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Two things come to mind when I read this. First, is this a natural thing or manufactured thing, the fact that most ppl are medium to grade flight or fight state, which I think is the case as well... Secondly, I don't think we have really advanced much since cave man days mentally, we've locally (like in India) made great strides in human development and spiritual development, they have figured this Human Mechanism down to its tiniest point of reference, everything there is to know about what it means to be Human India has discovered via their Spiritual Systems, but it hasn't gone out far and wide around the Globe, so since that is the case, what we use to gather like fire, shelter, food and safety, we replace it with fame, fortune, success, entertainment, distraction, sex, drugs, rock and roll, all the things that will keep You trapped in Cave Man Awareness... The key is to know there is more Potential to be explored, if that fascinates You then explore it and see where it takes You, I think it firstly takes You too a Peaceful Experience naturally!

Yes agreed, the situation has to be right for it too blossom, You can't talk or explore this stuff if Your just surviving everyday or living in a war zone or stressed place, it won't happen likely then, never know though!

Some are for sure more capable of it, we are all capable of it, but some have an easier time accessing it, but with some good quality Sadhana it becomes easier, and with Guru's to help as well even easier, that is why they are here...

We are both fragile and strong, that is why You need clarity to navigate thru life with ease, again Suffering is anti Clarity, no clarity if Your Suffering inside Yourself.. So its a step by step approach, first be Peaceful of Your nature, then Clarity will naturally come to You, then Life Potentials open up naturally as well, then Enlightenment is not far now!

Are you on your deathbed right now? If not then Live Life while you can to the fullest, suffering won't allow that too happen. Be strongly Aware that You are Mortal, that Your Body will die someday, this will wise You up and force You to live life to its highest possibility each moment, if it doesn't then You are not strongly Aware of Your Mortality.

The identity part is correct, but this is a hardwire thing, its there for us to allow the species to continue on, we are so weak physically compared to other life on this planet that we need strong identification with body and mind to be able to use our superior Intellect to live another day and eventually rule this planet..But it takes most ppl great Striving to overcome this hardwire issue, hence Spiritual practices were created! But we are capable of more, to identify with more than just the body or mind, to what we really are, to identify with Life itself, that will cure all ability to Suffer and via that one lives to their highest Potential!

This was part of his master plan, his death made him that much more famous and thus spread his teachings and sharing's, simple strategy:)

Go to the "Leo Gura, Suffering and Awakening' Thread, see the different perspectives.. Each perspective written is what the person understands and/or experiences as Truth or Potential, its varied, so that means there are varying Potentials present, when one buys into it that is their truth... There's threads like these on a daily and weekly basis.. Will send You a DM with bank account info... Oh yeah, You will come back with a discrediting reply based on Your Perspective, that is another Potential, for that I ask for another $1000 on top of the original offered:)

Yes,,,

The potential is there within all of Us, but most never exert their ability to choose how to feel, or their Free Will, so that is why ppl are yo yo's emotionally, slaves to what is happening outside of themselves! If You had a choice how would You want to feel on a daily moment to moment basis? Think of the person/s that You love the most, how would You want them to feel on a consistent basis, Joy or Misery?

I'm a Human, Your a Human, we are all Humans here, so it is universal, regardless of outside Situations or genes, or things of this nature.. We are more alike than different. Our varying ideologies and concepts about things are not basically surface level stuff, deep down we are all basically the same, we all Desire, we all Breathe, we all have emotions, want things, dream, and such, so on those levels we are very similar.. Again the society has brainwashed ppl to identify with their individuality and uniqueness, this allows them to sell You things, but the truth is we are basically the same fundamentally!

Do You know everybody in the world, or is this just an idea or concept You have?? Most ppl's happiness comes from Outside Situations, nice house, lots of money or success, or fame, but its transitory, it comes then goes, that is not real Happiness or Joy.. Ask Yourself, if ppl can be constantly in a state of Depression, I've experienced it and have seen others like this, why can't they constantly be Blissed out? Then ask Yourself which is more Empowering for You, Depression or Bliss, the answer is obvious!

I've experienced both sides of the coin, Suffering and Joy, I choose Joy, so what I am saying does not come from any Spiritual types, but personal Experience..

Exactly, Sufferinig is a Choice, Pain is helpful up to a point, self inflicting pain is no good, although it brings intense Experience to one's life, it disempowers You overall, where as Joy and Bliss enhance Your Life tremendously!

If "Positive" emotions exist, the opposite has to exist, so the range of emotions are just Potentials, the Human can navigate this range and consciously choose which emotions to feel on a consistent basis, if You neglect to choose, then Life is being lived by Accident and Your Compulsive in nature, a virtual Slave to outside situations and ppl around You. For a Human this is not living up to Your Potential at all, its living way below it. Spirituality is about Living to Your Highest Potential, so choose for Yourself how You want to live Life, High Potential Life, or Low... The problem is the society has brainwashed most ppl to believe that Suffering is Inevitable, and a part of Life, it is not...

That is one way of looking at it, a certain Potential, there are other ways and potentials of looking at it, choose for Yourself what Potential to allow to arise within You! If You say something is impossible for You to do or have, then that is Truth for You, others may say that it is possible, for them that is their Truth. Choice makes all the difference.

There is no Good Suffering, Pain can be called good for us because it sets up our limits of our bodies and minds, but Suffering in any way is disabling and disempowering on all levels!

No, Pain is but Pain and Suffering are not the same, Suffering is mostly mental, You bring up the Pain from the past into the present Moment, ppl relive painful experiences over and over again in their minds, this is suffering that no other life form experiences as much as Humans do..Other than torture or recovering from an accident of sorts, how does Suffering happen?

All of it has to do with our inborn Desire capability, we all want to be MORE than what we are right now, but some do it ways that in the end will disempower the process of actually BEING more. Going after sex and money, it will eventually disempower You. Going after Enlightenment (which is what Spirituality is about, Spirituality is about Experiencing a dimension within You that is beyond Physical (Sex) or Mind (Money/control/power), and allowing You to Experience God/Absolute/Oneness/Completeness and that I am not the Body or Mind), so that real Potential arises within You...You'll see that most all that go after Sex or Money soon feel lifeless, because they realize this is not Life itself... Pain is useful up to a point, once it gets to that point of not being useful (when it turns into Suffering), then You have to use another capability to allow Potential to arise within You, staying with Suffering will for most keep them Suffering while here Embodied on this plane of Existence...

Yes, which is why its key not too identify with opinion, belief, draw conclusions and discuss too much these topics, it will eventually lead to egoic mind entering the situations and conflict! What I said above is not an opinion, its proven, as can be seen on this forum!

Don't Believe anything, Don't Disbelieve anything, find out, in the case of Death we will all find out one day! Until then they say one can find out while Embodied and Living as we are now, so I explore that, I don't know actually what happens after the body dies...

Well all of us are full of Potential, by choosing to be Happy naturally, I am choosing a certain Potential that may lead to other Potentials. In my Experience, suffering emotions like anger, sadness, anxiousness/depression (have experienced them all) are not empowering for Me, they lead me to less Potential being exposed in my Experience, but others are able to choose what Potentials are experienced, if they want the suffering ones so be it! For Me I want Joyful Experiences, as I said to Princess Arabia on another thread, with Bliss/Joy as Your Natural Experience the Road to higher Potentials is smoother, with Suffering the road is bumpier, I prefer smoother roads:) Plus Suffering Emotions are unhealthy for the Body and Mind, causes more problems to arise that have to be dealt with, I know no one that wants to consciously feel sad, angry, depressed or anxious...

Each perspective on any subject is just a Potential, we can choose what Potentials we want in our lives. We are here to explore and or choose Potentials I've Realized.

Both are Intensity via the Emotions, but one is not healthy for the Body or Mind and the other is, on that level it is relevant!