Ishanga

If God is Absolute, then there is no Discretion present there, its only found here in our Human Mind and Intellect, which is needed! First we have to be Lost, but within is the ability to be Found, that is the game, so here Discretion is present, which means farts and rainbows are different, that is the beauty of Life here, there are differences, uniqueness, Individuality, but underneath it all it all comes from the same place, so that is the other game to find out where this place of sameness is...

You are here to determine this on this level of existence and within this realm, that is why we are here as Humans, to find our Awareness of Consciousness or Source Intelligence and live the Potential is provides You via that Awareness, without Us (and possibly other forms of life elsewhere), then what or how is Awareness possible? How can Absolute be Aware of Absolute without duality and karma not being present?

In the video The ppl in the program were newbies as far as I can understand, not long term practitioners, so yes I agree after 30yrs of serious sadhana if your still on the planet walking around (unless You make it so and have some sort of mission in mind like Sadhguru does) then something is wrong, you should have dissolved by then..

I agree with Inflow, tone down the Shambhavi practice, do some Hatha Yoga as well, do some contemplation too, just because Your Bored doesn't mean You should do psychedelics, only do it if you already have a stable base, lots of these ppl are regular daily users, so be careful where You get Your information and advice from, someone that needs to do it daily or on the regular, or someone that doesn't and has the same experience.. I posted a thread of someone that has been in Isha for over 30yrs, he was there in the beginning, he knows Sadhguru personally, they had programs ranging from 50-700+ppl and they were all in Bliss in the end, its the real deal it is just we allow our situation to control us rather than us controlling our inner situation!

I had this thought today too, sooner or later You realize all this talking doesn't really mean anything or gets one anywhere, in the beginning because I don't have anyone else really to discuss this interest we all share its sort of cool, then the drama's start and disagreements and so forth, but then after awhile that is not it either and it seems to be a bit of a waste of time...as it happens on all the forums I've been a part of in regards to my other interests,, I try not too really limit my time here, mostly its for entertainment and to occupy my mind before I go to bed or work lol, and it brings forth my ego complex when ideas are put forth that are contrary to how I understand things, so it makes me contemplate about it and figure things out in a way, but even that only goes so far, sooner or later the shit has to become a real experience of some sort in one's life and that is not happening from posting or being on the forum.. For sure as a psychedelic resource this is the place to go to explore the how too's and how much of whatever substance one wants to experiment with, if and when I go in that direction I will for sure use the info shared here and ask questions!

Sadhguru talks about this sort of stuff allot too, its practical day to day stuff, simple things like how to use Your Mind correctly, how to Sit, Breath correctly, ppl think we have this naturally, we don't many ppl are doing the basics wrong, the society teaches it wrong or no one taught us how to do it right, and because of that most of us are messed up in many ways.. Sadhguru's approach is creating a Blissful atmosphere first, with that in place everything about You, all Your capacities and capabilities, mind/body complex is amplyfied and improved.. Stress destroys everything and most ppl are under tons of unconscious stress daily, it takes it toll, just imagine if all of the Stress was not there, how would life Be? Probably 1000% better overall on a practical level, Mind too, you'll have more access to it and what it is really capable of when Bliss is in place as a natural occurrence..

No, I wouldn't say this is the right definition, at least how I interpret it. An aspect of God or Source Intelligence as I like to refer to it, is in everything, but dog poop is Gross material, from poop though comes flowers correct? So that is how it sort of works... Funny thing I was just thinking of this very topic today lol, not poop but the word Divine and how it relates to everything else, again as I've described before, everything goes from Subtle to Grossness, what we have on this Earth is various levels of Grossness, poop is much more on the Grossness side than Oxygen, but both are Physical in nature, they have atoms and molecules and such, but Your Thoughts are much more Subtle than Oxygen, and Dreams are more Subtle I would say than thoughts, like the Sub Conscious Mind is more Subtle than Your Conscious Mind and so forth.... But what is Divinity on this Earth, Consecration is the act of making something that is Gross in essence into something the is Divine in essence, from Gross to Much More Subtle nature I would say, a high level of Subtleness I guess could be considered Divine in nature, a basically Dead thing become an Alive thing is a simple way to put it.. Everything we can sense with our 5 senses has atoms in it essentially, but not everything we can sense is Alive, so there is a big difference there!

This Youtube Channel popped up on my Home Screen, its a new one, its about the People Involved with Isha, which Sadhguru created back in the early 90's, the first two videos is an interview with someone that was there at the beginning, after Jaggi's/Sadhguru's Enlightenment, but before the actual creation of Isha, the Dylanalinga, and the ashram where it is Now, he talks about many things from the Beginning times, with lots of old videos and pictures to go along with it: - How he got involved with Jaggi/Sadhguru - the Difference between Jaggi Vasudev and Sadhguru - the creation of the Ashram in Coimbatore in India - Jaggi/Sadhguru display on numerious occassions of Siddhi Powers and such Mystical Phenomenon... - what went down during the consecration of the Dylanalinga and such.. - what is Life like Now and his relationship with Sadhguru.. - Catholic Father compares Sadhguru with Jesus... much more... Thought to share it for those interested in how things got started compared to where Isha is today, very interesting stuff... Its in Indian Language but has very good subtitles!! Part 1 - part 2-

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Fate is only a Reality after the FACT! That means after the moment has come, then it was fated, as each moment is Inevitable to be the way it was, before the moment happens, its up in the air, anything can happen, when it comes to Interior Experience within Yourself, Your totally able to control it and that is the basis of Free Will, what is happening outside of You situationally, the best you can do is 50% control, unless Your a billionaire then You can control much more than that when it comes to your situation around You...

Yes we do, in the context that we can determine how we experience life within and our general destiny, most ppl are living via fate which is living by accident, like walking around a room in the dark, enlightenment is turning the light ON! Free will is our basic make up, we just have to strive to access it..

No this is not true, but I think it may come up in a court case if You hurt someone badly in a altercation, which is why I avoid that stuff at all cost!

Jiddu Krishnamurti Indian philosopher and orator is the more famous of the Krishnamurti, Jiddu one is anti Guru and anti System, even though he did talks with thousands in attendance giving advice lol, he is very wise, more of a Intellectual than a Guru imo... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiddu_Krishnamurti Bruce Lee was heavily influenced by JD Krishnamurti, his whole Jeet Kune Do Martial Art is based on this...

Yes very much so, it has all the ingredients to take You all the way, the concepts shared are priceless and the Shambhavi Mahamudra is very effective and powerful...

Well when You love something its easy to train in, so that was the motivation for me, I just took me over for a long time, not so much nowadays, but for many years all I could think about was Kung Fu Fighting, but I'm no Fighter, just luv'd to train in it and explore the skill set:) Before that is was Tennis, nowadays its Yoga and Spirituality and staying alive in Toronto Traffic!

Umm in Chinese Martial Arts, they have levels rather than belts, in the first system I'm highly ranked but no longer associated with them, in the other one they didn't really have ranking, as it was a closed off group of sorts, they trained in parks and garages lol, but were very good and highly skilled... I stopped teaching when covid hit, but want to get back to it, but have been teaching since 1990..

I like system and methods to things, when it comes to Spirituality I haven't found anything more Effective than Sadhguru's approach.. I remember when I was training hard in Martial Arts, I had trained in a system of Chinese Kung Fu called Wing Chun, there are many variations and methods to this one style, so I had learned one version of it for 18yrs, I thought I knew what it was all about, then I travelled to another instructors place far away from my hometown, and got blown away, his method was very different and very effective.. So I trained in that method for another 6yrs, and about 3yrs in a training partner and I had a conversation, the thought of "Could we figure this stuff out by ourselves" entered our minds, and the answer was NO, we needed someone to show us and teach us how it worked, how the training method would lead us to a certain skill set, so since then I like methods and systems, the abstract stuff I dabble in for entertainment mostly:)

There are Guru's and Enlightened Beings for sure always on this Earth at all times, we may not recognize them as Enlightened, I assume most of them stay quiet and just are the example to others to follow by, that is as well a good way to teach, simply by example! I don't buy into this thing of "we are all so different" maybe so on the surface, our likes and dislikes, our personalities are different, but go a bit deeper than those surface things and you will find most ppl are pretty well the same, just at differing intensity levels and such. The Ego luv to feel very different, and to tell stories of how different we are... We all have Needs & Wants, we all Want to be More than what we are Right Now... Just see how many ppl are so addicted to their phones, social media, drugs, alcohol, gambling, its like most ppl have been programed lol, so in essence we are essentially the same, only on the surface do we appear different! Yes some of us have differing level of Physical, Mental, Emotional and Energetic, Creative skill sets, and its cool that we do, imagine everyone being the exact same on these levels, it would be so boring here lol, so uniqueness is something to be in amazement of as well...

I agree for the most part, in the end its up too You, its how Willing You are to the process of it, part of it is becoming a Devotee of the Guru, this is very very hard, but there are many examples of ppl today being very gullible to the tribal thinking and so forth, so it happens, but true real Guru's are rare, in human form that is, everything in a way is a Guru, but for practical purposes for Enlightenment sooner or later most will need some sort of guide that can help one along the road, no super athlete has gotten there all on their own, the majority have had some support along the way, but of course there are the rare few that have done it completely alone, this I think has to do with their Karma, they did lots of Sadhana and preparation in previous lives to make it happen in this one... I think each generation has some, its nature's way to make it a possibility so they are always there, one just has to find them or they come into Your life when needed, like they say "The Teacher will arrive when the Student is Ready" ...

The Guru works on many levels, it depends on many things, factors and such. For eg at certain programs from what I know, during initiation to certain practices the Guru works on the Energy level, they can influence or adjust ppl's energy, fix certain chakra points and such, esoteric stuff yes, but they've been doing it for millennia... Its sort of like standing next to a fire, You get Warm, if You go too close You get burnt, but if You have the right distance and awareness it keeps You warm when its cold outside, so the Guru is like that in metaphorical ways.. They can read Your Karmic makeup, this helps allot, as well see where the Energy blockages and such are, so in many ways they help, they can even give You the experience like a dmt trip, but not for long as it may damage Your system if You stay there too long...In today's world they can also give You concepts, simple intellectual tools that can get You curious, in Sadhguru's Inner Engineering program the first 6 lessons are just this, things about how time works, the mind, the influence of Sound/Mantra, what the meaning of Life is, and its essence too, practical things that create more curiosity but as well give You things You can use right now...

There's a saying that says "You already are Enlightened, You just don't Realize it Yet!", so I am more on this side of the coin. I believe we are full of Potential, the highest Potential for a Human Being is Enlightenment, which is Full Awareness of the Reality and its Nature and You being basically It! Meditation is too general of a term, but Sadhana is more appropriate, it basically means Spiritual Practice, and there are many available to fit the various personality and Karma types out there, nothing has to be invented or reworked for the "modern person", its just a matter of finding which one works for You the best, that is one of the jobs the Guru performs, they tailor the Sadhana to the Individual... Its purpose is too not make You Enlightened, but to allow Enlightenment to be Realized, there are many things going on within You right now that is preventing this Realization from Happening, Sadhana takes care of all of that, when that is done then Your There.. It can take 10min or 10yrs or 10 lifetimes, that is up to You, if You do it on your own it will probably take 10 lifetimes, with a proper Guru maybe within this lifetime.. Once You start on some serious Sadhana your Karma will ramp up very quickly, what that means in simple terms, what You normally experience in 10yrs, you may experience in a month or two, what You normally experience in a Lifetime You may experience in a year, so it depends on how the Guru sets things up and lays the foundation, some do it via what I call the Bliss route, they make You Blissful first, then that smooths the road, others do it differently...

Your mind will tell you to seek symmetry, to pursue thoughts, to engage and create drama around them. Don't engage! Let go! easier said than done. Today we discuss a few topics related to this idea. This video is taken from one of our live qi gong classes. Adam discusses this common feeling among many men. Want to learn Qi Gong? Join our FREE online Qi Gong Classes. https://www.adamchanqigong.com

The Only thing we have Control over is How we want to BE within OURSELVES, this comes from being Conscious/Aware of what the Reality is, via that we gain Free Will, or the Ability to Respond vs. Compulsivity or Reactivity, so in reality we can only control what is going on within ourselves, everything else that is outside of Us we cannot control completely, if You have 50% control then Your on a good path lol, but otherwise outside situations are random and very influx... But How Your respond to it all is totally under Your control if You want it too be.. But I understand Your situation, have dabbled in having my own business and doing things on my own in this nature, it can be very frustrating and exhausting, the thing we have to ask ourselves is is it worth it, is it giving me Joy and am I doing what I luv to do, if not then for sure suffering will come of it...