Ishanga

Material industry is tied to Survival Accumulation, it all is.. One can take the intellect to the deepest levels, via that it gives Spiritual Insights I would say, but then it has to go further and disregard the Intellect, which is why we have Yogic systems, Daoist Systems, Buddhist System and so forth, it goes beyond the Intellect and into places that don't require it...Leo I would say has gone as deep as one can go via the Intellect, he's done some Yoga but has to integrate it all and get past his Karmic hiccups still...at least this is what I am observing, he for sure had great insights and sharing, they have helped ppl for sure, but its very limited... P.S. what is the point of "proving me wrong" ?? makes You feel better?? sounds egoic too me..

Survival based level only, everything is that in todays society and culture, intellect is just that survival based living, I'm am talking Mystical/Spiritual levels of Realization, intellect has nothing to do with that... Our Potential lies in the Mystical and Spiritual, if one has not Experienced those Potentials, then we are no different than the cavemen, just accumulating different things, which is a sad state of affairs after 200,000yrs...

Leo is a Knana Yogi, he's dissecting the Existence via his mind and intellect, going so deep he has insight from that, that is clear, but he hasn't dealt with his ego and now obviously narcissistic tendencies, and he coitizes others from doing things differently than him and disregards them which is short sighted.. Ppl here luv or idolize him because they are intellectual too, but not on his level, but they relate to it, problem is existence has nothing to do with Intellect lol, that is the trick...poor idolizers!!! I can't listen to his lectures, their too long, eventually it all sounds like Bla Bla Bla... make it short and sweet... Not saying he is not on a level of Awareness that is high level, he is, but he hasn't dealt with certain karmas that are in place that stifle him big time..

Most aspect of Creation are predetermined, it has to be to allow Creation and Existence as it is here on this planet to happen, this is Karma, Karma is cyclical creation based on past Actions, but for a Human Being, which as far as we know is the most Capable Life Form (has the most Potential in all areas of Life), we can rise above Karma cycles and its influence and have Free Will or Response Ability, which means we can live a Undetermined Life, so Karma means my life is my Responsibility, I choose how to Experience Life and from that perform actions, of course actions are limited, but my Experience of Life is not and does not have to be Determined...

Self, the individualisation aspect of a Human Being, its in the Brain, and the Karmic makeup of the individual, Karma is what make You what You are and its unique, Karma also allows existence to happen, Physicality to Happen, its cause and effect, and the foundation to the existence of things, and its much more.. Think of it like the Software in a computer, it allows to the computer to function and have use to Us, then there is the hardware, motherboard, hard drive etc, that is our Body, Mind is Software, Karma is Software, memory on 8 different levels, layers upon layers of previous experience residue impression reflecting in your NOW experience influencing everything about You.. We cannot grab it, its invisible like air, but present in everything we do, unless we go beyond it via Awareness and the intelligence and clarity that Awareness brings Us!

Since Life is happening, and we live in a dualistic world and realm, Death has to happen, everything Physical is cyclical, we are just pop ups, here today, gone tomorrow or in a second when compared to the cosmic time scale, we don't matter at all, but we do in a way, we allow Potential to be Expressed Experientially, if no experience is possible then what potential is arisen??? So Death is just a consequence of Life, be aware of it, but don't dwell on it too much, you will miss the Living Possibility of this Moment by doing that...

God is just an idea, a concept, few know of it, brain on the basic level, like what is going on around here, just allows ppl to intellectually know of it, which is below 1% of what it is... No brain and You not even at that level...

Self (meaning personality, ideas about our self/others, individual traits/habits/patterns etc) it is real, but it is not what we are. To say it is not "real" is a misnomer. Maya means illusion, it does not mean something or things do not exist, it means they exist but not as You think or experience them too be, so Self exists, if it did not exist then none of us would be here on this forum, thinking and speaking as we do and You wouldn't care if You live or die or eat or sleep or are happy or sad... But as Human Beings, there are two aspects to Us, we have the Human aspect, which is Self, Survival instinct, procreation, and all the Bullshit You see ppl doing today with status, success achievement and accumulating material wealth and showing it off etc etc...., then there is BEING, this is what we are, We are what is before Self and allows Self to be possible, I call it Source Intelligence, Brain is just Body, it allows Experience and Expression to Exist and Happen, that Happens so we can be here to function in this dual, karmic, Potential arising realm called Earth and this present form Universe, so that we can reach Potentials beyond Self, Survival and such, this is in place so Absolute or Source Intelligence can Experience itself in boundless ways, it can't do that in realm that has no duality, Karma in place...Absolute or God is just a realm that is a Potential and Possibility making place, language/logic does not do justice to describing it, we are a particular expression of that Possibility and Potential, playing out a game of sorts in all reality!

The Brain focuses Infinity or Potential into Human Form so that we can understand life somewhat, if that was not in place, we would be here and overwhelmed by the brilliance and beauty, Awesomeness of Existence (this would make is so You wouldn't care about Survival, hence we would not have lasted long as a species and not here on this forum participating), so we have this pre wired Brain that lessens that affect, but we can go back to that state via proper Sadhana so its more balanced, we can live our normal lives but at anytime go back to how Brilliant Existence Is and Experience it Completely!

A saintly life for sure sounds nice! It means You are involved totally with life, but untouched by it, You don't form concrete opinions, you don't judge, You discern for sure, but judgement is less intense and concrete, you live simply, minimalistic. You bless those that come into Your life, whether a life time partner or friend or a moment to moment interaction, others come out of it Blessed and Empowered, You make the world a Better place. Not many Saints around that is for sure!

The problem with Joe, and many others and the whole idea of podcasts with many many guest with varying opinions/ideologies stated, is that he doesn't know what to think, he's mostly completely indoctrinated in what is being told to him but since he has many guest with varying ideologies he doesn't know what is what, its confusion, and that is the case when You have so many varying opinions about what is what, in whatever aspect of society you are investigating, ppl will find what they identify with and then become blinded by anything else presented, this is not healthy or empowering. One needs to look at information from others Yes, but unless You are completely isolated, just look around where You live, that will tell You what is what in the world, I live in Toronto, Canada's biggest city, its a very diverse here, many ppl from many different cultures and ethnicities, its chaos here, ppl go to the mall when it is nice and sunny outside, and they stay away from the mall when it is raining outside, this is a simple example but shows where ppl are at, they don't know anything about what life is about or where to find it, their Awareness levels are very low.. Every major north/south, east/west street here is packed full daily most all day, ppl love to drive their cars on nice sunny days going to places that they think will make them happy, that is their mindset, I know because my job allows me to witness this daily... I give humanity 150yrs, maybe less before we go extinct,, Sadhguru will die a failure, a blissful failure for sure, but he's Blissful of his own nature so who cares eh.. That is why I keep to myself, don't make friends, stay in on weekends, work on my own Awareness and Inner Experiences of Life, don't care about what others think or really how they live, its sad in a way to witness what I witness daily but it doesn't affect me internally...

Like I said he does not personally claim enlightenment, only that he knows the origin to the ultimate for a Human Being,, and he doesn't claim to make one enlightened or that is what he wants for ppl that do his methods or join his ashrams, he says he needs ppl to stay here on this earth to make it better, as the moment of Enlightenment and the moment of physical death is at the same moment, he only claims to allow You to have your Free Will back...

He hides it because those methods (not teachings) can be harmful to those using it without proper guidance, he give out basic stuff, non enlightenment stuff for free and a little fee (reasons for this shared before) because they help with maintaining and healthy lifestyle and Peaceful/Blissful experience, this is not enlightenment, Enlightenment means Your done for as an Individual.. My advice to You is to ignore Sadhguru, You have a blind spot concerning him for sure, just ignore him and move on...

Incorrect, he is not looking for ppl to worship him, you actually think a person like him, with his intelligence and charisma is just look for ppl to bow down to him and that this turns him on after 30yrs of doing this? Come on Man, your just a disgruntled user and it shows, your main thing in life is this forum it seems which is super sad! There's video of him saying he doesn't care on a personal level what happens, he is just doing what needs to be done, while here with a body and mind to use. As well thousdands upon thousands of ppl visit his ashram in India daily, out of all that for sure there will be some that do not like it, that is just the way it is, to list it here and say "See he is a fraud" is nuts, its just bound to happen... What's happening here, with all the naysayers of Sadhguru just shows the crazy the is in in this world, the man is working himself to death to improve the situation here and ppl put him down for it, its just crazy, and its getting worse by the day...

He throws those types out of the ashrams, didn't you know??

Sadhguru on becoming conscious of all levels

He can prove it, just watch the videos of his history, hear the stories of the other ppl involved over the years, what proof do you have, who would provide a testimony in your favor, and where is Your ashrams to visit, what temples have You built? Provide the proof then I will believe You. He already has! You sound either jealous or envious, more variations of Ego arising!

Fake spirituality is about the person doing the promoting, they promote more about themselves (pics, videos about how good or bad (drama) there life is, how good they are at doing yoga or breathing technique, etc) vs methods or teachings that can help whomever is using it or listening/reading. True Spirituality is about helping others rather than yourself, becoming a Devotee (devoid of self) to the process of this and sharing tried and tested methods for others to use that work, its more about the HOW rather than the Why but the Why's are explained (Why Suffering, Why am I here, Purpose, Karma etc) and used as a supplement but not the primary of the Authenticity of what it is...

Just look at the simple level of what he is doing physically, he sleeps 4 hours a day, before his turned 60 it was 2hrs a day, he works 20 some hours each day, 7 days a week and has done so for over 30yrs, so what does all the say?? He for sure has access to something that most do not, and that is just the simple physicality of what he is doing, never mind everything else that is going on... here's his activity level for last year, which is probably a bit less that what he's been doing the last 29yrs! You and I, and 99.99999% of the ppl on this planet could not keep up with him today for a month or week!

Infinity means the same as Possibility or Potential, its just these last words are more related to Manifestation and Action.. Human Beings are the most capable life forms when it comes to Possibility and Potential first via Experience and then via Expression, of course our bodies and minds are limited in many ways, but we are neither of these things, so once we realize this Experientially then things open up beyond the body and mind within Us, that are always there, always available to us but we don't realize due to Unconsciousness, and Karma ruling us rather that Us ruling it! So if Life exists, Death (Physical) has to exist, in an unmanifested realm, neither life or death exists because physicality doesn't exist, Physicality just means the same as Limitation or Boundaries, well in the unmanifested realms there is no boundaries or limitation so life or death is not present there, only here in the manifested, dual, karmic realm does Life or Death exist, and we play the game of it, so that Absolute.God/Brahman can know it self..

@Calixtus The first step or goal is to have Peacefulness as a natural experience, if that is not in place then forget anything else on the Spiritual scale, god realization, enlightenment or whatever, if Your not peaceful of Your own nature Your basically screwed and will suffer till Your physically dead only to do it all over again when You come back in a new body. So work on the basics, establish Your BEINGNESS, which means Your at Ease, at Peace, You naturally Accept what is, not as a concept or thought process, You Prioritize the NOW, use the past/memory to become Wise, not wounded, and plan/imagine for a future but are not trapped emotionally by it, You respond rather than react, responding is Consciousness in action, reacting is Compulsiveness in action, which is living by accident and not on purpose, establish these basic and things will start to happen in Your Life!

Nice sharing! I think Isha as something set up at harvard to study the effect of Isha Yoga, so that is cool, he's allowing modern day science to find out why it works, and this has been done many times before, they studied Swami Rama years and years ago, he could control the temperature of different parts of his hand, so one side of his hand was different temp than the other side of his hand, and he stopped his heart for a time period, and did other things that science says is not possible, so slowly the west is learning, but we are slow learners for sure!!

As I explained before, he has to charge for it, firstly to pay for the facilities, the food, the travel to get to the venue and such expenses, second, know one today will give any value to attend his events if it is for free, that is the way it is today unfortunately.. As I said, all 3 events I attend, the fees for all of them combined where below $2000, which is crazy to think about when other self help or gurus charge over $5000 just for a one day event... Also, he doesn't "Make" ppl do anything, he just offers a method for the person to use so they have their Free Will/Ability to Respond back in their control, and from there they can do what they want to do with it, if they want to have Suffering Experiences go for it he says, if Bliss is what You want to that is fine to, that is up to the individual, not for him to decide..

Sadhguru is Anti Belief, whenever he shares things that are considered above the norm, he always prefaces it by saying don't believe what I am sharing with You, don't disbelieve it either, just look at and wonder why I am sharing it with You today, so he's anti belief, he just wants ppl to be open as much as they can and too explore a different way of living and to give it a chance, if it doesn't work then leave it behind, he's said this many many times...

Ego front and center I see:) Its not about him "wanting" to be remembered, its about the legacy of the work, when You work on the physical level alone Your work will live on past Your death about 100yrs, on the Energetic level where he is working at its thousands of years, of Empowerment left for those the choose to walk this path.. Its not about worship either, I don't worship him, just totally respect what he has done and thankful that I discovered him and his methods! Just because I say what I say about his does not mean I worship him, that is YOU projecting, as many around here do quite often, which is strange for a Spiritual sharing space??