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Because he has a huge following?? That is the whole point to have a huge following... I don't think You understand what is being offered... List anyone with more qualification and why they are more qualified pls and thanks!

Then for sure You are being influenced by your own bias and cannot see it. Plus this thing about if he doesn't agree with You 100% then he is 100% wrong then what can I say, this is for sure Your own bias completely controlling your ability to see outside your box which in the end is destructive...From what You have said in the past your a regular user of LSD so there You go.. Maybe You can handle it, most I bet cannot, so what he says in general terms is good advice imo. Personally I think at the right time and place psychedelics can be useful, but I have allot of discipline and commitment and focus, I can probably do it and not have to use it regularly like many are and get allot out of it while still using Yoga as my primary method of Realization, most do not have it this way, so I do think he is talking to the general public in most of these videos, but I've told You before that this is circus, that doesn't mean he is spreading lies, it means it is not the whole picture of what he is or what the meaning of his work is about, so if You go off of the Utube stuff and such then Your missing it completely!

Ok, here is something that just popped up on my Utube feed, he's talking about Motivation, and how one does not need it! I think his basic message is this, of course this is based off my perception and understanding, and its probably much more than this but just being simplistic here, but the message is if You are Totally Alive to what it means to be Human You don't need anything external to Realize it. Yes we need food, and O2 and that sort of stuff to maintain the body, but we are talking about Spirituality here, realizing the non physical nature of what You are, so whether it is motivation or psychedelics, he doesn't believe it in the end will do You any good, other than living at the Survival level of Awareness which is a tragedy considering we are Human Beings and not any other life form...

Yes Agreed, but with that the state of ppl's mind generally is not in that sort of state where they don't mess things up anyways, so that is where I am coming from.. I think once inawhile, after building some stability/balance within naturally, one can go the psychedelic route to have the grand experience, but not before that, and its once a year or so, not regularly as many are doing.. There is someone posting here now on this sub forum, did some psychedelics, had the grand experience but days later has suicidal thoughts, so that is not healthy..

Well from what I read on here with trip reports and other places, it gives ppl grander experiences, some very grand experiences like "I am God" experiences, then come back from that, then it wears off but they crave it.. Maybe only Leo is beyond this since he has done so much of it and he supplemented it with research, investigation and doing other practices as well, but most here (not all) it seems to me it is not so healthy.. Health is Health, Well being means what, that we are Well in our Being lol, more happy, body works well, mind works for Us, not Us working for the Mind, Emotions are pleasant and balanced, You use it, not it using You and so forth..

Umm where did he say this? After he consecrated the Dylanalinga temple, they say he aged like 20+yrs, and his energy body was almost destroyed, he almost died (was supposed to but chose to use it as an experiment to see if he/they could rebuild it), but with help from others he was able to rebuild it after a few years, since then other than the recent episode with his brain by which he seems to have fully recovered, he's not dependent on anything like that, he uses it, the bracelet and such tools to help him stay within the body and moderate his energies from what I understand but I'm sure he could do this without those things. You have to understand he is focused on other things, not just his own wellbeing and state of existence, so he's probably dealing with allot of outer karmic things, and such esoteric stuff that we don't understand it totally!!

Everything You ingest from the outside affects Consciousness, the Perception of Reality as it is, this is especially True with psychedelics which are much more directly related to this than say food or what you watch with Your eyes... So its fair to say that if You are regularly ingesting psychedelics then if not careful you could do harm on all sorts of levels, most are not prepared for it on any of the basic levels of what makes them who they are, Body, Mind, Emotions and Energy.. Its only been 5 yrs, long term is 15yrs plus even more... I've only done weed, never anything stronger, from my research on this topic in the long run is that overall regular use is not healthy..

@Breakingthewall If You watch this there many details he presents, in many areas of things, You probably won't see it, you flip flop around with him, that is not my concern.. I post replies when You get this way because its a counter point, he is for sure one of the most positive forces on the planet no doubt about that, You say negative I will counter with positive, because who knows who is reading this and needs his assistance, for sure they will not read You or Me since we are basically no bodies, we can karmically help balance the world by being realized beings within ourselves, this is a hidden benefit to the world, but there are too few of us, he is doing much more than this, and its needed, when its not needed ppl like him won't be here...

Yes, and now what is funny lately Leo has been sounding just like Sadhguru in some of his replies, they are almost identical advice lol which include how to's, and general spiritual advice and epistemology, which just indicates to me that in the end they are all saying the same things, just the way they got there may be different..

He doesn't consume mercury everyday lol, and I posted some videos of him describing as best as one can do with language how creation happened via the perspective of the yogic sciences, it was very detailed, plus I have the thread in the Higher Consciousness section where he gets into more details... I'm not sure why you continually accuse him of being simplistic, as well the whole point of what he is doing is to remove the blockages lol, he talks about that all the time, I truly think You have a personal problem with him, something You are not conscious of is skewing Your perception of him. No one is saying trust him, but no one is saying dis trust him, be skeptical, that is okay, being cynical like You are with him will skew Your view big time.. If You want to know what he is about then do some of his practices and see, that is where You will find what he is about, not via the videos and pictures and books, this is circus as he has stated a million times...

@Majed Your all Doing and Having, no Being is involved and therefore You suffer... First establish Your Being, at least to a point where Your Peaceful of Your own nature, no matter what is going on, this is 0 on a scale of 10 in Human Potential being Peaceful, we can be much much more than Peaceful within naturally, but without this first being established You will Suffer whatever happens in Your life, success, failure, marriage, singlehood, wealth, no wealth, kids or no kids, just telling You from experience.. I wish I learned this when I was in my 20's... the forumla is this, first BE-->DO--->HAVE, or BE--->HAVE--->DO..

yes read it, funny how this video popped up lol...

Everything is like this, when I first started training in martial arts it was very hard, physically, mentally and emotionally as well I had to understand the underlying principals and concepts, both mentally and physically of what I was learning but the hard work paid off then one day magic happened and things came out by themselves in a perfect way, I remember it vividly, from there one has to chose what to do, go further or stay in that zone, going further requires much more discipline, work and effort with less results, yes you progress but the increments of improvement are not as much since Your already at a top level and there is not much more room to go further,,, So its not just in the realm of psychedelics that this happens, all aspects of life are this way when You are true seeker in whatever field You are in and sincere about it...the problem with drugs and psychedelics is that it plays with the internal world, and if there is no solid base of Experience already established then one can quite quickly be suffering the consequences, plus ingesting anything from the outside to affect the inside is never healthy over the long run... In the end one has to realize they can produce whatever experience they want, they can know whatever it is they want to know naturally without ingesting anything from the outside, if You strive enough it will happen, it is our Human Potential!

This sort of thinking is similar to those that think Ignorance is Bliss, then life hits You hard and nothing changes then end of life happens and You wonder why it was this way, why all the suffering then lights out and start all over again.. We are above this!

Sadhguru on the situation of Ram Das meeting Neem Karoli Baba and giving him the LSD, and why taking external intoxicants or other things is not healthy in the long run, and why this is so.. Everything is found within Yourself, all Experiences possible only happen within You, if this was not the Truth, then how come You have Grand or Depressive Experiences and I/We know nothing of it? So, the only question is a matter of control, can You control what is the Experience within Yourself? Yes You can, it is quite possible, its just a matter of knowing How!

Yes, but Meditation is too simple a definition or word, Sadhana (Spiritual Practice) is a better word, most ppl when they hear the word Meditation think of a person cross legged and eyes closed but this is not it.. So Sadhana comes in many many forms, You have to find out what works best for You and what Your Intentions are, this is why a Guru is important, they help You with this and almost tailor the Sadhana to fit Your personality and karmic makeup, I recommend Sadhguru! Start with his free Isha Kriya, its a 12 min practice and its very effective, try it for month see what happens!

BEINGNESS, is being of High Consciousness, this means Your Highly Aware of the Reality as it is (Clarity), Your Living in this Present Moment Absolutely (so your not a slave to past/memory or future/imagination), Your Accepting of Everything as it Is (this moment is Inevitable!), and via all of that Your Responding, not reacting, responding is a Conscious Action, reacting is a Unconscious Action.. When all of this is established, Your naturally Peaceful, on the way to being naturally Blissful, Energies Awaken and Intensify, Enlightenment is on its way, now all You have to decide is do I want to be here and continue the play or go and merge with Absolute and lose all individuality??

We are so super addicted to our Intellects, that tools we have that is wrapped around our Identity and uses our Memory to function, it always wants to know how things work but its a breaking down tool, it cuts things up puts them in compartments and then we can see it, but it separates everything and when we are identified with it in a way it make us feel Separate, and this is low Level of Consciousness, Survival Level of Living and BEINGNESS, so that is not what it means to be Human, Animals and other life forms live this way and are limited this way but not Us, so its tragic really when the majority of Humans are living below their Potential... I think the Idea of that we/creation came from NO Thing Ness is a good realization, but it is not really No Thing, its a sort of Intelligence, its non physical in nature, so in that aspect its a No Thing, but its something its just that we cannot perceive it via our 5 senses, but we can perceive in other ways, this is what the Yogis, Rishis, Enlightened Beings have been telling us for Millenia, and sharing how we too can be in touch with it as well!

Agreed.. I think the key Quality of a Gnana Yogi is Clarity, You Perceive Reality as it is, not via the filters of mind, ideology, karma or whatever...I don't think one can get to high Spiritual Levels of Realization via information coming in like we use today, by reading, watching and such, it can inspire and allow some changes to occur but one would already have to be quite advanced to have something they read transform them imo... Intellect is like a magnifying glass, it puts super focus on something, where as Enlightenment is seeing the Whole picture, both are possible and needed..

Salvijus answered above, my interpretation of it I learned in Sadhguru's IE course, Responsibility means my Ability to Respond, if You limit it, then You limit Life itself as You experience it within You, if it is unlimited then Your Life will open up big time. In basic language it means for most ppl they are only Responding to what is important to them, their own lives, family/Friends, small communities or what interests them.. Lots of this is based of Your Likes and Dislikes, the more diverse and long this list is, the more conflicted and un responsive You will be, if You delete Your list of Likes/Dislikes, or stop Identifying with it, then again Life opens up, Your Available to all of it, not just what is around You and what You deem important, not important, you won't respond to what is not important or of value to You, that means Your not allowing that aspect of Life to come into Your Perception or Awareness, hence Your conflicted and divided and separate from Life, not One, Complete and Whole...

Yes, You had in your case a "Grand Experience" I would say, but there is still some karma at play that is not conscious to You yet, so what happens? A sort of panic maybe or resistance, so things of this nature have to be more slow and steady, like building a house or building, You don't put up the roof first, it will collapse without any walls, which will collapse if there is no foundation laid up first... This is the problem with the non dualist here, too unbalanced and not seeing the whole picture, they are half right I would say, but half right is dangerous!

@Someone here The Boundary is the Body and/or Sensory Body, so it is easy to draw a distinction between Me and the World, but at the same time it is also possible to expand this Sensory Body and make it encompass the Entire Universe, this is what the Spiritual Path is about, its a Potential, not a reality for those that are still in the Experience of Body is Me, my 5 sense organs are what is the boundary of my Experience beside what I feel within myself, so its relative, its not a set Truth until Experienced. So what You said is True, but so is the person experiencing the opposite, that they are NOT Everything, no connection, all Separation from Everything, that is where work is to go from one experience to the other... To just state 'This is the Truth" all else is false, is not totally correct, its too Absolutist, to focused on that Realm, which is not Relative at all, to encompass all of it, too see and understand the WHOLE picture, one has to see/Experience the Absolute in the Relative, which is why we are here as Humans, only we can do this, no other life form on this planet can... To go from the absolute Relative Experience to the Absolute Experience in one big leap is dangerous IMO, it will totally mess someone up if they do this without stabilizing and ground work done before hand, its like giving a Homeless person a Billion Dollars, they will be worse off in the end...

Yes, How can You even go in the direction if Your emotionally up and down everyday, so first baby steps, get to be Peaceful Naturally, then go from there, if Your Volition is to go all the way, then it will happen naturally, with less force and more Ease. If You go the Suffering route, then its a dbl edge sword, Suffering is also Intensity of Experience, but if You cannot handle it then You won't come back from the Suffering, you'll drowned in it, so I wouldn't recommend going that route.. Your obviously interested in Spiritual Path and such things, so first Establish Peace as Your Natural Experience, don't think or be concerned with anything else besides that, then when that is set you'll naturally go further..

@Sugarcoat Most do not want this, or total loss of Self, their live, family/friends, career and such, they just want less stress, more Ease, more Peace, and eventually overall Bliss and Well Being, and we are hardwired to be this way, just read a trip report, there is much fear when going on a strong trip, where is this fear coming from? Ego identity, self Identity, small little me and my situation identity, this is natural up until a point where it is not wanted, like going to grade school forever, sooner or later You want to go to high school, then college or university, and then to graduate right, its like this, but ppl get stuck along the way, or zig zag thru life, going in this direction then changing directions constantly, so they are really living by accident, Being Conscious means living on purpose with a road map and clarity of knowing where exactly to go...

Life is not really weird, its just most of Us are living via Experience on the surface level of it, just accumulating and gathering, we want more experience, more $$, more relationships, more knowing, more and more and more, this is a natural by the way, this is Desire, but we identify with a Body and Mind (thoughts, emotions, thinking, ideology) and via that identification, we only accumulate in a certain way, mostly physical, 5 sense organ gratification sort of way, most everything everyone is desiring is based on one of the sense organs, just look at it.. Now this is low level of Awareness, Survival Level of Living Life (Life is Absolute being Manifested and Realized in a Form of Sorts, on this dual, material, karmic planet), as Humans we have way more Potential.. Its like stating something is a Miracle! If You were to bring a person from 500yrs ago, even 100yrs ago and bring them into the society of today and show them the technology we are using, they would say it is a Miracle, but it is not really, its just Science being discovered (Reality being uncovered, or being put into Awareness), and then Usage of it being Applied to practical use, that is what Technology is, so it is the same with Living this Life, as Humans we can live way beyond Survival Level, whereas all other life forms are stuck in Survival Level, so once You go on this path, what seems like a Miracle to You if Your a Newbie, is normal if You've been into it for awhile, we get Used to Peace, Happiness, Intensity of Experience, Clarity and even Bliss, You want to eventually go beyond all of this, and be Liberated, but don't even think about that until You get the Peace thing down pat, as a normal Life Experience, if Your not at that level Yet, don't be concerned with Liberation or Enlightenment..