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He talks about how the process of Knowing Life is, how most ppl are not stable enough to really go thru the process of Knowing Life while here and embodied, and that it takes plenty of preparation work before the real work happens.. We are all layers upon layers of karma, of things that need to be worked out, but we have highly tuned up and alert but conditioned Intellects, everything on this forum is Intellectual, ppl expressing ideologies about all sorts of things, this is helpful on a tiny level only, because we are far too identified with our intellects and what we think about things, this is minor realizations, it is prep work only! The Real work sooner or later has to happen, it can kill some ppl, but it has to be done otherwise same old cycles happen, we are worse off in many ways than we were before the industrial revolution and tech revolution, we can all destroy ourselves in many more ways today than ever, but no Awareness is really present...

Your Correct but Incorrect, there is something to "Get", that is until there is Nothing to "Get", it is a circle.. Bruce Lee said "Before I learned the art, a punch was just a punch, and a kick, just a kick. After I learned the art, a punch was no longer a punch, a kick, no longer a kick. Now that I understand the art, a punch is just a punch and a kick is just a kick", Life is cyclical, the only thing is Awareness of this cycle, that is the only thing we can do as Human compared to any other life form, and that is a sort of Action, Being Aware, then the cycle shifts. Awareness is another form of Intelligence for lack of a better word, its not really a Doing, one cannot make themselves Aware, they can just fix the atmosphere or inner situation in a way that Realization of Awareness blossoms by itself, like planting a flower, other things have to happen before the flower blooms, there is no planting of seed, then flower instantly appears, so in that is a "Process" and that is where action and Doing is, creating the situation for it to happen naturally.. Lots are UnAware, and via that we have a mixed up corrupt world, systems of dysfunction and suffering for billions of ppl, something has to be done, if Nothing is or has to be done then we are doomed, we have to deal with these situations, Body and Mind and Emotions and not avoid it by saying Nothing is to be Done, no one can just do nothing for the most part, if they could then for sure things would transform, but they/we can't, so action has to happen...

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Good Post! I think his 3 pillars in the IE program of This Moment is Inevitable, This Moment is all there Is, and Response Ability is the best way to have a "Friction Free" as You say, I call it a Stress Free Life which is the foundation of any Spiritual Path, if Your always Reacting, being a Slave to outside situations, then Enlightenment is not in the cards for You! Peace and Ease have to come first, then it will happen most naturally I think!!

that's not real joy, the murders and evil ppl of this world are not in joy, they are in delusion, they feel pleasures but that is not joy for sure..they can't be, as when one is in joy they see everything is connected, everything is basically no different from them, if that is so then how can they be evil...

Well Said.. Lots have a mis understanding of Karma, its complex for sure, the key is to not creating more karma in this lifetime, and burn as much as you can of the karma already allotted, if one does that then Life opens up for sure...

Yes true, its less likely to to bad actions when one is in Bliss, when Your happy then everything looks brighter, purer, and more real, the opposite is true when Your suffering, so to be highly Conscious means Your more intouch with Truth and Reality, and hence more Blissful..

Without Karma (impressions of residual actions from the past) there would be no Planets, Us, Universe or anything physical, it allows physicality to exist, and because of that we have what we have here on this realm of existence, the game of duality, karma, free will, expression/experience exists for us to play out and choose how to respond to it and be within ourselves...

He says if You can Joyfully Accept the Consequences of any action You take, do whatever You want to do, but if You cannot Joyfully accept the consequences then be mindful of Your actions.. Is this advocating do whatever You want to do? I don't think it does, it just clarifies the karma issue and what it means... It doesn't matter what anyone thinks of anyone elses actions, ppl will still do what they want to do and shit will still happen, that is their Karma to deal with, not for us to judge it too death and suffer it..

Since Sadhguru was mentioned, the way he describes Karma is that it is action, for Us it is the residual action acting upon us in the present moment, Action is in 4 areas, Body, Mind, Emotion and Energy, each moment since the day we were born there is action being created, the residual result of all those actions is Karma, there is also the karma from the previous lives coming up now as well.. Karma is not reward punishment system, the Universe/God/Absolute does not have a care about anything actions taking place by any life form, but as a Human Being we are the only Life Form that can be Conscious of this Karma and do something about it.. So a person can do bad things and get away with it, but that person doing Bad things and enjoying it, what is their state of BEING to be able to do these sorts of Action and Enjoy it? Probably its not so good, their probably dealing with some craziness and such in their heads, so that alone will be the pay back, it will get them sooner or later but there is no force out there dealing out justice, if there was then no one would be Responsible for their Actions and if that was the case the world would be even more messed up than it is Now...

This is an easy one.. With Deep Sleep and us waking up, this is a natural process built into the system, i don't think it is thought, it is karma, or built in software that is on many levels that wakes us up and gets us moving (if we don't move we die), and its not the same as using the analogy of "Being Asleep" compared to Wakefulness in regards to Consciousness/Awareness of Reality and what we are, this is much much deeper. There are tons of layers to what You are, and its all relative to say it simply.. Being Conscious of Yourself means You know what You are and are Not, I am not the Body or Mind, so then what was there before the Body/Mind so that a Body and Mind are here now to use?? What is the fundamental of what You are so that any accumulation and gathering occurs so that You think You are something other than what You are? This is an identification problem, and it comes naturally for Us since we need to be identified with our Body first so that we have the Will to protect it and feed it and take care of it, then we identify with our family (as an extension of Yourself) so that we do the same with them, and on and on it goes, we are way too identified with way too many things nowadays I think, but never with what we really are, which is a non physical aspect of what makes up everything.. The questions of "Who is Aware of the Dream" and such are Good Questions to ask and inquire about within ones self, but how to Inquire, how to find out without thinking too much and once again mis identifying with something You are not..there are methods and teachings that help one with this stuff, the key is not too identify with the methods and teachings, just use them as tools, drop them when what You want to find out happens...

Greed is an aspect of the Desiring Process we all have within Us, its You wanting to be More of than what You are right Now, but with Greed its an part Intellectual and Emotional Desire, You compare with others, then want what they have and go for it, its okay and natural, its the Entanglement involved with the things acquired, success, money, possessions, fame, whatever, that is the problem, if those things disappear You suffer it.. No one can really say what is too much, I personally think someone like Musk being worth $200 +billion, is a bit too much for anyone person to have that much wealth and power that comes with it, especially when there are ppl that are suffering homelessness and hopelessness, all due to economic disparity and such,, Identification with something You are not is the main problem in life, this causes so much craziness and suffering in the world..

An Answer means a Conclusion of Sorts is being made.. When Ppl like Sadhguru or other Mystics/Guru share their stories it is not for one to then Believe in it, nor is one too Dis Believe in it, its for one to be made Curious, they should become Curious as to why such a person would say such things, then via that Curiosity they Seek to Know, and for True Seeking to happen one has to drop all ideologies and concepts and philosophies developed about Life and Reality and truly Seek, this opens up Your Willingness and Receptivity to aspects of Life and that will lead You down the right path to eventually Knowing in a way, Liberation and Enlightenment for sure..

the causal body has stored karma in it, that encapsulates the bliss body and so called Soul or Atman (you allotted Life aspect within You), this is all that goes with You, so its an evolutionary process. Why this is the way it is I do not Know nor have I heard or read of any explanation, I only guess that Absolute contains all Potential and Possibility, via an Aspect of Oneness/Completeness, so therefore we have to exist somewhere, duality has to exist somewhere, Consciousness has to exist and be experienced/expressed somewhere, I think that somewhere is here...so we play out this game of duality, karma, Consciousness, Free Will, Embodiment, etc so Absolute can experience itself, as well its an expression of a certain Potential in Existence..

I read recently on this forum, in this section of the forum a death Threat to Trump, a literal death threat, not sure if it was taken down or deleted or what, but if stuff like that happens then for sure it will be shut down for allowing that sort of content to stay up and the person not disciplined... Nothing is going to happen, those that say something will happen are delusional, they are ideological nut cases...

Yes that is possible to, all of it is possible, but it can also lead to Curiosity by which leads one to Seek, they become a Seeker which for most ppl is where the path starts, but if Your a True Seeker then all knowing has to stop, You cannot truly Seek to Know if You think You know something already, Your inherent intelligence will stop functioning and working, then You get lots in philosophies and ideologies and non Truth or Awakening.. "I do not Know" if a wonderful way to Seek, it opens up Your natural Intelligence (curiosity traits), that allow You too explore the full Potential of what it means to be Human..

The Basis of Human Existence is Pleasurable Experience, first it is done by satisfying the 5 senses, You eat something You like, You watch something You like, You smell something You Like, You listen to something You like, You feel touch something You like (sex), once this is done for awhile You get Used to it, explore this Desiring process, distinguish what is this You and the objects that affect Your You experience.. Then what happens as we age, or it should happen, we begin to lose those things that brought us pleasure, the 5 senses begin to fail or deteriorate, so this forces us to look deeper and within Ourselves for Pleasure or a more solid base for our Pleasurable Experience be it Peace, Happiness, Joy or Blissful experience within, there are many practices that allow this too happen. The opposite of all of this is pain which can lead to Suffering, if Your Suffering all the time then the experience is to end it, so its all relative, if Your Joyful of Your own nature, then this is allow more Potential to come into Your Perception and Experience, if Suffering is happening this Potential never comes into Your Perception and You get stuck in the Suffering and living below Human nature in essence...

Everything has a beginning, for Us is today's world with Today's mind it needs knowledge first, think of it like a set of steps, first You have to step up to the first step, You can't go to step #10 first, so its like this,,in the end identify with Ignorance because that is the basic quality, we will never "Know" everything about everything, its not possible, but we will always be ignorant, Silence is later on like step #7...all of it leads to Enlightenment and Liberation..

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Caves are good for a certain amount of time, isolation is good (ever try those isolation tanks where the salt water is body temp and your floating and its completely dark and sound proof? I have their cool for relaxation and re setting), but its not a total solution all the time for all ppl, it depends on the immediate needs of the person, some need it, some do not... I look at dealing with everyday situations and ppl as Spiritual Tests, they bring about experiences within You that bring attention to certain karmas and tendencies, if You observe them well You find out allot about Yourself and create a space btwn what is You and what is not You, that is the first step on this path..

You say this is just belief, then ask another question, is his answer also going to be just another belief?? It makes no sense communicating this way, all communications are a sharing of beliefs and experiences btwn ppl, lol, no one is asking anyone to believe or disbelieve, its all about understanding one another on a basic level...

This sort of discussion has happened before on this forum, and is sometimes plagued by differing definitions of words... Consciousness has two Meanings, One Meaning is that Consciousness is akin the Brahman or Absolute, it is the very source of all Creation and Non Creation, what I call a Grand Intelligence and Awareness, its not localized or personified via any God... Then the 2nd meaning is how Aware are we in daily life (how Alert or Perceptive are we) and as well how Aware are we of this 1st sort of Consciousness or Brahaman/Absolute in our own lives and what role is plays in our lives and all living and non living things.. We sometimes are juxtaposing the meaning in our communication, using one definition when meaning the other and so forth which causes confusion to those reading...

Yes its very nice, she's something else for sure...It takes hard work and skill to do that sort of dance, it reminds me of martial arts, certain arts have similar type movements as the way she is dancing, they say all martial arts trace back to India, since Bodhidarma travelled to China and from that Kung Fu was created which is also said to be the birth place of all martial arts, maybe India is for real...

This is what I am talking about.. There is no "Benevolent Creator", there is no Creator that cares or doesn't care, at the core of Existence/Absolute there is no meaning, things just are...Meaning is further down the rope or layer, its on our level/realm, meaning is self created, and is important at this level of Existence, but there are levels.. Don't think there is something/someone somewhere caring about You or anything, that will lead You to insanity for sure... All You need to do is care less about the shit that is going on in the world, and be the best version of yourself, whatever that is and how You see it, I'm sure once You achieve that, your ideas about "Best version" will evolve...this is what it means to be Human and have Desire, once You get something you want more, and more and more, what You want is to be more than what You are right now, ultimately You want to be Boundless and Free, that sounds a bit like Absolute to me..

Sadhguru's Daughter is an Indian Dancer (Radhe Jaggi is a Bharatanatyam artiste (It is a classical dance form recognized by the Sangeet Natak Akademi, and expresses South Indian religious themes and spiritual ideas of Hinduism and Jainism.) based out of Chennai, India.) When Covid hit, Isha almost went bust, there were no programs going on and it was hard on the Foundation to raise funds to support the organization, there are some 4,000 full time volunteers at the Ashram in India that have to eat and such, plus the maintainence of the place, and the ashram in the USA and what is happening there, plus they do medical support for a ton of villages in South India and other programs that require money to support that effort, never mind the Spiritual programs and such...