Ishanga

Sooner or Later all Forums of this nature run their course, too much discourse on any subject is no good, especially Spirituality and Self Development, talking about it too much is Disempowering... This place is now a good repository of Information for newbies for sure, they can search it and find answers or inquiries for most any newbie question, so its good for that... But for those that are not newbies it gets redundant and is not so healthy!

Well Said!

Of course the ppl are going to watch what he does and make sure it is not illegal or within the bounds of his powers, that I am not against, but the intent of your previous posts suggested to me that You want ppl to rise up and fight hard against him, and try to stop him from doing what he has to do, that is not correct action.. let him do what he has to do, see what comes of it, then if its crazy stuff do what You have to do.. I'm not naive either, I'm probably twice Your age, done more than You, seen more than You, voted more than You, so please watch the ego You have, when someone disagrees it shows its ugly face...

Yes correct, the action speaks for themselves.. Its super hard for Us normal ppl that work jobs and live in a slave like atmosphere to judge accurately that elites, I'm not for them in anyway, I'm just saying it is sort of a different world, I wouldn't want to be Musk or any of them, Trump either, who would need the hassle and the fact that maybe half the population hates them, here in Canada half the population hates Trudeau, he's Young man, he will be out of office in a year then what, live the rest of Your life looking over Your shoulder? He'll probably leave the country and live elsewhere...But we cannot really know what it is like or what they are like since most of them hide their true selves and only reveal a public persona.. My problem is when ppl are dead sure about someone but they have no clue or credibility to judge that person from just the difference in lifestyle and knowing,, Putin I think we sort of know what he is, he's doing this war vs Ukraine and its obvious he has no compassion or consciousness level of realization if he is doing it this way..its not like Ukraine attacked them first right...

I beg to differ, he's not very controversial at all.. You see once someone has a plan to change the world, automatically Enemies and ppl that disagree with arise, so that is what is happening. Is Saving the Soil of the Earth controversial? Is Saving the Trees and Rivers on the Planet Controversial? Id showing ppl what it is like to be constantly Blissful (Living example) and showing them methods for them to be this way themselves Controversial? He's gone Mainstream that is for sure but this is via his plan to spread the Yoga worldwide, he says he will die a Blissful Failure since he has only Touched 3 billion ppl, and not the entire population..

I wouldn't say he is teaching, what You see on Utube and the books in not what he does... The Guru more or less Transmits, Silently, this is the way of the Guru, but in today's day and age the Guru has to talk allot more to get ppl interested, Sadhguru calls this Circus, he has to play the game otherwise the goal is never reached, to Raise Human Consciousness, but he is not just a "Guy" teaching Spirituality.. I've done years of research on him before starter his programs and seeing the effectiveness of them for myself...

@Sugarcoat I'm curious, have You found Your Answer, after 15 pages of replies???

You have 5 sheaths, the last one is called Bliss Body, that is when Your Intouch with it, God/Absolute/Soul/Atman, they call it Bliss Body because there are no words to describe it, as soon as You describe it you limit it, conceptualize it and make it what it is not but we can be intouch with it, that is Enlightenment and with that comes Bliss, Sat Chi Ananda Truth/Consciousness/Bliss...

who's is judging this "Stupidity" and maybe the person making the judgement and claim this person is "Stupid" is even more stupid.. anyone can say anything today about anyone, you call Sadhguru Stupid (not saying You are), why should I put any credibility to your statement??? You know nothing about him really other than what You have read or seen on video, what sort of source of judgement conclusions is that?? Its not anything!

yes, just imagine what it is like to be Musk and be worth 200+billion $$, running multiple companies, making decisions daily that affect lots of ppl, constantly being asked for opinion/interviews, harassed up the ass probably, being sued daily I bet, family life, we cannot imagine what it is like or the pressure, pain or pleasure of it.. We can judge it, but there is no Credibility to our judgement when we state it in a place like this, anyone can say anything about anyone, doesn't matter no credibility to what ppl say, but if another person similar in statue to Musk as an example, says something they can judge and it be credible since they are in similar situations and know up to a point, we don't know squat about ppl like Musk, and/or Trump and others...

Enlightened ppl are not on the couch doing yoga/meditation 24/7, Sadhguru does 20 sec a day, and he only sleeps 4 hrs a day, he has 20 hrs basically to devote to what he wants, plus he is not just Enlightened, he's a Guru there is a difference, and has access to parts of his mind that he can mentally do many things simultaneously, we as we are cannot do this without an understanding and mastery of the mind and human system.. Enlightenment and Being a Guru are different things totally..plus he has Clarity much more intense and clear than any of us, he can focus for a min on something and see it for what it is clearly, for us that may take much much longer...

This will just destroy the country faster than it already is, this is like getting Your car fixed by the mechanic You choose then purposely putting sand in the gasoline tank, why would you do this? The process has run its course, do you believe or adhere to the process of Your own country? If so then it has done what it was designed to do, if You fight it and don't agree with the result then Your making it worse...if You can't see this clearly then You don't see much of what is going on...

if so then how did America get thru 4 yrs of him and its still around??? how is a country that is destroyed still functioning???: time will tell, I am not a Trump supporter, the system is corrupt, plain and simple but at least with Trump You know what he is thinking, the other out right lie and hold back, say one thing, think do another... but the system is failing, on all levels..

Yes but its also a tool.. From what I observe in this day and age ppl think taking advice, doing many practices and learning from different sources is the way to go, they are like trying to cover all bases, but from my long time Martial Arts learning and teaching, I learned that if You really want to master something, find something that speaks to You and stick to the one thing, don't learn karate striking and boxing striking at the same time, You will lose in the end and not master anything, just learn one thing at a time, then once mastered move on... With Spirituality the Guru/Disciple relationship is a tool to use, Your Devoted to the Guru and visa versa, its a tool, if you go to this or that guru, guru shopping you'll go know where on the Spiritual path as many here demonstrate daily... But they see this Guru/Disciple relationship as disempowering, that is because in the Western Mind Individualism is primary, I can do it on my own, which is total BS... The reality is everything is connected, no one is truly Individual, we need many many things just to survive on a daily basis, never mind doing something big in Your life...one can say there are little gurus everywhere and big ones too!

lol is that the best You got?? I haven't been to his ashram since 2013, but I guess going to ashrams for You is a no no, but there is no You, Your opinion means nothing, your here being a hypocrite and replying to this or that, when nothing is happening apparently, lol... Its so weird, the Man Sadhguru has done 10 million times more with his life than You or I, and your trying to make it out that being associated with him is dumb or stupid or from a lack of knowing, what are you on anyways, you hang around this place and think doing what your doing is better??? Your a complete joke Man!

Is chopping off ppl's head empowering in any way for any reason? No, so there is no judgement needed, the act alone speaks for itself! I don't have to make a conclusion or intellectual look at and deduct that it is bad, or these ppl are this or that, the act alone says it all, Musk, Trump, Biden, whomever has done anything worthwhile on this planet or made something huge of themselves are not on this level, its much more subtle, which You are not able to recognize it seems, so we cannot judge them with any "Credibility" because we have no idea what it is like to be them or their situation.. What ppl are doing is looking at someone in their backyard from a mile away thinking they know what they are doing in their backyard but they can't really see it that well, but they think they know what is going on in the backyard..

My understanding is when dealing with Occult, if You use Siddhis and such it creates massive amounts of Karma for You, much more than normal, and that has to be dealt with, most will not be able to deal with it, similar situation that was displayed in Star Wars and Anikin/Darth Vader and such made up stuff, go the dark side and shit will happen to You!!!!

We think we are so "informed" but we are not really, narratives and bias are everywhere, and ppl are making conclusions about other ppl and things/events based on bias and narratives being made to create drama and ratings and get someone rich and powerful or to promote an agenda, so I don't trust anything outside myself 100%, i watch it and evaluate based on my own Awareness and Logic, but don't come to complete conclusions about most anything, we don't know anything really about anything other than generalities..

I accept it:) This is me, which makes me different from You on this level.. Your just a blind slate, nothing means anything, soon you'll be like Scholar..

This is all about Potentials, if love exists then hate has to exist and visa versa, its just the potential that can exist... Humans, or most Humans have the ability to choose, many that do horrible things to others are not choosing, they are nuts and hence cannot choose and that is a certain potential that will arise when there are so many of us, we just label things as Evil, Good, Bad, Empowering and such to communicate.. There is no Force out there that is Evil, or Good, its just Potential, we as Human have the most capability to choose and be conscious of this process and either use it for Empowerment (which is a quality of Life/Absolute) or Disempowerment!

there is no you, what You write is meaningless because there is no You that is writing and nothing is happening, so useless response from a no body!

Again like the other guy, not the same comparison, why are You guys using negative examples... Their actions speak for themselves, their actions hurt others, Musk and others their actions are hurting others? You guys at times think You know what these ppl are like absolutely, You don't but you base your assessments on it and it leads to false knowing and then belief or conclusion making which blinds You. None of us here know really what Trump is about, especially when half the population says he's good and the other says he's bad, if it was 90-10 in favor that he is bad then it would be obvious right, but it isn't, half the ppl cannot be that crazy...

No where near the same comparison, they are crazy zealots that is obvious, ideological to the max, the other like Musk are not, they've done both good and bad things but generally are empowering society and ppl, the point is we, you and I cannot "Credibly" judge, meaning no one should listen to us in this regard when it comes to anyone doing anything empowering in this world, as we do not know in any way what they are like or their processes, if we did we would be them in many way and we are not on that level...

True but this applies more to the non Enlightened than it does to the Enlightened, as they have much more Clarity of Reality than we do, so hence they see what we don't see, ppl like Sadhguru are light years ahead in this sort of thing, but he knows the social situation and has to play the game to make things happen for the purposes that he employs for what he wants to do, he didn't do that route while Embodied as Sadhguru Shr Brama who was anti social and ppl feared him in a way... I'm sure if he focused on Politics he could come up with solutions that would work well, his main solution to the World Situation is to Raise Human Consciousness so things are Transformed..This may or may not happen on a mass scale probably not this generation or the next but who knows...

lol, some video someone makes saying crap like this, why take it seriously, like You guys worship Leo, he's done 1% of what Sadhguru has done, lol.. You have to realize as soon as You want to do big things, enemies will appear to attack You on all levels!