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Free Will is NOT about controlling all situations in Your life, that is not possible, it would mean there is a God of the bible of sorts and that he is in control, everything is his will and we are just robots.. Free Will in basic terms is how You experience Life, what is the quality of that Experience, and via that you have more access to what it means to be Human Being, you can live via the Human side which is more about Survival and accumulating ppl, places and things, or the Being side which is Spirituality in its essence, Beingness is Being here Now, where Life is totally, abiding in Bliss and Aliveness, Intense experience of the Reality that we are in, access to all possibility and potentials on the physical, mental, emotional and spiritual levels that we have access to, you can live like a vicious animal or be a godly Saint that is the choice You have, that is Free Will, its not about physical actions and manipulations and control, that wouldn't work in a society and set up like it is here on this Earth! If You have all the control, what about Me?

Everything Your saying here is based on the past data or information. now for physical existence to be here as it is materially, this is true, in the East they call this Karma, Cause and Effect, there is a residual affect from all the previous actions being performed, and in many cases allot of what is happening within Us is based off of this, but this is mostly concerned with the physical and emotional/mental aspect of what we are, now for all of this too happen something more fundamental has to be there, otherwise how does all this occur, how does the body come together, the brain form, the intellect develop, emotional and mental aspects? Existence goes from Gross (which is all of the above) to Subtle realms, we are not the Body or Mind, all of that is accumulated, the Body via Food or Earth, the Mind via 5 sense data input, the Intellect we are born with via evolution and the Grand Intelligence allowing all of this too happen, this is super important as we always miss this part, what is allowing all of this too happen? What we are is this Grand Intelligence but it is not based on Past or Memory, its pure and what some may call magical, this is where the Free Will resides and is for sure available to all of Us, we call those that have access to it Enlightened Beings, physically they are bound, but within their experience there is no Time and Space because they know they are not the Body or the Mind where all limits, bondages and Karma reside!

Getting Old forces You Inward, You lose physical ability, You lose cognitive ability somewhat, You lose ppl in Your life, family friends either move away or die, so you lose all that you are attached too, with that nature is saying "Go within" find what is Real and what is not Real, but of course our society and the ppl in it do not see it that way, their super entangled with everything they are Not so loss is felt very deeply which leads to suffering for most ppl, I saw my Mother suffering mental and emotional pain for years before her death, regrets, sadness, loss, it was all there, but if you were to look at her life she had a great life, did lots of things, raised a healthy family for the most part, good married life, travelled, and very social... So its all a matter of perspectives, when Young its about striving and accumulation of ppl, places and things, ego is strongest, then we get wiser and let things go to find Truth!

Exactly, what's up with That!

OMG he's using a Cane, do Enlightened Ppl use Cane's??? Sadhguru should have thought this threw, now look at him, he has to use a cane, how can a perfect person be using a cane, what is this all about! Now my whole outlook on him has changed.... Lol:)

So when these questions of Why, why am I here, why is there life, Am I deluded, What is this all about, it comes from a place of misery, or total unAwareness, no intensity of what Life is via experience, and the intellect which is always past/memory or future/imagination orientated takes over your Awareness and Experience, then misery or suffering is the basic nature of experience, because Life is only Now, and when that is missed misery is the only thing that can happen when all the distractions and drugs start to fail... Intense Bliss, via drugs or done naturally, will show You the intensity or miracle of Life, it happens Now, and that Now is basically Eternal, what we are doing now that we shouldn't be is focusing too much on what happened yesterday or what may happen tomorrow, completely Missing the Now! The Real question is, is this condition that most of Us are in, was it manufactured or is it just our basic nature, I think it was manufactured, the powers in this society/culture want us to not be Enlightened, not be present moment aware, but to be past/future aware and miserable, so they can profit and control the masses!

Intellect, what most think of the Mind, divides and separates whatever data that comes into Your Memory and tries to make sense of it for You to live another day, it works great when things are alot tougher than they are now, but when everything is at Your doorstep (think Uber conveniences and comforts that we have today that we never ever had before), and at your finger tips you have access to most all the information and entertainment you can ever want, the intellect then doesn't have to focus on surviving another day, it focuses on what You are identified with, whatever it is, nation, sex, spirituality, duality, enlightenment, god, infinity, reality, gender, race, religion, etc and it divides it, separates it, and compartmentalizes it all so its logical and linear and understandable for the avg person, but is this reality? No it isn't, because everything is connected, just think of all the actions going on to make our planet and atmosphere, and ability to live like we do possible? Its more than a trillion actions happening a second, never mind what is happening every second within Your own body, cellular level, molecular level, atomic level, just think of it, what is allowing all of this happen? Can Your mind or intellect break it down enough for you to understand it? It'll never happen, or it would take a million+yrs of living to figure it out, so this why taking about certain things other than what You have directly experienced doesn't work or make sense when You talk about, but You can experience it!

Insight into something within You that You did not have before is an Awakening, Perception of it is akin to Insight, what You did not perceive before but now You Perceive is Awakening. Enlightenment is when a defined Space between what is You and what is not You is now within Your Perception and Awareness, as much as You perceive the Sun, Wind, Rain, Pain, Pleasure that you do now. Awakening is the beginning of the process, when I read Tolle's New Earth book, I had an Insight into my Ego, it was now within my Perception, that never leaves You, I recognize the voice in my head and the constant judgements going on, mixing with certain emotions at times, making unstoppable at time or controllable at times, karma plays a role here, your tendencies which are all over Your system, within Your Body, Mind, Emotions and Energy systems, basically control You and Your behaviour, thinking and way you live Your life, and what comes into Your life via where You take it.. Awareness is like another sort of Intelligence, when You get it then Enlightenment happens, via that You feel very Blissful, even Ecstatic at times!

If You had no Ability to Remember or Imagine, would time exist for You? Think of the past as just memory because does past really exist? Same with Future, its just Imagination, does it exist now? Neither exist now, but what does exist Now? Now is the only thing that exist now, so if You had no memory/imagination then Only Now exist, problem is this sucks when You as a Human are trying to Survive and live another day, without either of those faculties the Human Race would not exist today, so think of Memory and Imagination as survival tools, when highly conscious or on drugs like shrooms and lsd, you lose that sense and that allows you to really live Now, and appreciate it...

First everybody using this sort of language, 'Triggered" Lol, I'm just responding to your post about how you have something against him, I don't care one way or the other. I just think Your being way to critical, I personally have never looked at him as being perfect, and many times I have thought why doesn't he take a break, it even may be a bit too much exposure but its not in my hands, he can do what he wants how he wants, he has free will to do that. I agree that some are into the personality of "Sadhguru", I don't think he wants this to happen but it does, so what to do about it, maybe that is why at times he talks harshly to ppl, calling them stupid or that they do stupid things, its a way to bring them down in how they view him in a way, but the methods work and work has to be done by someone. Personally I think he should go back to the ashram and take a month or two off, let things cool down...

You want to be Meditative, or at Ease all the time, as a baseline State, now if this is not happening naturally, and cannot be initiated spontaneously at Will, then something has to be done (the stress response has taken over your base state, too much thinking probably too), action or "doing" has to happen, the methods just clean the slate so that naturally You are at Ease and peace, Bliss, Health arise like the sun does every morning! Try Isha Kriya its 12 min and pretty effective, its simple and easy, if You want more try the Inner Engineering program by Isha/Sadhguru, it works wonders!

Sadhguru, far second or third Sri M, I like a guy named Forrest Knudsen a Kriya Yogi American, I like that he shared the technical aspect of it, more details shared. I like Osho too, he taks are cool, as well as David Hawkins and Tolle for reading material!

I still get that too, in today's world with the hussle and bussle, rat race, it is hard to maintain a sense of Meditativeness in everyday life, its like Your getting poked by needles all the time lol..but I find thru the practice and remembering the basics I mentioned keeps me in mostly peaceful moods, and when I do go a bit nuts like in traffic, I don't stay there very long... Here's the practice

@TheSelf Also, Isha has a great support system in place, ppl to talk with and such about practices and such, there are other in the Isha world that are quite advanced as well, besides Sadhguru, other Swami's and such that are under him, so that is there too to help those in need!

Well I think with the Inner Engineering program and the way it is set up with the Shambhavi Mahamudra, there shouldn't be any "Problems" since it s a slow and steady approach, the idea is not too have "Grand Experiences" right off the bat, you will have more pleasant experiences, I was having laughing fits after a couple of weeks for no reason, and lots of peace of mind since then... Now with him helping or not helping, I haven't experienced anything extraordinary, but from what he says he is available to You always, obviously this means he is available in a non physical way, he says he has initiated more ppl that he hasn't met than he's met, so he may be working on another plane of existence or something like that, I don't believe or disbelieve this stuff, its just what he says and that's that... I just look at his life, how he lives and I see that something massive is up with him, I can't describe it, but he's got something that most other do not so I would like a piece of that if that is okay lol:) I don't believe he is in it for the $$ or fame, or power, some of the things he does doesn''t make that stuff happen so why do it then??

Your making a big mistake making Assumptions about what Sadhguru is doing, without really investigating it, now if You can't travel I posted something for You to try, but You won't because someone else says it won't work... Does Sadhguru have businesses? Yes for sure, he's got lots of mouths to feed, hospitals to support, schools to run and programs to provide, so money has to come in, that doesn't mean the stuff doesn't work, or that what he is saying is bogus! Just try it for 3-4 mths, see what happens, open Yourself up to it (this is not about belief or brainwashing, think or investigate the technique and method of it, rather than personalities and judgements about what someone is doing that you have no idea about)!) and if You experience difference stick with it, if not drop it, its your LIfe!

Basically what Your trying to do is discredit him, for some reason you have something against him within, probably unconscious to You, it really doesn't matter, what I or You or anyone thinks, Self Love or whatever, he'll do what he wants, some will like it others not so much, then leave, in the end if he has left this place better than when he arrived then the job is done, I would say he has done that is spades! This Self Love talk and how it shows something about him, you really have to take a look at it, Self Love in my definition is Egoic, Love is about Two, are there two of you within? If there are then that is a problem...He's for sure very Loving, this is from his experience within and the Bliss he feels, its reflective in his actions... Yes yes I'm obsesssed with him and this or that in my mind, there is a reason for this, he makes tremendous sense and his methods work, that's it..,

As he says in public video's and in person (I've attended 3 programs with Sadhguru, 3 to 4 days for each one), Its just You and Him, plus if You can stop identifying with Space and Time, its available anywhere all the time, so its not "watered down" or less than any other method lol...I've researched other kriya methods, when I watched or read what they did it all related to shambhavi mahamudra and such, plus there are other programs/practices that Isha offers that are after one learns Shambhavi, so in my experience Shambhavi is very effective and powerful, you will feel its effects soon after you start practicing, and with the other tools offered in Isha's Inner Engineering program, one is on their way,,I will say its not a fast track, but its slow and steady so that one does not fall backwards at anytime!

Start off here, watch this video with Sadhguru, he explains it all on how to get started, you can go thru it all online, he is available to anyone that is willing, that is the important part, if Your Willing, it is available to You!

Like someone said before, with Real Kriya Yoga, the Guru initiates via transmission, he is the fire, you are the spark from the fire and want to become fire yourself, without the Guru's fire you don't exist on that level, so in the old days there was not much talking and convincing like there is today, this is because ppl were not as intellectual, they were too busy surviving and working to stay alive, so they were more grounded, and the Guru could easily transmit Spiritual Knowing to them, so in Kriya it is like this, Learning from a Book or video is not good, dangerous actually! and Switching methods is not good either, find a Guru then stick to that method for a long period of time, see what happens!

From my research everything started as a Spiritual Practice or path of sorts, then it got organized and become more about Belief than One's personal Experience, then with Organization and Belief as the standard things get political and Religion is born. Now some may say that the larger Spiritual Org's look exactly the same, in some ways they are, but those places maybe more about popularity and bringing in more $$ than Spirituality in its truest form... With practices and yoga and such, in my experience it not about faith, I don't have faith in the practices, I just use them and see what happens, of course for all of this too happen I have to have an Interest and motivation, this is similar to learning good Martial Arts, if you look from the outside it all looks like crap and useless, but when You go indepth with it, and learn from a qualified master then practice it, it works like magic, its the same with High Quality Sadhana and Yoga methods, this is not the same as rituals where the ppl just go in, do something with no mindfulness or intention and then leave the place/ritual and no transformation is taking place, its like ppl driving to work on the same route everyday they lose focus and awareness of what is going on around them...

This idea that there is a "Caring" God up there somewhere, that You can have a Personal Relationship, is a solace for ppl, its make ppl feel wanted and protected but its not a solution! It boggles my mind how so many millions of ppl believe in this crap, just goes to show the general consciousness level of the planet, very low.. Using the word God is the wrong word to be using, its got too many insinuations, and beliefs attached to it, better to use word like Intelligence or Brahman, or Shiva (which means "That which is Not") and that we are basically this, in human form, spiritual beings having a Human Experience per say, and we can be intouch with this (if You are Your In Bliss, which looks like Love to everyone else) if we strive for it, some have to strive harder than others, depends on their Karmic makeup!

Just Inquire about this, Why do we always ask WHY? If You were Blissed Out, would You ask Why this or why that? So find out where the question is coming from! Mostly in today's world I would say its coming from our over active Intellects and Addiction to it, we are way too identified with our intellect, which in basic form is a survival tool, we are given an intellect at birth it just has to be feed data to function, if we didn't have it and since we are so weak physically compared to other life forms, we would have died off long long ago..As well our wanting to know comes from our most fundamental Desire which is to expand endlessly, be Boundless and totally Free, its just we are using the wrong tools to get to that point! Now Intellect has to divide and separate to figure things out, it dissects, now think of the person You love the most, would you know all about them by dissecting them? No, probably not, so this inquiry in this form via Intellect will only get us further away from what is Truth or Reality. Now if You Include everything as a part of Yourself, then You will know, the one You love the most, you Love them, feel Love for them because You have Included them as a part of Yourself, now You experience Knowing of them and a sense of Oneness, so this happens when another form of Intelligence arises within Us, Awareness, via Awareness our natural Intelligence, which is the same Intelligence that created everything arises within Us, and we feel Oneness and Knowing, connection with Everything, this is the idea behind Enlightenment!

Also he is bring up this fallacy about "Flaws" how we are all flawed and this and that, this comes from a higher up conceptualization or conclusion of Perfection, so there is a judgement going on here. One can say nature and creation and what was there before creation is Perfect, then we have us as human beings and what is going on around here on Earth, is this perfect? No it is not, ppl suffering is not perfect or is it? So again there is a paradox here, and basically if one goes down this rabbit hole of intellectualization they will get stuck in a loop for sure, you can't figure it out and why would You! Just realize that there is a life beyond survival, eating, sleeping, reproducing, working then dying, and that potential is within Us, its a matter of Realization, it starts with establishing yourself in a stable emotional and energetic balance, then going on from there, but the choice is within Us, we can stay in survival mode or go beyond it, that is it...Sadhguru is here to help us with this Choice and Realization if we choose to go in that direction!