is, experiencing the Reality as it is, but it cannot be explained in logical Intellectual ways, as you have to divide it up, separate it all and that is not how it works imo...

I watch ASMR shaving vids and manicure vids from Nigeria where they do it street style, not western style.. My work mentally exhausts me, lots on the go, deadlines and traffic to be concerned with and such city life stuff, so when I come home my brain is sort of fried, so I watch these sorts of vids because they are basically meaningless, they aren't about anything, its non intellectual, no thinking or analysing going on, just watching and listening and observing, like watching wind blow the tree branches and leaves around, its natural and soothing! They sort of bring me to a natural state of Meditativeness...

Without Karma there is no physical/material existence, no Universe, no Galaxies, No Planets and No Us in Human Body/Mind complex form...Yes Karma is past residual acts coming back to haunt us, allot of it is mental, but it is stored deeper but most of it is still physical in nature, even the most subtle forms of energy are still physicality in nature, so since we are not the physical, it is not our essence one may call it a dream, but for a dream to be possible mental and subtle forms and energy have to exist, so no us no dream at all, no individuality, no possibility of any sort of expression or dream, or maya or anything, so it is good we have this here, this sort of existence otherwise its no thing ness, no potential or possibility being expresssed, thats sad! When one says its all a dream, there has to be someone or something dreaming it!!! Because for sure Your dream is not my dream lol!!!

Karma is deep, its held in all the layers that make you Human, Body, Mind, Emotions and Energy, plus in the atomic level, elemental level, and so forth, so just because You have an "Awakening" doesn't mean its a permanent state of realization, it surely helps things along in life, better to have one than not, but we have this thing called Sadhana, Spiritual Work, its needed, very few only have one awakening and it leads to enlightenment, if that happens then it means in past lives you were very highly developed Spiritually already and it carried over in this lifetime!

Jacques Fresco already invented this idea, a world without Money, a different sort of society where AI controls the resources so that all get what they need and there is no lack in the world, its basic idea but very cool imo... The main problem today is greed is everywhere, unconsciousness is everywhere, and ppl do not know what reality is, this sort of "Resource Based Economy" could help, and allow ppl to find out what they really are and what Life is for, rather than being a Slave to the Dollar and Time..

The problem is the robot is not alive, and is programmed. Ppl, parents should be doing this job but ppl and parent are too messed up themselves to provide nourishing and empowering environments for children to develop correctly and well, so this is the sad part that a machine that has no life within it, no real feeling or emotion will or may provide this for children rather than the real thing.. Its a sign our society has gone to rock bottom almost.. Its like Religion, its a cheap substitute for real Spirituality or Traditions to flourish, Religion is like cheap psychology, its keeps ppl in check that can't have access to real Spirituality so they whole society isn't nuts, so they create false gods and commandments so ppl live via fear of this god and breaking the rules or codes. but with Spirituality one learns to experience their Humanity to high levels of Intensity, with that in place one doesn't have to be told to not steal, or kill or maim, they won't anyways because they see themselves in everything else...

What I shared was the explanation part, here is the one with details of how to do the Kriya lol.. This is a very Basic Kriya but powerful, the Shambhavi is more complex but he says it still basic in nature, and very powerful as some here have testified too, as well as myself!\

I'm just going from what I have seen or heard thru the years, ppl saying that they visited this or that 3rd world country and the ppl being there being nice, kind and generally happy, I've heard this for years over and over again, of course not everyone is happy, but generally it seem they are happier than we are here in the west.. I watch this Swedish Guy on utube, he travels alot, and when in India even though the pollution was killing him in Mumbia, he said the ppl were the nicest ppl ever and happy..it sort of confused him a bit, but this is what I understand of the situation, and in my experience is the truth!

Sadhguru explains this here, its Koorma Nadi, but its not really watching the breath, your watch the sensation of the breath, not that actual breath, he explains it all here...

This will only happen because the majority see love as Subject Object, ppl are capable of loving anything, ppl, places or things, so they use these things as stimuli to create the experience of Love within themselves, but Love is really about Yourself, if You know how to exert your free will and create what You want to experience within Yourself. But for now and the next couple of generations until the overall level of Consciousness Increases, AI love will become more pronounced, ppl will just purchase an AI Robot. program it as they please and think this is real love, very sad situation!

Completely Wrong! Your coming from a premise that Thought is Existence, no, Thought is just an overactive Mind, and you being Unconscious of the Mind and very Identified with Mind. Existence exists regardless of what You think or do or even if Your Alive, so this is completely wrong Ideology... What happens when You stop thinking (which for most is impossible) then you become completely Still and Silent, then Your experience is of the true Nature of Reality, Experienced via Clarity, its only because of the mind stuff and thinking process you don't already experience this, this is why we have Sadhana and practices so we can get this sort of Experience everyday... Other apparatus of Perception opens up when Still and Silent, other than our normal 5 sense organ perception!

I'm not sure about those, I watch allot of different ppl doing different things, generally I would say happiness levels are down overall, but ppl in poorer countries are for sure just as happy as ppl in wealthy countries, unless there is some sort of strife or wars happening of course... Also, do children have high IQ? No probably not but they are happier than the avg Adult for sure, just naturally happy for the most part, so happiness is not the result of IQ but of Experience, how are YOu experiencing the world...Children being less identified with mind experience it more freely...

My understanding is that plenty of the ppl in poor countries are very happy, they don't desire things as we do here in the west, they desire other things, but even if they don't have it they are still happy. I wouldn't say higher IQ means happier life, happiness is an inside job, anyone can be happy for no reason whenever they want, its just a matter of learning about this Human system and how to control it, and not being slaves to outside situations or other ppl's opinions... When it comes to Spirituality, once one is Joyful of their own nature, Enlightenment is much more in reach, as now "what about You" is lessened to a high degree and you can move forward in life full stride and not stuck in the past or some trauma situation that is unresolved...

You'll never understand the Mind because Mind is Societies Garbage Bin, you have no choice of the content of Your Mind, its there, your 5 Senses were turned on at the moment of Birth and have not shut off since then, everything is being recorded, while awake or in Deep Sleep, so to try to navigate it won't work, to turn it off won't work (why would you want to turn off something that took millions of years to evolve???), you just have to have a space created btwn what is You and this Mind of Yours. Space allows perspective and Clarity to prevail over anything, if Your deep in it (highly identified with Mind as most are) then you will never see it for what it is, so having space btwn You and Mind is paramount, as now You can choose when to use it and when not to use it, with no problems about it at all!

Yes agreed, but ppl are searching for pleasure/happiness outside of themselves, via stimuli to bring forth an experience within themselves, all experience happens within You no where else, so the secret is to find the way to create your own experience, choose how you want to experience life then create it each moment, then your pretty well totally free, no longer looking outside for inner wellbeing, this is the start of the Spiritual Journey because it stops the "What about Me" survival instinct from poping up. There are 2 main forces always happening in our lives, both are one, but seem separate, one is the force of Self Preservation, it builds walls and is protective in nature, the other force is to be Unbounded, Totally Free, Unrestricted in all Ways. The latter is what Spiritual Aspirants are searching for, the Nirvana, Moksha, to be complete connected and one with everything, for this too happen one has to drop the Body/Mind complex we are so identified with, and leave this realm. When "What about Me" drops, then You are truly moving forward in full stride, the start of this is being Blissful of Your own nature...

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Yes, I think this sort of objective for a person is what they call a Brahmacharya or a person on the path of Brahma or Ultimate Nature of Reality! Usually ppl like this isolate or go to an Ashram, that is why they are there for them to devote themselves to this, very hard to do in real world or everyday sleep, eat, work, then sleep again rituals, can be done but different all together, as You said it depends on ones objectives and goals!

I was agreeing with You:) Was just trying to use a modern day real analogy of what can represent "Ultimate" and "Relative" with Putin being the Ultimate and everyday ppl being used as cannon fodder to achieve Putin's goals, its absurd to say the least that one mans goals are more important than millions!

Ultimately is when Putin sending millions of young Russian men to the front lines to be killed to find out where the mines are and to clear the way for the main military and war machines...Its all about Putin and his plans.. Relative is You being one of those Men! Its all about individuality and their experiences of Life and what matters to them.. Big Difference and says allot when one uses these sorts of analogies..

If one wants to detach from society, and live off grind and find self sufficiency then for sure they can do whatever they want, experience whatever they want, but when someone comes on public forums and says this is the reality all else is falsehoods illusionary and such then it goes a bit too far, its out there per say.. One needs a balanced approach when living a Householders life, where they have responsibilities and things that need to be done, one in this situations can still be in Oneness Experience and do it all but their Sadhana is different from one that is Brahmacharya and not in a societal environment, and can totally dedicate their lives to Spiritual Sadhana and work... This why the Guru is important, and why traditions were born and passed along, so we don't have to Constantly Reinvent the Wheel every generation and start over fresh, we can learn from the past generations and get their faster, with less resistance and more Willingness and Ease, which is what we need in today's world that is full of Chaos and Resistance and nothing working right for the masses!

You can always tell when someone is Identified and Functioning from the Absolute level when they use these words allot in their posts! God Infinity or Infinite Imaginary Illusionary Nothing Exists!

I think what happens is ppl lose touch with Reality, by Reality I mean all things, all aspects, all dimensions of Reality, not just top level, Absolute level of Reality which is Oneness, Completeness, Wholeness, and where all Possibility and Potential resides, on this Earth, this planet, the reality of duality and materialism in which we function on a day to day basis, we can be intouch with the Absolute, while living here in our Body/Mind complex and still be One in our experience, those that have felt this via natural occurring, yogic methods, psychedelics sometimes so identify with it that it becomes everything, but this is a part of the "Illusion" or Maya as they say in the East, Maya does not mean something does not exist, it just means it exists but not as You are Experiencing it right now... First and foremost on the Spiritual path is to establish your Beingness, and bring Clarity to Your ability to perceive Reality as it is, not via grand experiences or belief systems...