Ishanga

Whats all the fuss about ?

Scientific Research Proof of Isha Practices and Yoga in General- 19 Peered Reviewed Publication in 5yrs Relationship Quality- Meditation Enhances -relationship Quality - interpersonal connection - compassion for others Mystical Experiences - 70% of Advanced Meditation Participants report Mystical Experiences vs. 40% in psychedelics users Parent/Child connection - Qualitive Studies show meditation betters all around relationship with Children Spiritual/Psychological Growth - Immersive program shows improvement in psychological balance.. Sadhguru with Dr. Vivek Murthy Surgeon General...

Sounds like You want to tell him what to say or not say, so what is that about, no personal choice of what to say in someone's life??? Yes he has millions that listen to what he says, he has a responsibility but I think he is very aware about that. There are all sorts of topics that come up in the Spiritual sphere, and I've heard him say many times he doesn't like to talk about things outside of ppl's present experience, but at times things come up, so he talks about it according to his own experience, personally I don't care about that stuff, its the other practical things he shares that concerns me.. You have to understand he's been doing this for decades, at times topics come up, he shares, but the majority of what he shares (like the one I shared at the start of this thread) are very on point, practical and needed!

lol no different than Leo or anyone here making claims to be God, or knowing it all, at least he has some credibility that no one here has!

LOL, I think You are totally cherry picking, out of the thousands of video's that Sadhguru shares, you think he is only talking about subjects like trees bleeding? come on be serious, if Your going to make a claim then do some research, don't cherry pick... Even he calls all this video and talking Circus, its crazy stuff for him, but its needed in this day and age, if not talking then no one listens and the world stays the same, so he has to do circus, he doesn't take it seriously for sure, but its needed to create curiosity and many benefit just from that, but there is way more to it, what You see of Sadhguru on Youtube is not it or what he is about!

Who is Entertaining? If communication of some sort is not there, then what to do? Why is Leo or Sadhguru communicating at all? They have an intention, to share something important to them for others to benefit, is that Entertainment? I don't think so, plus there are methods shared to, that for sure is not entertainment!

@UnbornTao

Good Docu on how we can make change, the way it is now is not working for sure, but there is a way to change!

This is establishing Your BEING, that means I determine what/how I experience this life. Illusion/Maya does not mean nothing exists, it means it exists in a way you don't know about. Before Awakening a tree is just a tree, another person is another person, after Awakening a Tree is a miracle, another person is YOU, so that is a huge difference. First decided do I want to live a householders life, which is what You said above, a family, work, social life, dealing with society and such, or do you want to go full on with Spiritual Life, more of what You are experiencing and go all the way with it, make up Your Mind and then go full into it...

Tantrics make trees grow instantly!

There's no such thing, its not about him, its about You, and everyone else.. If You get on any train, it only goes one way, its limited, don't go in any direction because of this person or that person, go on it because it draws You in, but You have Your senses about You, Your inborn Awareness that says this is the way to go for now.. So there is no Sadhguru Cult, no need for him to have anyone in his life, too believe anything that he says, that is the main difference, he's not doing it for fame, fortune, success, if he was, with his talent, why be a Guru then? He does it because he's a devotee to You and all of Us...

As the Princess says, Life is only Happening Now, and its just Happening, but as a Human You only have one thing to do about what is Happening, and that is how You Respond to what is Happening, this makes all the difference. No Other life here has this option, they just instinctually react, that is unconsciousness, Responding is Consciousness in action.. In Sadhguru's IE course, he talks about "This Moment is Inevitable" it is the way it is, and it couldn't be any other way, but how You Respo0nd to it makes all the difference, because if You react to it and are Unconscious of it, then it will pull You back into it over and over again, Your trapped in the "Past", but if You Consciously Respond, then Your Open to what may happen in the "Future" and the Future is unwritten, its an endless choice of Potential ready to open up, You choose how to use it and BE within it, that is the Gift we have as a Human Being!

Yes agreed, very hard to use words to describe it and such, how can one when it comes to the Absolute. We can Experience it in some intense ways, but even those ppl that go to those places have a hard time telling what it is like, I've never really had a Mystical Experience, never seen ghosts, or have strange dmt dreams, nor have I ever done psychedelics but have smoked pot on occasion, its slows the perception of time down for me, 5min feels like an hour, and some of the experiences I have had when stoned, when watching a movie or something its a strange sensation of Experience, certain emotions, creativity arises and intensity in both with the slowness of time perception, its interesting for sure, but not near the whole story which can never really be told I would imagine with the larger scales of Potential that exists,

Oh yes for sure then, Potential is always there, higher level of Awareness and Consciousness bring about this Potential rising affect, and maybe that is what can be seen as well, or maybe not since it is not a part of any pattern, and in a way it is different from the previous patterns of Karma, because Potential means something there that wasn't there before right? Not sure if that makes any sense:)

Yes, on the relative level Experience matters, meaning matters and such things.. On the Absolute level, nothing of the sort matters, so there are levels to this stuff, we are here to explore all these levels and have the ability to do so, other life does not so that is the main difference btwn Us and most every other life out there that we know of.. So the more we explore this range of levels, the more Absolute experiences itself, sort of a loop or once again a cycle happening..

I don't know on this one.. if creation/karma is finished then what is there to see?

Not me on any high level lol, some gifts are more easy for some to have, others have a harder time to get it... But don't get trapped in the gift, like in star wars, beware of the dark side of the force:) I think our minds/brains make whatever is recognized into a story board like thing almost instantly so its more enabled to be Experienced...my guess anyways:)

Yes I think so too, but beneath these pure being layers, there may not be an Experience possible for one to know anything about it. I think we are here as Humans so that Experience is possible on a high level, compared to an Amoeba which is Life as well, but not in our league when it comes to its ability to Experience. This is happening so Absolute can Experience itself, in all its varied ways, from Amoeba to Us and the Billions of Us that have existed...But what is happening beneath all of this is well something I haven't really contemplated other than reading about other realms and such things...

My Theory on Pre Cognition, how some can see this supposed Future, is that they really don't see the Future (Future does not exist yet, nothing is really predetermined, everything is being created right now), they see patterns, Karma is in play everywhere, it is the thing that allows all actions and reactions, cause and effect to happen, that is what is being seen, the patterns and cycles that exist on all levels of Creation. When one does high levels of Intense Sadhana, they get gifts, Siddhis they call them, one of them is the pre cognition ability, they can see the karmic print out of everything, everyone. Existence, most of it anyways is cyclical in nature, if You can recognize these cycles accurately, You can predict or see the future.. Just imagine having all the data available on a high level company, you know everything about that company, who works in it, their history and capabilities, the plans of the company, what it is creating and has created, if You know this, and the market it operates in, you can make a fortune, because You know its future.. Its the same with this, know the cycles know the future...

If Time is a Construct (I agree in many ways it is) then in a way it does exist, it exists on the level of Experience... This thing about Absolute and Relativity is interesting, I would equate BEINGNESS with Absolute, Your intouch with it on the Relative Level of Life as we know it here, most ppl are not intouch with it, but its the primary action and realization that one should have in life first and foremost. It allows all the Potential that exists within You to come forth.. For Me Potential and Absolute are basically the same thing.. After BEINGNESS, there is DOING and HAVING, either or can come behind BEING, the thing is we have to deal with all of it in this Relative Life here, if Your Just BEINGNESS, which is okay for some, then there is no family, no work, no social, no nothing when it comes to the other dimensions mentioned, if You can do that that is Great, if not then we have to deal with those other dimensions, if You deny them, it will bite You in Your Ass for sure...

I'm as much a Truth seeker as You or Leo or anyone here... If You read what You wrote above objectively, Your blinded by some sort of belief in something, if You buy into Solipsism that is fine, that is You, don't say that You are "Really" in search of Truth and I or others are not because we don't buy into what You do, that is nuts... You do You, do what You want, believe what You want, don't question what others are in search of based on Your beliefs, thats how wars start, just ignore it if it bothers You or doesn't subscribe to what Your into, make Your arguements, I will do the same, if we don't still agree then we agree to disagree...

Yes partially, its about Identification, we have too many identifications going on within Us, so we fracture ourselves in a way, I am this, I am that, then does that mean I am many things? This a medical/psychological problem, multiple personality disorder, but we have normalized it, so the basic identity is either I am Everything (Cosmic Identity) or I am Life, or I don't know what I am and lets not make conclusions about it and seek to know... The practice combines using Your thoughts and simple breathing and mantras too stabilize your emotionally, and keep You centered, laying a solid foundation for everything else to come..slow and steady program as I see it, nothing to drastic in experiences and such which can take you off track, you just start to get peaceful and at ease.. Listen to his talks too on Acceptance, Responsibility, this Moment is Inevitable, and such things, made big changes in my life...

Hi, I would try the Isha Kriya, its free and available to everyone, its a 12 min practice here, I did it first and it changed things allot.. Sadhguru advises ppl not to be concerned about him on a personal level, of judging him or his qualifications directly, try out the methods, if they work continue to use them, and the more advanced stuff (Inner Engineering and Bhavana Spanda and onwards), if they don't work for You then stop and do something else, give it a try. Skepticism is good, it means Your Seeking, cynicism is not so good as it means You've made a Conclusion, and probably based on bias or not enough research (what other ppl think, not personal experience).. He doesn't claim to be the basis of Your "Salvation", he claims each of us are equally enabled, just as enabled for Spiritual Enlightenment as He is, its just a matter of Willingness and as a Guru he can help You do it within this lifetime rather than many...