Ishanga

Ego front and center I see:) Its not about him "wanting" to be remembered, its about the legacy of the work, when You work on the physical level alone Your work will live on past Your death about 100yrs, on the Energetic level where he is working at its thousands of years, of Empowerment left for those the choose to walk this path.. Its not about worship either, I don't worship him, just totally respect what he has done and thankful that I discovered him and his methods! Just because I say what I say about his does not mean I worship him, that is YOU projecting, as many around here do quite often, which is strange for a Spiritual sharing space??

The teachings, or rather "Sharings" (books, videos and such), are not what he is about, this is just the circus he has to play (his words) to get ppl interested in Yoga and what he has to offer. This is the problem when ppl are looking at him and Isha from afar, they make assumptions and then project it onto him, but most all of it is false.. I've been to 3 of his events with him being present (so I've spent about 12 days in the same room as him), its a totally different thing when that is the case, I observed him thoroughly, he's not what ppl think he is when his on his utube vids and such, completely more intense and alive when in person, its something one has experience, but that won't happen to an intense level via the books or videos, there is some transmission there but when in person its much stronger...

The temples and Dylanalinga was manifested by him, and others, he almost died creating it lol... Your looking for proof via your eyes, you'll never find it, which is why You'll never go too far in Spirituality... Its obvious where You and many others are coming from, but none of You have the credibility to affect what he is doing, say what You want, he'll still keep on keeping on, and when we are all died and buried, forgotton after a generation or two, he won't be

Another misnomer, how one Enlightened Guru handles things does not mean all should do the same, Your projecting Your needs on Sadhguru, why should he listen to You???

Yes, he says many ppl have come to the ashrams with mental illness, he puts them to work in the garden and allows them to go back to touching the earth, eating more naturally, working hard so they are too tired to be depressed or anxious, I think this is a good system...as well of course learning Yoga...

I think this is a misnomer, You don't understand, as well as most around here, that what he is doing is using the tools that are available to him at the moment in time.. Before all this Yoga or Enlightenment came into his life, he was a business man, owning a construction business and farm and such things, then things happened and he dropped it all, he was already on his way to being a Millionaire many times over, but he dropped it when he had his Enlightenment experience, which was back in 1986 I believe, then things happened, he found out his past life history and why he was born and he built the temple, up until the early 2000's there was no advertising of any kind just word of mouth. His basic goal is for everyone to have their Free Will (what he calls Response Ability) back, so they can determine for themselves how they want to Experience life, not to make everyone Enlightened.. To facilitate that and for everyone to be Blissful, he built temples, set up Ashrams, travelled the world (working 20hrs a day, 7days a week for over 30yrs) to promote his Yoga methods and share some wisdom, too support all this business had to be established to make some $$ otherwise how would it work in this day and age and our economic system? He also supports many charitable activities,medical services, and other such things in India, prison programs there and here in North America, so money is needed to support this, and he uses Utube to help promote, he is NOT a Youtube Guru lol..!

I watched it, he said that Compulsion is the fundamental reason why mental illness is rampant, we are the most compulsive society ever...I did not hear him say a silent mind is the solution!

Yes the Dylanalinga, which almost killed him and a few others, its the main reason why he was here, he was supposed to leave the body (mahasamahdi) after its completion, but as an experiment he wanted to see if he could reconstruct his energy body with the help of others, so he did it...glad he did.. As to the stories of how this all started, his past lives and so forth, I pay less attention to that, all that matters is that his stuff works, and it does, how he promotes himself and Isha is up to him, not my concern not should it be!

In all my years of involvement and study of Sadhguru never has he said that his goal is too have ppl with silent minds or turning it off, in fact he has said the opposite of this.. What he says is not to identify with the Mind, not to believe it is You that is the Mind or the Thoughts or the Thinking patterns, and that creating a Space btwn what is You, and what is the Mind or Body is the basic practice. I'd like to ask anyone here, if Your goal was to bring Bliss as a natural Experience to everyone in this world, how would You go about it?? Sadhguru did not start to go public until after the early 2000's I believe, before that it was just word of mouth, today Billions are touched by the Isha Foundation, and why not, we need organizations like this to fix how fucked up this world is...

Correct, their ego in some way is threatened... They don't have a problem with Jaggi Vasudev, they have a problem with the Title or label "Sadhguru", or what seems to be a Authority Figure, he's not that, he is the head of his organization, but he has said many times that he is only stating and relating what is coming thru his own Experience, that is what as Sadhguru is, an uneducated Guru, not learned via Spiritual Texts or Teachings... For others its how he dresses, or where he comes from, or how he speaks, its not about the Person Jaggi Vasudev, its what they project on him, which is false of course, these people have never sat infront of him for hours or day at a time.. Do You really think a fake would work 20hrs a day, for over 30yrs for fame and fortune? If he was this good a fake then why not be an Actor and then not be constrained by so called spiritual ethics?? As a you said, it is like ppl on the street that are Monday morning Quarter backs, "Oh the team should have done this or that" I hear this all the time, well if You are so good at that sport then why are you not the coach and getting paid big bucks to do so? Because You know really nothing of what it takes, its the same here, ppl can talk all they want, there is no credibility behind it...

here he is with more detailed explanation, he is doing the mantra and chant in the background of the first video...

He calls it circus, things he has to do to make things work for his plan, he's said this many times... He's no Entertainer lol, I don't think all the work he has done or is doing it too entertain, like building temples, social works projects and trips all over the world to do the work, he's been doing this for over 30yrs risking his life to do it on many occasions, I don't see anyone else in the world doing the work that he is doing like he does it, with this 20hr days 7 days a week schedule.. I don't listen to his talks anymore much, but the methods and techniques he shares are super effective, I felt a huge change just after 2 weeks of the basic practice he shares...

Yes there are major differences, Sadhguru is much more active socially, this is two fold, first he wants the ppl to see and touch him so that it seems more real, plus he has to raise funds to make the events available to the public and to support the ashrams and programs they have running, so as Sadhguru says often he has to play circus, Leo is much more private and isolated, with a limited audience and message... Both have their purpose, both will go on no matter what anyone says or thinks, that is the way it should be! Sadhguru's hightest value from what I gather is too liberate as many ppl as possible, he already fulfilled his guru's goal of creating the Dylanalinga, so now it is too transform the world to a better place...

@Natasha Tori Maru Leo does this steady telling ppl what he thinks they should do, why should I not do the same, its just unsolicited advice that is all..Plus Sugarcoat raised the question herself if she should leave here or not, I just added my two cents, its not arrogance, just sharing, but to each their own... Plus I am not giving here life changing advice, just that spending too much time or online is not so healthy which is a proven point!

What's funny is that Leo is sounding more and more like Sadhguru on a regular basis, his sharings in my perception seem to reveal that.. I would classify Leo as a Jnana Yogi, he has a desire to know all the mechanics of Existence and Reality, that is fine we all have to choose which path to pursue... Also why does my admiration of Sadhguru bother You?

I agree, its a balance btwn Absolute and Relative, and this is the whole reason why we are here I think, to work this out, Experience things, go thru all there is too go thru Experientially and then somehow return back to the Absolute Perspective, that is the game, but if Your too one sided (I think most in the world are too Relative) then it causes un balance and that results in not knowing or experiencing all that is there... Un Realized Potential is a huge Tragedy imo!

I wouldn't say Happiness/Fulfilment is a value, more of an Experience, and when Your intouch with Truth You naturally feel Happy and Fulfilled!

I post here because like others I have no one else to discuss this sort of topic with..I post less and participate less because the answers are not here for sure, but its entertaining to see the drama here when we are supposed to be searching for truth and not drama.. I care because in my perception Sugarcoat has a real attraction or desire to know truth, as do many of Us here, and in my experience after lots of trial and error i know finding the answers via logic or intellect won't work, its only entertainment (or socializing as she said).. I want to help those that are on a true path towards truth so I responded, plain and simple..

He's on here for hours a day everyday, as are others, its not healthy being online for hours a day that is proven, at the least this place is not so dangerous compared to other parts of the internet, at least he is super curious about Consciousness and other things Spiritual, but in the end he won't find any answers here, just more questions upon questions until he is old and on his death bed, getting him nowhere, don't have to be a genius to see that!

No, You have an Experience, we all do, individual Experiences, this is on the basic level, Human level, then there is the BEING level lets say, that is where You were are when You have Your lsd experience, the Being Level where everything is ONE, all I am saying is that on that level there is no "I", on the basic Human Level there is an "I", if there wasn't we wouldn't have existed long as a species. One way of saying, other than to say "I am the only Being in existence" is that I am You, You are Me, everything is connected and Inclusive to each other, its just that there are trillions of different forms of life, all coming from the same source, on that level we are ONE! btw I am not into non dualism ideas and fantasy that no one exists and nothing is happening lol!!!

It sounds to Me from what You wrote that Your Under Stress, which is a form of Suffering right? Enough so that your taking meds which are not good for You in the end! So my advice as I said before, is to get Yourself into a place of Balance, Harmony or Peace, there's lots of intellectual and physical practices that can help with this.. In Your OP you say the word "Regret" allot, this is living in the future and past, future is imagination since it does not exist yet, past is memory and it doesn't exist as well, only NOW actually exists, but we are all mind identified to a heavy degree, Mind is all about Past and Future, Mind cannot realize NOW, so we have to have space from it, then reality is Perceived, then One is at Peace, so Living NOW absolutely is essential, use the past to become wise from, not wounded, and imagine a future but don't live there emotionally.. Work on basic things like this, as well learn how to Breath correctly, Sit Correctly, Eat Correctly, this will all help with stopping the Stress Response, bringing harmony and Peace into Your Natural Experience, then make the decision...That's all I was sayin!

@Nito There are no large issues or decisions to make in life, things like who to get married too, what career to have, where to go to school and such, these are not large decisions. The large decisions are all about the Quality of Your Life Experience, how do You want it too be, Joyful or Miserable, take care of that, then everything else will fall into place as it should be. First make Yourself Peaceful and Healthy inside and out, then make a decision and stick to it. Never make a decision when in destress or Suffering experience, then you will shift and change Your decisions and zig zag in life! We want to go straight not zig zag, so take of the basics, first BE, then go out and DO then HAVE, don't DO Then HAVE to BE that's backwards! Good video here on this topic..

take it, your obsessed with this place obviously, it will hinder Your Spirituality!

@Meeksauce You've had an Awakening, that is Great! You realized everything is One, Complete, this is Great, this is what the Absolute Is! Problem is You still have an Ego, Body and Mind to deal with, these things provide Experience, so You came back and Realized everything is One, but then communicated that "I only Exist" solipsism stuff, which is not so Great! There is no "I" in Oneness, but there is an "I" in You and Everyone else, that is the whole point of this Existence here on Earth and Us being Humans. We can go from being totally "I", Egoic based, me/myself/I experience, which is basic Survival level instinct and Awareness, to what You Experienced which is Oneness, but is there is no "I".. If You are the only one in existence then whom are You sharing with, it would make no sense and doesn't. Just don't think about it so much or try to argue a philosophy (Solipsism), just share the experience of Oneness, this should make life for You a whole lot better, time will tell!