Ishanga

Well its a free country, believe it or not You are doing the same in Your own way, we all are, its all a cult, I'm just spreading what I feel is truth, so are You, its all in the range of Potential, Your not wrong, I am not wrong, its just Potential, You chose which Potential to cling on too and go for it, I'll do the same, Karma will reveal what happens! p.s. what is Leo doing on his blogs and video Youtube sharing???

People are focusing too much on the Personality of Sadhguru, he is self creating it for a specific purpose, from what I have heard, in the super advanced programs he is different from the persona You see on Utube and at the lower end programs like Inner Engineering and Bhava Spandana.. Focus on the work, the action being done, the ppl he associates with and the sharing of the methods, now for sure with the amount of ppl that have done the programs some will not find it effective, its just a #'s game, a certain % will find it useless, and He addresses this by saying move on then, but the key is too try it out and to do this You have to be open to it, not come into it right off the bat with a bias based on personality problems...

No enigmas or fantasies here, I've been involved with Isha since 2010, did plenty of research on them, and have done the practices, so its all personal experience, nothing to do with worshipping or looking up or down on someone, he's no threat to me but a welcoming gift that I was able to connect with Isha and Sadhguru.. He's definitely more than just a "Man", his physical feats alone prove that, never mind the mystical stuff!

Maji is western mind thinking, Guru/Disciple relationships threaten Western Mind thinkers, because their Egoic in nature, but in the end this sort of relationship makes things happen faster.. I learned this in Martial Arts, there are too many that learn a little then think they are the Teacher or Guru but are way off base, so I learned from very good Masters and stuck with them for long periods of time, and it was well worth it!

Get back to the basics, Your too full of characters, ego and fantasy stuff brought about things You think You know, and psychedelics I would assume based on what You have shared here.. Go out, deep breaths each morning when You wake up, stretch your arms above Your head at the edge of the bed when You first get up, clean up in the washroom, have a cool shower to wake up and energize, do some asana routine for 15-20min, then get clear, don't have any technology on, just be clear for 5 min the first week of doing this then increase this time span as the weeks go on, in a few months you can be clear at will for an hour easy, then if You are not working get out of the house and walk around, try to enjoy the simple things, the fresh air, the nature, the very fact that your heart is still beating and you can breath and walk and think and do stuff, set up some simple tasks, writing, cooking, cleaning, don't sit around and think yourself to death that is what is killing You.. don't watch videos all day or come here all day, that will make it worse, do some activity, take a nap after lunch, make things simple and relatable again.. Get out of Your head, your too attached to it...

I remember watching this podcast with this guy from Dairy of a CEO and Sadhguru, and this guy is thinking he's a great success but he can't stay away from his phone, he mostly thinks about the past or future, has anxiety and is emotionally floating daily, and Sadhguru just put it out on the table how to BE and this guy thinks he was there already lol...

lol, you think these guys have more experiential knowledge of the Universe than Sadhguru? Your hate for him has really blinded You:( Its okay if one doesn't appreciate his approach to Spirituality or Business or his Lifestyle, no problem there but come on!

we are not dolphins

The Playing Ground is set up perfectly for all creatures and living things, but for us Humans we have choice as to how to Experience it, as perfect or not perfect, because we experience it as not perfect the situations in this perfect playing ground are not perfect as well, so for perfection to be in place all levels and layers of have to be perfect, starving kids, war, torture, suffering everywhere is not perfect situations, that is why solipsism is narcissistic, only a narcissist would believe that life is perfect when this stuff is going on...

Who today besides Sadhguru is sitting down with Scientist, Neurologist, Teachers, Religious Leaders, Kids in Universities all over the world, Business Leaders, Political Leaders, Farmers, Rural People, Spiritual People, Normal People, and their all asking Why questions and curious??? List them then we debate it!

Truth is not in what he says okay, its not in the words, the circus, its in the Experience that can come about via his help, the Experience of a Higher Consciousness within, but he has to play the game, there is no lying or truth saying, its just marketing, he set it up this way to be socially more acceptable, in the beginning this was to make sure the Dylanalinga was completed, now it is to fix this broken world then needs so much fixing!!! So circus has to be done in this day and age, money has to be raised, online youtube has to be on going, circus circus circus

This "Wanting to be Themselves", how do they determine what "Themselves" is? Its usually identity around body, mind, concepts, desires.. which is mostly false, picked up things, they desire things they were brainwashed into believing they need, to be special and unique and exclusive so that a certain feeling of Superiority (this is good for survival) comes up, in the end its about Pleasure, all of it is a form of pleasure seeking, you want to feel pleasure anyway you can, and avoid pain as much as possible, its a daily calculation, for too many feeling superior, unique, I stand out am special gives them a sense of pleasure if even for moments a day...

Yes I can agree up to a point, I don't believe anything Sadhguru or Osho says, but I don't dis believe either, what is there to believe or disbelieve anyways, its just the personality playing a circus game by which they claim to be playing to have more ppl involved in raising Human Consciousness, the game or circus is just recruitment! Saying its toxic is a bit extreme, just look at it like watching a comedian or a good documentary on something, its either interesting to You or not... I learned long ago that when it comes to stuff like this You have to experience it for yourself, I've used his methods, they are very effective, that is all, the rest of this stuff is just stories, and I share his stuff here because I live in an Unconscious world and its troublesome to deal with, I would like to see it more conscious and he's the best source for this imo...

He's like Bruce Lee, but Bruce Lee was public, there were others like him but not publicly known, I know a Guy, Adam Chan, he has some a high quality Youtube page up, and has helped allot ppl, he's a top level martial artist, just as good as Bruce Lee imo, but not very popular, and now he shares Spirituality too as he went thru the method of Taoism in a serious ways for 3yrs and it cured him of his physical aliments that almost killed him and he's never been happier and it has improved his martial arts skills too, but he's known in neich circle only, whereas Bruce Lee was world wide, Sadhguru is like Bruce, others are like Adam, there are out there but You'd have to really search for them or they are just totally unknown, but their presence balances the Karma of the world...

If that is what You think that is okay for You:) For Me it is not that way, so that is all that matters for Me:)

I think its fascinating too, and I think its possible all the Siddhi stuff, our human potential and capability is way more than what we are seeing generally in the world and what is promoted to us culturally as what our potential is, but I don't concern myself much with what his personal capabilities are, I think just witnessing what he did with Save Soil, what I saw of him when I was in his presence, and such says enough for me to say he has something going on that most do not have going on..so that is enough for me, and his methods work and are very effective for what there are there for!!

this is more of a "YOU" problem than a Sadhguru problem, only YOU care...

Judge his actions and what he has created and the effect.. Here is some of what he has done btwn 2010-2020, he has been doing this sort of work since 1999, so other than a few short breaks here and there, its been non stop public action like the video reflects since 1999, before that he taught his first yoga class in 1982 and the Creation/Consecreation of the Dylanalinga Temple which was allot of work and such, so he been on and doing intense action since 1982, 42yrs, if that doesn't prove authenticity then I don't know what does?

There is Hitler the Personality, the talking, the sharing of his philosophy and such, then there are the actions he did, the orders he gave and the result of that, so look at the latter, the action he did, the orders he gave and the result, not the talking.. Do the same with Sadhguru, Osho, and others, ignore the talking, look at the methods shared, what where their actions, what was the affect?? So far it looks like Sadhguru and Osho have had a much much greater positive empowering affect than Hitler, so there is s difference...it depends on what Your focused on, Your focused on the Personality, I'm focused on does the stuff work...

Most all of them say the samething, what they say is not important, that is just circus, what Sadhguru says, Osho says, Krishnamurti says, its all circus, it is just that some share okay methods, some share no methods, some share Awesome methods, the indivudal reading or watching them, has to decided what to do with it, use the method, try it out then see what happens, don't be concerned with the personality of Sadhguru, Osho, Krishnamurti or whomever, just use the methods, see the results, decide what to do next, is it working for You for Your intentions, needs and wants/desires or not...

She'll say its a projection You are placing upon Her, and that it means nothing to Her, but there is anger in her statement that is easily seen, why the anger? Why the responses in the first place, why the 10,000+ posts, replies, threads and participation if nothing is here, nothing is being done, no one is here to do anything??? My beef is that this sort of understanding is dangerous, ppl can do what they want in their own personal lives, I don't care, but this is a public forum, ppl read all of what we share, when they read that sort of stuff, its dangerous, they don't even see the anger or suffering in their own lives, don't give meaning to it, there is no meaning in the first place but the posting continues, so its egoic, narcissistic and anti Spiritual in nature, but you cannot tell them that or care what they say because if You then You fall into the same trap they are in, ego rises and belief identity systems form then we are just as off base away from Truth as they are...

Yes so true! Duality is not opposites, just both things existing at the sametime, if Love is created and exists then Hate has to exist and visa versa, its a circle not a separate entity or thing, its just as Humans we can chose to Love or Hate as an example, and this applies to anything, you can see or experience the impersonal God or the Personal God as he says, so that is one of our basic Capabilities, choice or Free Will in this regard... The problem happens when You have absolutist (the non dualist here) or the atheist (dualists, materialist, egoic types), both exist, we have access to both, deny one or the other, then your off base and half right half wrong, which causes suffering and further delay in knowing Truth as it is!!

Absolute/God/Brahma/Shiva, if we label it a realm of sorts (language fails miserably in this regard, English anyways) has no qualities, attributes, Experience or Expression, its just a place of Oneness, Completeness, Potential and Possibility, via that everything and anything has to exist somewhere, here on this plane (this is not a realm of Absolute), we have duality, physicality, karma (residual result of all actions performed, cause/effect,,) in play, as Humans we have the most access to be Consciously Aware via Experience of Absolute, when Your Intouch with it, Your Blissful of Your own nature. So since Absolute is Potential and Possibility, we are here to play out this game in Creation (Creation has within it an ingrained Intelligence, some of it is memory/karmic based, some of it is not, its a Grand Intelligence that is totally free from Memory and Karma, and its creative and alive and now Based) so that Absolute can know itself in trillions of ways, via Experience and Expression..

First You have to dis identify with Intellect, which is a Survival Mechanism of sorts, its controlled by Your Identity, which is What You think You are? The foundation of this is Memory, all sorts of Memory (or Karma, Karma means Action, its the residual result of the action creating imprints upon the foundational aspects that make You/Us who we are, its in 4 areas, Body. Mind, Emotion and Energy, each moment there is action going on in these 4 areas, how conscious are You of these actions and their imprints being created) is within You, its like the Software in Your computer, it allows the hardware (Body/Brain/Mind) to function, no Memory/Karma, no ability to have a Body or Mind or Experience or Expression.. The other aspect of the MInd is Chitta or Consciousness, the Grand Intelligence that makes all Creation possible (Absolute/God/Brahma/Shiva), most ppl are not intouch with this aspect of who they are, they are only intouch with Intellect, which gets its data from the 5 senses, Chitta/Consciousness is an Intelligence within You that is not based on Memory, its creative, responsive and present moment Awareness, to get intouch with this certain practices and such are done, this raises Your Energetic levels so that certain dimensions within You that are now unexperienced come into Your Experience, then You gain Clarity, which is anti Belief, You just see things as they are, not thru the filter of Intellect, Memory and Judgement, just as they are, now Life is lived at Ease, Your Peaceful/Blissful of Your own nature, and other Potentials in Life naturally open Up.. Belief blinds You, it makes You conclude about Life, this puts You in a box, then Your limited in Clarity, no clarity but lots of Confidence but its false Confidence and not really useful other than in Survival mode... As well Your Belief are picked up generally, thru what others say, have taught You, family traditions, cultural traditions and ways of doing things, religions and teachings and such, these only work up to a certain level, if You want full access to Life Potentials, You have to drop what anyone says, find out for yourself what life is about and how far You can go with it...

Yes good Post!! It all about smoothing it out right, why make it a challenge and suffer thru it when You can Ease thru it and come to a higher Potential, which is unlimited mostly!!!