Ishanga

Yes, there is Karma, Cause (Source) and Effect (Appearance), this is just one simple way to explain it, without Source or Karma/Cause then how is anything Created? What was there before Creation, just pure Source, which I would describe as Absolute Intelligence or Potential, where anything and everything exists as a sort of idea or thought creation (of course words or logic is limited in explaining this, this cannot be really explained, its unexplainable since logic cannot adequately explain what doesn't exist physically).. Potential is unrealized Expression and Experience, that does not happen in the realm of Absolute or God, it happens here on this realm, Universe and/or planet where Duality exists, Karma, Expression, Physicality and Experience exist, we as Humans have the most ability to be Conscious of this process, play with it and drop it and go back to Absolute or Potential Realm...

The Ultimate Desire is too be Unbounded or Totally Free, this is Liberation or Moskha, where Your merged with Absolute, or some say higher up realms, so yes this is mostly about Absolute Realization, reincarnation I would say is just a cycling program to allow it too happen over a longer period of time for this sort of expression of life as we know it too be... How all of this is happening is a mystery for Me, my only conclusion is that its a program of sorts to allow Potential as we know to be expressed here based on our laws of physics and how our reality is set up, it could be completely different somewhere else in another reality of sorts!

No, Desire is not from the Ego, Desire is life itself, everyone and every living thing want to live to its highest Potential, but Humans with the most innate Potential have to be super Conscious of how this process goes about. Egoic desire process is about Accumulating more ppl, places and things to feel and experience being on top of other Humans, True Desire process is about no more Accumulating anything, just dropping of everything (ppl, places and things) and going back to Your Original nature... If one is driven by Ego though they will want to go thru in their own "Unique" way, and this can take lifetimes to do, if one drops their Ego, they can use established systems to help them discover it within this lifetime or even immediately, it depends on ones karmic makeup....

@ExploringReality Everything has levels to it, if Your starving hungry and cold, your purpose is to get food and warmth, its goes up the ladder, if Your in an Enlightened state your purpose is not to feed Yourself and get warm, so we humans have different Potentials within Us, our purpose is too explore all these Potentials but go thru it untouched, not ruled by it, as once a Potential or Experience has been passed thru, it becomes the past, if your ruled by the past your not truly alive and present but a slave of sorts, potential can never be realized and expressed while in slave mode...

I had this same question, my guess is that there is this realm we call Absolute, its non physical, its completeness and oneness and is all about Potentials, but there is no physicality, no way to express anything or experience anything there, but since Potential and Possibility are what Absolute is all about, somewhere there has to be what we call this Earth and Us and everything else in it, so we are that playing out in a Possibility Equation of sorts, so that Absolute can know it self via all of the life forms living now and ever existed Experiences, otherwise it cannot know itself if there is no mechanism to allow Experience and Expression to exist...

Most Everybody is doing Yoga or Spirituality, its just a matter of how conscious they are of their actions.. Most Everybody wants to be more than what they are right Now, True or False? If its True for You, whether You call it Self help/development or Spirituality, its basically the same things, as with everything there are levels to it, a big problem is ppl read "Enlightenment" stories then afterwards want to be Enlightened, but they can't even keep a stable state of Peacefulness or Happiness for one hour, so they are running before they even know how to stand! This is why systems and Guru's, Ashrams are in place, so one doesn't go out on their own and then end up crazy for doing what they are doing...

There are also tons of cases where ppl have already developed skills in certain areas, as well as well with twins lets say brought up in the same environment with the same DNA growing up to be different individuals, not saying Environment doesn't have a role to play in how we are, it does but ones consciousness level plays a more significant role I would say.. Reincarnation is just a recycling, sooner or later one will come to the Truth of it, it can be done within One lifetime or a span of 80yrs which is nothing compared to thousands upon thousands of lifetimes, if this is what one wants there are established systems in place to facilitate this, but individualism and ego rule in today's day and age, so ppl want to try to figure it out on their own, like reinventing the wheel, lol, its stupid but free will is what makes us what we are!!!

@Yeah Yeah Karma is just a label or descriptive word, used to describe the "Real" mechanics, if there was no Karma there would be no Existence, no basis upon which Cause or Creation can happen, everything that we mostly know to be reality would not be possible without Karma in place, no Universe, no Earth, no You and Your Life as You normally know it... So Karma is just Memory that has an effect on Your present moment, as a Human You have a choice as to how to Respond to this effect, You can Accept it (then Ease or Peace is Your Experience) or reject it, don't accept it (then Unease, disease, stress if Your Experience), that is the basic choice, then from either of these Experiences consequences will result, so we have Cause and Effect in play always once one is here and Embodied and living in a place where Duality and Consciousness and Choice exists!

Body is just one aspect of what makes us Human, there is still the Mind, Emotions and Energy systems and two other bodies of sorts that make up what we are well here and Embodied... You don't get how there is something more to You than just Your Body because Your Awareness of these other "bodies" is not developed yet, its simple, hence why we have practices that put these bodies into Your Awareness.. What goes on they say after Your present day Body dies, is Your Energy Body, Astral Body and Bliss body, embedded in the Energy Body is Your Karma, no discretionary ability is there with You while in this realm, just Your Tendencies picked up from this lifetime added on to all the other tendencies and conditioning/karma that was created via all the other lifetimes (as human, insect, plant, animal, etc) that you have collected over thousands of lifetimes probably, who knows? Depending on how Conscious, or how developed You were Spiritually determines what Body you will go into for the next lifetime... If You reached Enlightenment during this lifetime, and the alloted Karma is used Up, there is still a warehouse of Karma left, but what they say is that at the moment of Enlightenment and dissolution/moskha/liberation your no longer going to go on and live another life and merge no existence or Absolute, but others say You go on to other higher realms... Why is all this happening? My guess it is simply for Absolute to know itself via Experience, Experience on the amoeba level, plant level, insect level, animal level and Human Level which is the top end of the scale as far as we know..We are part of a Possibility/Potential equation, where everything that can be is, so here we have Duality, Consequence/Karma, Materialism/Physicality in existence and we play the game of how to get back to Absolute, via that Experiences happen of all sorts, Trillions upon Trillions of Experiences and via that Absolute Experiences itself..

Yogis Leaving Body By Uttering Om Namah Shivaya ?

How has life changed since the internet came online (91'), since Facebook was created or Iphones? So for Us the evolutionary scale is not as significant, physically we have not change much, but socially and culturally and technologically/knowledge wise we have tremendously, they say that amount of data collected in one day use to take years to collect.. So in the old days, maybe 80yrs ago what You say may be more relevant, but today it is not imo, but I think the power players want us to stay stupid, to keep things relatively the same,, People today instead of being addicted to new information, new ways to do things, new ways to live and experience, are addicted to scrolling on social media, instagram, tik tok, dopamine hits and such, this is the same as going out from the cave and searching for Food, its the same fundamental activity, searching for something you need to live another moment, this imo is manufactured slavery, not a natural progression, luck for Us we have Guru's and Traditions that are time proven to work, and the ppl that have even a small insight can gain access to this and transform their lives... Most ppl are living way below their Potential, their slaves and don't know it and that is tragic!

Its not 1700, its 2025 for the Human Species this is allot of time to evolve... I was just on Vacation in Dominican Republic, its 4th world there, when off the resort its pretty bad, at least by my standards, I know there are worst places in the world but it was bad there, ppl are just very poor, struggling, and it doesn't have to be this way.. We live in the best time ever technologically and with our knowledge of how to Survive and provide what is needed to Survive for All, but this is not Profitable, so that is the reason, and we've been around long enough for the same ole same to end, we have more ability individually and culturally/socially on mass scales to raise Human Consciousness than ever before, but the power players don't want this, they want us to be slaves to everything that touches us, so that is the plan and that is what is sad!

Yes a bit of Sadness and Tiredness, I've had a taste of Enlightenment for sure, that has changed me forever but its not a permanent state Yet, The Sadness and Tiredness comes from my Human side, its reactive, I live in a society where most are very unconscious and I see their unconscious actions taking place daily, so to secure Enlightenment for sure I would need to go to a more secure environment where this sort of shit is not happening on a daily basis. Even Sadhguru said when it first happened to him, he had sadness or tears in his eyes when he could see the living potential in everyone very easily but no one was living it or realizing it, so that is sad...the tiredness comes from seeing nothing changing, even here which is supposed to be a higher conscious place but isn't!

Insanity is this Thread and the comments below, which is how most Threads are on this forum end, its little wars, ego wars, arguing via a concrete POV or Identity, and as well thinking any of this means anything, it doesn't really, it will be forgotten in a day, so this here is an example of insanity. People making up their own definitions of words, even to the point of arguing over who's logic is more logical lol... This is why I posted a Thread on why this place is not so High on the Consciousness scale, meant mostly for newbies to be fore warned, there really is no truth here to find, Truth is not found in words, more so in silence, in peace, in knowing within Yourself what is Truth and not Truth without it having to be explained or shared with words!

When Your going for Realization of a Higher Potential in Your Life, You have to drop the One You have now, this is very difficult to do for Human Beings, we are not simple creatures or aspects of Life, we are complex, there is more into just Survival for a Human Being than most other life forms, as we are weaker and more vulnerable than other life forms, we need more Intelligence to just Survive, but just Surviving for a Human Life is Tragic, we can live way beyond Survival Mode, so lots of Conditioning or Karma is at play in a Human Being, when You go on the Spiritual path which is the path of Realizing Your Potential, Your Karma is going to be played out much Quicker than normal, what would have taken years to process may be processed in a month, so our Experience of Things is way more Intense when going for Our Potential! This is why, Accepting Now, Living Now, Responding to Now is the basis of a Healthy Spiritual Path, if You Master these three things, then the Suffering is way less, You won't reach Your True Potential and be intouch with Truth if Your Suffering in any Way, its not possible!!

Its a matter of Consciousness, if You highly Conscious, then You have great Clarity, then there is no more Maya or Illusion to what is the Reality, you know the Reality as it is, no belief, no guessing, no deception, from this You choose how to Respond to it within Yourself, You can choose to Suffer it or be Blissed out by it, if Your intouch with Truth/Reality more than likely You'll be Blissed out by it!

Yes, the identity is that of the Cosmos, I am Everything, but this is hard to do today, so the minimum is identifying as a Human which means I am an aspect of Life, that has Free Will, high Consciousness capability and can live way beyond Accumulating and Gathering of People, Places and Things as a means to Survive another day, as does most every other life form on this planet, the question then is what does that Look Like, what does that mean as an expression of Life and for Me? It means BEINGNESS comes first, first I am established in BEINGNESS, I now the Reality as it Is, I have Clarity, I see clearly what it is, like I see clearly I have 5 fingers on each hand, its not a belief, but a Knowing, so once that is established, no Suffering is possible, Peace/Bliss is there naturally, if You want to be Ecstatic You can at Will!

We are here as Humans, with Bodies and Minds to Use in this sort of Life (Life to me is Absolute Realized, Embodied and with Experiences, so Absolute can know itself, otherwise its just a Potential and Possibility realm with no way to express or experience), so we can live on many sorts of levels, Enlightenment while here and Embodied is the highest level, if Your in that sort of State and Experience, then there is no more Suffering for You, pain yes, you will feel it when You stub Your toe, or lose a luv'd one personal to your social circle, but You won't Suffer it, so there is a difference there, but in the end none of this is what we are, so when we realize this, then we go thru it untouched, transparent, we experience everything absolutely, very intensely and totally involved but untouched by it because we determine within ourselves how to Experience it... The point of the post and video is the process of it, ppl want to experience more in their lives, to be more of than what they are right now, when that happens they choose unconsciously a Suffering route, this is no good, they can choose a better route that is more stable and empowering, suffering route most do not reach their potential and drop off the path...

God=Absolute=All Potential and Possibility, so some call this God vs Devil, with the general understanding that God is Good, Love, Kindness, positive attributes, Devil the opposite, Hate, Cruelty, Badness, negative attributes, in general nature this all plays out for survival purposes, the Tiger eats that Deer to survive not out of malice or hate, and on and on it goes, its different for Humans, we have more choice available to Us, the Ability to Respond and Free Will, yes we have to kill to survive too, to eat the plant or animal or whatever to survive and feed our bodies but we don't have to overcome others to live a so called better life, to use others and defeat others to live a better life, we can help, uplift, support, love others and see/experience then not as others but as a part of ourselves and make the whole world a more empowering place to live and Be!

This is True, but ppl are living where life is not found, in their minds, past via memory, future via imagination, which to them seems real, if it seems real to them in their experience then in essence it is real, so these things have to be mastered, few have done this work, so they suffer it...

One can go the suffering route and it maybe makes one want to change and try Spiritual practices, but it is a very very dangerous route and I would say in my experience and understanding in this day and age most ppl do not get to higher Potential in life via Suffering, and if You are at a higher potential in life already Suffering becomes less possible, if You suffer in any way, other than a physical injury or disease which I would say is more pain related than Suffering there is a difference, then You are less intouch with Truth and higher Potential, is just not possible... For ppl with "good" things happening in their life, things are going along well, health and finances are good, family is good, then what happens is they strive for more, that is the Desiring Process, You always want to be more than what You are right now.. Via this method it is a much safer method, first You establish Peace, Balance, Harmony, Your stable in all areas then You can go for more Potential to come into Your Life, and be good with it. not go backwards steps and such...

All of our Social Systems, be it Democracy or Communism or Authoritarianism, or Capitalism, Socialism, whatever the system that has been created, all of it now in this day and age is Corrupt! None of it is working for the masses, the masses are losing every year the quality of Life they had before, Western Countries overall have the highest standards of Living, this is lowering as time goes on, all of these systems do not work as well as they used to, lots of factors as too why, but mainly its because the majority of ppl are low Consciousness, Low Awareness, Self Centered, Egoic, Narcissistic.. What about Me (Me can be individual or about a small social circle of Family or Friends) is primary, other exists in a profound way, not many realize that we are basically all One or the Same, differences are promoted, Exclusiveness is promoted, Competition (I am above You) is promoted, so with this sort of Experience and Mindset/Understanding of Life, we are bound to continue to Suffer More.. What has to happen is either a massive shift in Higher Consciousness overcomes the population (which I don't think will happen for many generations) or a massive extinction event happens and we start over, or we change everything, how we do everything, from Economy to Education to Governance, other wise things will get worse...

Love is not Evil, Evil is the opposite of Love, Love is Inclusion, Evil is Exclusion, so they are not the same, and Love is not what the Existence is, Love is simply a Human Emotion, but because ppl lack in Love so much they think it is Divine, people think whatever it is that they are lacking in is something more than what it is, this is not So. There is no entity out there Loving You or wanting You to be more than what You are right now, or Successful or Happy or Health, this choice of being these things was given to You at Birth, You just have to realize it! If you do not Realize it, then You look elsewhere for it, and that is why one continues to Suffer!

Your post suggests You understand God to be elsewhere, I don't like to use the word "God" as it implies many different things, lets say Absolute, there is no separation between what is You and Absolute, its just that You are here in Manifested Embodied form, and have lots of Karma in play, Conditioning, that is making You focus on more of the Body or Mind, or Emotions than on what You really are.. Meditation, or Sadhana (Spiritual practices) for sure will get You back intouch with what You are, there is no Separation on this level, only on the Body and Mind level is there any sort of Separation, but we are not the Body or Mind, get intouch with what You are and then Your there, which is the whole goal of Spirituality... Find a method that works for You, stick with it, don't focus totally on Absolute/God, just focus on what it is that your lacking right now, focus on what is limiting You and get rid of your Limitations, one by one, then Absolute will automatically come into Your Awareness and Experience naturally, the Sadhana just gets rid of the obstacles!!

Kundalini is just a representation of Absolute (which is all about Potential/Possibility) in Physical form, all life is a form of Kundalini, whether it is a plant, animal, insect, amoeba or whatever, for us Humans, since we have the most sophisticated neurological system, and have the most Potential in most all areas of Life (Body, Mind, Emotions and Energy) we have the most ability to manipulate and be Aware of this force we call Kundalini. Think of it like an Intensity Chart, the person that is all about Food and Sex, compared to the Artist, the Scientist, the Entrepreneur, the Politician, the Adventure/Dare Devil, the Intellectual, the Spiritualist, all these People are living at different levels of Intensity and Awareness, Kundalini is involved at every level.. If Your only into food and sex (Survival), then the Kundalini is in the lower Chakra, rooted there basically its dormant, we are given this automatically when You are born as a Human, but if Your interest goes higher, your focus is on more than Food and Sex, then the Kundalini has risen up to the higher Chakras.. Yoga is the science of this, how to raise it up to the highest Chakra, Sahasrara, once it is rooted there then Your basically Enlightened, Your Blissful of Your own nature, Have Clarity and can go thru Life Untouched (that is if Your still Embodied, most do not stay Embodied when this process reaches that point).. Yoga more than most any other system is the complete science of it, there are many ways to get there as their are many types of Humans, with different Karmic makeups and personalities and such, but the basic 8 path method can get You there within this life time.. In my research, Taoism thru what Adam Chan has described it is a pretty Thorough system as well.. The other systems can work but it may not work within this lifetime generally speaking I would say... But to explore this system is not recommended to do it alone, You need a mentor or Guru to get You thru it safely, otherwise Your dealing with Dynamite, it can Enlighten or do the opposite, bring You to the deepest hole, so tread carefully in this area of Spirituality... But without Kundalini Activation nothing is really happening, I would say psychedelics have nothing really to do with Kundalini, it is more with the Mind which is powerful as well and can produce Experience that are out of this world but they are not permanent in nature like a true Kundalini proper awakening is!