Ishanga

Humans, like all matter are just specks, tiny objects that are born and eventually die, we created the words and concepts (by which most all are addicted to via their addiction to intellect and meaning and definitions etc), Truth or Reality was there long before we came around and will be there long after we are all gone... It is just we can be in touch with it, Experience up to a certain level, merge with it like a drop of the Ocean going back into the Ocean..

Spirituality is not wrong, its just misinterpreted and used wrongly as most things are today, everything that is created that is empowering for a Human Being or all Life, eventually when it gets organized and mass produced or shared gets corrupted, because most human beings are corrupted in some way or form. What is Human Nature anyways? Most of it is Karma passed along thru the lifetimes and the present day conditioning that is promoted in everything that our Culture produces.. True Spirituality does not deny anything, it just tells You that You are not this thing You are cling to, the thing that is causing you Pain or Joy, Love or Hate, Success or Failure, rather it says it is just a game, and that You are in control of it, but its a matter of How Conscious/Unconscious You are of this process and that there is more Potential within You to not let it affect You current State unless You want it too...

@Eskilon I like to promote the Peace or Bliss path as I like to call it vs. this path of insanity or austerity or other paths that too me mean allot of suffering involved.. First, don't concern Yourself with this term or thing we call "Awakening" or Enlightenment or such higher up concepts, just be concerned with where You are at right now and take baby steps. The first baby step is establishing some stability in some ways, making Yourself Physically Healthy, Mentally/Emotionally in a pleasant state of Peacefulness, and Your Energies are free of blockages and are Intense in Your Experience... If You do this, and Suffering becomes practically impossible for You (Pain is always possible, but Pain is not the same as Suffering), then naturally Your Potentials will open up, Kundalini will rise up, what You found interesting before will no longer be interesting to You since Your becoming more Aware and Conscious of what it means to be Human. There are many techniques out there to make this process happen very smoothly, why reinvent the wheel when we have proven ways to make Yourself Peaceful, Healthy and full of Well Being...

lol, the Rishis, Mystics and Gurus have been sharing the information for Millenia, very few listen...nothing here on this forum or shared elsewhere is completely New, its builds upon itself and adapts for the ppl that are here today, what Buddha Taught and Shared was good for that time space, it helps now too but things have to be for what is here today, and the varied Human Being personalities, karma types, and conditioning processes going on now!

Well like I've always said to You, Your half right in many ways... On one level there is nothing happening here, and no one to have it happen too, that is the Absolute perspective, but there is also the Relative perspective, and right now there are 8 Billion + Relative Perspectives, its important on a certain level, as it the Absolute Perspective, both have their place.. My place in this context is practicality, and functioning on the Human level (not the Being Level), while trying to make life and its situations more healthy, peaceful/blissful and mor empowered so someone can access more Potential in their lives and function more from the Human or Absolute Level...

Whether its peeing or any other body or mind function, most ppl live it Compulsively, and this is one of the definitions of Karma, Karma is in play on many levels within a person, peeing is just one bodily function that is happening on autopilot, but there are ppl that do not have to pee if they don't want to, as there are ppl that can slow or even stop their heart beating, or breathing or most any other bodily or mind function, they have total control over those aspects of themselves, but these are masters per say they've spent many years cultivating these abilities. Most all ppl today live Compulsively, meaning they don't know any of the actions taking places on the 4 levels of Action, Body, Mind, Emotion and Energy, which makes up most of the Human aspect of what we are... Decisions are not just happening, they are being made, I choose to believe or buy into something completely contrary to what You believe (that no one is here, nothing is happening etc,), I believe there is someone here, billions of someones, and there is lots happening here, your belief (for lack of a better word) is one possibility, you've chosen it for whatever reason, visa versa for what i buy into, those are "Choices" being made, not just happening!!

The very fact that there are various opinions, beliefs, understandings, experiences of Reality as it is (all this indicates a range of possibilities) proves that Free Will exists, ppl are choosing what to believe, think, understand and experience, its only a matter of how Conscious You are of this process (again its Karma at play, whether You believe in Karma or not it exists, you couldn't function, type, start posts, reply to posts without karma existing).. Why have Free Will? Because Life goes allot more smoothly when You are aware of Your Free Will abilities and it allows You to reach higher up Potentials within Yourself (think Homeless/Broke/Addicted vs. Thriving/Creative Energy/Peace/Blissful naturally).. Deny it all You want, nothing will happen in Your life if You don't have the basics set, basics are ability to use Free Will and Peaceful nature...

Ok,, By the way that is a choice, if there are options available then choice is available, I have my karma, guru and free will, and You have nothing, that is choice as stated above which indicates Free Will...

Where's Your Proof that Free Will/Responsibility doesn't exist?? Are we all just to take Your word as absolute Truth, I don't think so...

@PurpleTree You've been responding (response ability) to all these responses to your OP, prove positive that Free Will and Response Ability exists, most do not even fathom this in their life, but everything that is happening to them within themselves Experientially is either a reaction or response, reaction is Unconsciousness (like walking around with a blindfold on), responding is Consciousness (walking around with eyes wide open). Anyone that has more than one post here proves that Free Will and Response Ability exists lol.. It comes at various levels, Karma is at play (the Tendencies and Habits/Conditioning) that is ruling Your life, the more You are Unconscious of Your Karma, the less Free Will/Responsibility You have, and visa versa.. The main thing with Free Will is not about having total control of Life situations, but Total Control of Your Life Experience, the Greatest Spiritual Master, all knowing, all Seeing, all Experiencing can still be hit by a car and die by accident.. So Free Will is our basic Capability, to not exert even a bit of it is tragedy...

I've dealt with Suicide in my family, my nephew at 25 died by suicide, it devastated the family for a very long time.. I'm myself at low times have had suicidal ideations, and even at times now with some challenges I am going thru, its not like I want to kill myself, its a matter of not wanting to really exist, as I don't have the courage I think to really harm myself.. From what I understand, ppl go into trance like states and then they do it, my nephew had a drinking and drug problem at the time he did it, I don't have those issues at all.. My issue feels more like I don't want to play this "Human" game anymore, as I am aware of this present game set up, how the world works and I don't want to be involved with it anymore, I'm more into a Mayasamadhi sort of feeling than suicide, but I can't do that now because of personal responsibilities, Wife and a Daughter and family sort of thing, I wouldn't want to put them thru that like it was with my nephew as the family suffers allot as well when the person is gone and all the Why's and such coming up and if anyone could have done something to prevent it..

I wouldn't say its the only way, but it is a way!

You transcend it by not being so intouch with it, the Body and Mind complex, right now the majority of Us are super Attached or Identified with our Body/Mind complex whether we are Conscious or Unconscious of it! The more Identified with Body/Mind You are the more anything that touches it will hurt, its that simple, the opposite is true too, the more removed and detached/unidentified with it You are, the less it hurts.. The Path of going thru intense Suffering as a way to Realization is a very dangerous path, especially today with super identification situations with many aspects of one's self the people are involved with, most will not make it to the other side like the like of Frankl and others, much better to go the Peace or Bliss path, as slower and steadier/safer path for sure imo...

Its a clear sign of where we are as Human Kind when we look up to the like of Ozzy and Hogan....Ppl only say the things they say about them because of how these two affected their Personal Experience, but its pretty low down the scale..Yeah wrestling is fun to watch once in a blue moon, but when its Your Life and means something to You then Your in trouble, same with heavy metal...

@TheGod We call ourselves Human Being, there are two aspects to this.. Human is social, procreation, desire being fulfilled mostly on the Survival or Accumulation level, more People, Places, Things, Experiences, Accomplishments Gathered over time to make one feel a sense of Doing/Having and Fulfilment! Then there is Being, Being is Absolute, God, Brahman, and such Spiritualistic terms, its Oneness, Completeness, Connectedness, Peace/Bliss and Knowing, this is what the Spiritual Path is about, having these Experiences and becoming One/Absolute/God within Yourself. We can choose which level to live on as this is our basic Human Quality and Capability, which most do not explore but we can if we choose too.. Your afraid of Solitude because Your identity is most Human Based, Humans need Humans to survive better and fulfill social needs and such, if You really want to explore the Being aspect of it then Solitude and proper environments (like Ashrams) are needed to get away from the need to Survive another day and continue the Accumulation process..

I would say God/Absolute or Source Intelligence sets up the playing field, for the purpose of knowing itself, for that too happen all possibilities have to be able to be explored, for that to be in place "Reasons" for things happening on the Grand Scale can't be in place, nor does determinism apply, everything is possible within the next moment, the only time determinism is in place is after the fact, we has humans make the choices as to how to play the game and navigate it either joyfully or via stress and suffering as most are doing it, we don't control everything but only our response to it if your conscious enough to gain that ability.. God is just the facilitator of the arena, we play the game and live the consequences...

Do we know all there is too know about an Atom, one of the smallest aspects of reality? Does anyone know all there is too know about a cloud, a leaf, a blade of grass, or anything else on this planet? No they don't but these things affect all life, even a tiny Bee affects life as we know it, so reason will only go so far, beyond that is mystical experiences and grand knowing's that are not logic based or explained via logic or reason...

God has nothing to do with what is happening on Earth, it is the Life here that is responsible for that, even the animals have a limited sense of Free Will, but compared to our access to Free Will they are dominated to their primal instinct which is survival based, we are not as limited even though most never access their Free Will very much.. When we put the direction of our lives and the Responsibility for it, including what is happening Socially and Culturally, to the Divine or God or whatever You want to call it, then we are neglecting the basic right of every Human Being and that is they can control the quality of their lives and the main direction of it, of course anyone can die via an accident at anytime, there lies the randomness of life which again has nothing to do with God or Absolute, it is just the way it is when there is an element of Chaos in the world too...All Potentials are realized here, where Sameness lives, Chaos can live as well, its what makes life spicy:)

Maya or Illusion does not mean something does not exist, it means things exist but not as You think or perceive it too be, so God Realization exists, as does Unconsciousness or lack of God Realization, its just a matter of choice.. Again, doing nothing, effortlessness is very hard to do or be in a state of, it is a path onto itself, but most are not capable of effortlessness, their Karma is too strong or their Situation (Samsara) is too difficult to deal with...

Things happen more so I think out of consequence than reason, the holocaust happened due to a set of consequences, it was horrible as are the wars of today, but there is no reason... God means Absolute which filters down to Us as a Grand sort of Intelligence that allows most all Possibility to exist, this intelligence is a Potential making machine and allows it too be expressed, so if a concept of Love exist its opposite Hate exists too, for US humans it means we must get to a point of Consciousness that we can exert Free Will in our lives and choose how to Be within Ourselves, most I am sure would choose Love or Bliss to be their inner state always and via that if enough ppl do this no wars will be possible...

You can say it is both, it depends on what language and intention you want to access.. Its Gaining more Possibility in Your Life, or it is Losing everything that is not You in Your Life to realize what You really are, so the language is important if You realize how to use it but in the end it is not about the language or communication, its about what You want out of Life, how You want to Experience it and where does the Potential of Life take You and how far does it go!

This is true, this idea that Nothing has to be done, Nothing is happening, well can You do it is the real question, can You do nothing, no thinking, no believing, no egoism and so forth, most cannot because they don't even know what is happening within themselves, never mind stopping it.. Lots is happening, lots is going on, lots of action is taking place, its just in the manner of how conscious are you of these actions, within Yourself especially.. Its super funny seeing ppl post such comments saying nothing is happening and nothing has ever happen when they have 10,000+post to prove otherwise!!!

Yes, past is just Memory, future is just Imagination, this is super helpful for Surviving another day and this sort of stuff, its not useful for Spiritual Matters and Realization..In reality there is just NOW, life is a everlasting NOW moment..

The need for seminars, retreats and practices is simply to allow the Love to flow out of You! The Love is always there, as is the Hate, and any other Emotion or Feeling, but Hate destroys Life, Love Enhances it, so the choice has to be made within the Individual what they want to Experience and Exude, and if it is not a natural flow of Love coming out then there is usually something blocking this natural flow, the practices and such remove the blockages and allow nature to take its course!

Its not a Belief, or a Disbelief, its just an openness to it. we are not limited to believing or disbelieving, we can also just be open to a different possibility, and thru trial and error we find out, I don't know if I'll ever be able to find out for sure if the atoms in my body are in communication/connection with every other atom in existence but who knows eh? With reincarnation, some physical verification of some form can via a show I was watching with Neil Degrasse Tyson , in it he said within our DNA is the DNA of a flower, a bee, tree, and so forth, so if that is so it sort of confirms in a physical way our history thru this existence, if the dna of other life is within Us then maybe we were it in a previous life time??