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No results, then once again on death bed wondering what it was all about but too late...You see when Potential is unexplored and not Experience then that is tragedy, which is the general state of the world unfortunately...

Once You realize that any subject or theory or conclusion can be logically argued against then that means all of that stuff is not where Truth is found..There is no individual, 8.2 billion versions of Truth, there is One Truth, its has nothing to do with words, conclusions, ideologies, it has all to do with You and how much Clarity of Reality You have, which does not have to be shared via words, just live it and ppl will see it...

No, pondering is like simple contemplation, which has a place in the beginning, sooner or later action has to take place, that won't happen via pondering, and we ponder too much nowadays, what is happening in ppl's minds is more real than anything, the touch of a flower on your finger, and such, so action has to happen...Forums are good but up to a point they are not so good...

You will continue to ponder for the rest of Your life, then it will be the last moment and wonder what was it about, but then its too late! Become a How person, rather than a why person continuing to ask question upon question and get more confused as you on pondering..

Everyone that is born has Experience, how they interpret that is up to them and their conditioning and learning.. but even here, no one agrees to what Experience is, is it all that everyone is saying lol, so this is why the world is how it is, its intellectual, ideological, so much so that this is more real than real, so that even the simplest thing seems individual to what a person thinks and believes, which can change at any time when new data is inputted, so that is why the world as it is now will never get together, is more insane than ever and we are basically doomed unless something serious happens or a reset happens...

In the End its all about what You are Experiencing within Yourself.. The most important and loving relationship is supposed to be between a Parent and Child. Why would a Parent give their life for their Child? Its because of what they are experiencing within themselves that determines that, they Love the Child so much that they deem it more important than their own life, so hence they will give it away to protect the Child. Devotion is the only way, its above Love on the scale as Love is about Including the Other as a part of Yourself, Devotion is about being Devoid of Self, Self in whatever way You Experience it and understand it is no longer the most important, so in essence the parent is in Devotion of the Child, but again this is what the person is experiencing within themselves.. Mostly no one in the society is a Devotee or True Love Experiencer, they are into an Exchange, an Agreement situation, I will do this and this for You in exchange that You do this and this for Me, of course there are Feelings involved a connection of sorts but its low level, as soon as the other stops doing that thing for them the connection is broken, so its dependent on something, so its like a contract. A stranger has no feeling towards You generally, Your not in their circle or identity of concern so your like an inanimate object to them.. All of this is based on how connected You are with so called "Other", which can be a person, place or thing..so that "Other" becomes YOU!

Evolution is just Desire process happening on a large scale, all life has this Desire Process happening. Desire is just the basic need to be more than what You are right now, all life has this within it, Evolution is natures Desiring Process.. Since there is an inherent Intelligence within Everything, this means as Evolution goes on, things get more Life Orientated, or it supposed to be, the problem is that with Humans, since we have Potentially High Levels of Consciousness within Us and Free Will, this is where it gets messed up, but all other life this works perfectly, we just have to Strive to know the Reality as it is, without our Intellects and Ideological identities getting in the Way, which for most is most impossible!

This is correct, Experience is everything, we experience no experience too while in Deep Sleep, Subjectively everything is within You this Self of sorts, to deny the Self is to deny Experience and therefore Existence and Life itself which is a major misnomer on the Spiritual path but many fall into this trap that nothing exists, nothing is happening, no one exists or only I exist and these sorts of things.. Experience is mostly coming from the basic 5 senses synthesized in the Brain but there are other levels of Experience not using those senses and have to be strived for, we are given the basic 5 to survive another day combined with our superior Intellect, but this is Survival level only which most are living on, strive for more (beyond simple accumulation of ppl, places and things) and it will be shown to You as this is what it means to be Human!

Yes, I think we are going insane more so as a whole population, not that society was ever sane anyways... But in the older days, like even just 50yrs ago, ppl lived harder lives, its much easier today, you can call and get food or whatever delivered to Your door, and its much easier today for anyone to go insane just via the access to information and data, and conflicting information that anyone trying to learn anything will be massively confused, there is so much more Bias out there today about things than ever before and most everyone is controlled by this, ppl are so sure about things they actually think they know when in Reality they don't.. Just choose any famous celeb, business person, rich person and ppl here will tell You exactly Who they are, without ever having met them or spent time with them, that is a small aspect of the insanity that is going on, the judgment level today is super high, the unconsciousness, selfishness, egoic and narcissistic levels are rising all the time, never mind the rising Mental Health crisis.. So Yes we are going more and more insane as time goes on!

Very very few, even on a forum like this that is meant to be about this very subject, there are very few. This is why the world is the way it is, Unconscious Ppl making it Chaotic and Nuts... There are very few that are even at the level of being at Peace within themselves naturally, never mind God Realization which is miles about Peacefulness...

Who said You cannot experience LSD like states naturally? You can, the drug is just showing a Potential within You that is always there, its just that You, and most of Us, cannot consciously control it, like we control our fingers and legs and such, but it is possible.. Most all of Us, like 99% of the population is living their lives by Accident, this is the opposite of living life via Consciousness, or Awareness, or via Free Will and Choice. there are many factors at play here, Karma or the residual effect of the actions You have previously taken (action in 4 areas, Body, Mind, Emotion and Energy) plays a huge role, most of Us are unConscious all these actions taking place therefore we are living by Accident or on Autopilot, but to be Human is to make choices, this is our primary gift, Free Will or the Ability to Respond and make choices. If You were to choose, How would You like to feel right now, Blissful or Sad? Like learning any skill, You can learn how to choose how You want to feel, Just imagine no stress response (fight or flight) happening within You right now, its a useful tool when needed, but when everyone is in Stress mode all the time for no reason via over reacting, living not in the present moment but in the past or future, holding resentment, shame, anger or bitterness about something, etc, so if You just eliminate this one thing, for sure Your natural state will be Peacefulness, via this You gain way more clarity and ability to choose how You want to experience life, make the choice, do the work and its Yours for the taking...

I've studied allot of philosophies and spiritual stories about Creation and Reality, my basic temporary conclusion (which can change at anytime), is that there really isn't "Nothing", there is No Thing meaning a realm of non physicality, non materialism I believe, but what is the void, the space or whatever that was there before Creation happened? IMO it was a Grand sort of Intelligence, Absolute is this Intelligence, its not ruled by memory or has no basis or cause, its just always there, and its a Potential/Possibility Machine for lack of better words...Shiva means "That which is Not", its the Source Code for all Creation, and all Creation has this Source Code encoded within It! As Human Beings we have the most Potential to be Conscious of this force on this planet, that is all, hence why we have thousands of Spiritual Practices, Methods, Ideologies and tons of Guru past and present to bring it forth into the World so we have a chance to make this place better than it was before and for Absolute to know itself...

Meditation is not about this, this may be an aspect of it but its not about letting go, shutting the mind down and that sort of thing.. Meditation is a process, it can encompass many Possibilities, it depends on what Your intentions are, what do You want out of it, and there are many techniques.. I don't like to use the word Meditation, its like the word God, its has too many social and thought implications with pre defined definitions of it, some say sitting with eyes closed in cross legged positions means your meditating but that has nothing to do with it.. Results from a meditation will get You what You say above, more creativity, more clarity and such comes to the surface, that is good benefit from it...

Yes, there is Karma, Cause (Source) and Effect (Appearance), this is just one simple way to explain it, without Source or Karma/Cause then how is anything Created? What was there before Creation, just pure Source, which I would describe as Absolute Intelligence or Potential, where anything and everything exists as a sort of idea or thought creation (of course words or logic is limited in explaining this, this cannot be really explained, its unexplainable since logic cannot adequately explain what doesn't exist physically).. Potential is unrealized Expression and Experience, that does not happen in the realm of Absolute or God, it happens here on this realm, Universe and/or planet where Duality exists, Karma, Expression, Physicality and Experience exist, we as Humans have the most ability to be Conscious of this process, play with it and drop it and go back to Absolute or Potential Realm...

The Ultimate Desire is too be Unbounded or Totally Free, this is Liberation or Moskha, where Your merged with Absolute, or some say higher up realms, so yes this is mostly about Absolute Realization, reincarnation I would say is just a cycling program to allow it too happen over a longer period of time for this sort of expression of life as we know it too be... How all of this is happening is a mystery for Me, my only conclusion is that its a program of sorts to allow Potential as we know to be expressed here based on our laws of physics and how our reality is set up, it could be completely different somewhere else in another reality of sorts!

No, Desire is not from the Ego, Desire is life itself, everyone and every living thing want to live to its highest Potential, but Humans with the most innate Potential have to be super Conscious of how this process goes about. Egoic desire process is about Accumulating more ppl, places and things to feel and experience being on top of other Humans, True Desire process is about no more Accumulating anything, just dropping of everything (ppl, places and things) and going back to Your Original nature... If one is driven by Ego though they will want to go thru in their own "Unique" way, and this can take lifetimes to do, if one drops their Ego, they can use established systems to help them discover it within this lifetime or even immediately, it depends on ones karmic makeup....

@ExploringReality Everything has levels to it, if Your starving hungry and cold, your purpose is to get food and warmth, its goes up the ladder, if Your in an Enlightened state your purpose is not to feed Yourself and get warm, so we humans have different Potentials within Us, our purpose is too explore all these Potentials but go thru it untouched, not ruled by it, as once a Potential or Experience has been passed thru, it becomes the past, if your ruled by the past your not truly alive and present but a slave of sorts, potential can never be realized and expressed while in slave mode...

I had this same question, my guess is that there is this realm we call Absolute, its non physical, its completeness and oneness and is all about Potentials, but there is no physicality, no way to express anything or experience anything there, but since Potential and Possibility are what Absolute is all about, somewhere there has to be what we call this Earth and Us and everything else in it, so we are that playing out in a Possibility Equation of sorts, so that Absolute can know it self via all of the life forms living now and ever existed Experiences, otherwise it cannot know itself if there is no mechanism to allow Experience and Expression to exist...

Most Everybody is doing Yoga or Spirituality, its just a matter of how conscious they are of their actions.. Most Everybody wants to be more than what they are right Now, True or False? If its True for You, whether You call it Self help/development or Spirituality, its basically the same things, as with everything there are levels to it, a big problem is ppl read "Enlightenment" stories then afterwards want to be Enlightened, but they can't even keep a stable state of Peacefulness or Happiness for one hour, so they are running before they even know how to stand! This is why systems and Guru's, Ashrams are in place, so one doesn't go out on their own and then end up crazy for doing what they are doing...

There are also tons of cases where ppl have already developed skills in certain areas, as well as well with twins lets say brought up in the same environment with the same DNA growing up to be different individuals, not saying Environment doesn't have a role to play in how we are, it does but ones consciousness level plays a more significant role I would say.. Reincarnation is just a recycling, sooner or later one will come to the Truth of it, it can be done within One lifetime or a span of 80yrs which is nothing compared to thousands upon thousands of lifetimes, if this is what one wants there are established systems in place to facilitate this, but individualism and ego rule in today's day and age, so ppl want to try to figure it out on their own, like reinventing the wheel, lol, its stupid but free will is what makes us what we are!!!

@Yeah Yeah Karma is just a label or descriptive word, used to describe the "Real" mechanics, if there was no Karma there would be no Existence, no basis upon which Cause or Creation can happen, everything that we mostly know to be reality would not be possible without Karma in place, no Universe, no Earth, no You and Your Life as You normally know it... So Karma is just Memory that has an effect on Your present moment, as a Human You have a choice as to how to Respond to this effect, You can Accept it (then Ease or Peace is Your Experience) or reject it, don't accept it (then Unease, disease, stress if Your Experience), that is the basic choice, then from either of these Experiences consequences will result, so we have Cause and Effect in play always once one is here and Embodied and living in a place where Duality and Consciousness and Choice exists!

Body is just one aspect of what makes us Human, there is still the Mind, Emotions and Energy systems and two other bodies of sorts that make up what we are well here and Embodied... You don't get how there is something more to You than just Your Body because Your Awareness of these other "bodies" is not developed yet, its simple, hence why we have practices that put these bodies into Your Awareness.. What goes on they say after Your present day Body dies, is Your Energy Body, Astral Body and Bliss body, embedded in the Energy Body is Your Karma, no discretionary ability is there with You while in this realm, just Your Tendencies picked up from this lifetime added on to all the other tendencies and conditioning/karma that was created via all the other lifetimes (as human, insect, plant, animal, etc) that you have collected over thousands of lifetimes probably, who knows? Depending on how Conscious, or how developed You were Spiritually determines what Body you will go into for the next lifetime... If You reached Enlightenment during this lifetime, and the alloted Karma is used Up, there is still a warehouse of Karma left, but what they say is that at the moment of Enlightenment and dissolution/moskha/liberation your no longer going to go on and live another life and merge no existence or Absolute, but others say You go on to other higher realms... Why is all this happening? My guess it is simply for Absolute to know itself via Experience, Experience on the amoeba level, plant level, insect level, animal level and Human Level which is the top end of the scale as far as we know..We are part of a Possibility/Potential equation, where everything that can be is, so here we have Duality, Consequence/Karma, Materialism/Physicality in existence and we play the game of how to get back to Absolute, via that Experiences happen of all sorts, Trillions upon Trillions of Experiences and via that Absolute Experiences itself..

Yogis Leaving Body By Uttering Om Namah Shivaya ?

How has life changed since the internet came online (91'), since Facebook was created or Iphones? So for Us the evolutionary scale is not as significant, physically we have not change much, but socially and culturally and technologically/knowledge wise we have tremendously, they say that amount of data collected in one day use to take years to collect.. So in the old days, maybe 80yrs ago what You say may be more relevant, but today it is not imo, but I think the power players want us to stay stupid, to keep things relatively the same,, People today instead of being addicted to new information, new ways to do things, new ways to live and experience, are addicted to scrolling on social media, instagram, tik tok, dopamine hits and such, this is the same as going out from the cave and searching for Food, its the same fundamental activity, searching for something you need to live another moment, this imo is manufactured slavery, not a natural progression, luck for Us we have Guru's and Traditions that are time proven to work, and the ppl that have even a small insight can gain access to this and transform their lives... Most ppl are living way below their Potential, their slaves and don't know it and that is tragic!

Its not 1700, its 2025 for the Human Species this is allot of time to evolve... I was just on Vacation in Dominican Republic, its 4th world there, when off the resort its pretty bad, at least by my standards, I know there are worst places in the world but it was bad there, ppl are just very poor, struggling, and it doesn't have to be this way.. We live in the best time ever technologically and with our knowledge of how to Survive and provide what is needed to Survive for All, but this is not Profitable, so that is the reason, and we've been around long enough for the same ole same to end, we have more ability individually and culturally/socially on mass scales to raise Human Consciousness than ever before, but the power players don't want this, they want us to be slaves to everything that touches us, so that is the plan and that is what is sad!