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Dr. Dabber Boost Evo
Device for vaporizing 5-MeO-DMTHi,
This is my first post with this account, but I've been an Actualized.org follower since 2016. I had another account with a couple dozens posts, but since that revealed my real identity (with a lowercase i) I create this new one.
Recently, I acquired 5-MeO-DMT (freebase) myself for the first time (already having 40+ psychedelic trips by then). Given the challenges in properly vaporizing it with torch lighters and whatnot, I looked for alternatives. I found this E-Rig named "Dr. Dabber Boost Evo" (image below) to work quite well, so I'd like to share it with the community. My friend and I have reliably and successfully tripped on 3 separate occasions using it. You can very easily and quickly inhale 10-15mg. I haven't tried larger doses yet, but I anticipate there should be no problems. I also anticipate it should work well for regular DMT (aka N,N-DMT).
I have found the "orange" temperature color, corresponding to 371 °C (700 F), to be the best. That coincides with what Google says is the boiling point of 5-MeO-DMT, namely 370.5 °C. Lower temperatures don't fully vaporize it and you're left with some of the spice melted in the corners of the banger.
After turned on, it takes 11 seconds to reach the set temperature, which is when the device vibrates and turns green (indicating it's time for the dab). However, I start to vape before it actually turns green -- around the 6 seconds mark -- since I found some of the spice is already vaporized by then. This probably happens due to irregular heating of the banger; parts of it will be hotter sooner.
Cheers, happy & safe tripping. Do your research before using anything and treat psychedelics with the respect they deserve.
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E-cigarette vape cartridges guide
best 5 meo dmt vaporizer/vape pen for real time managment control@halfknots Thanks man, that is very informative! I am from germany, so all these things are difficult to find. Can someone here in europe help? Here are the most important things for the 5 meo vape pen:
"How Jaguar Vape Pens are Made
Supplies
Liquid Carrier: Herbal extract liquidizer or other carrier (Common polyethylene glycol-based carriers work well, such as DBMix Pro or DBMixPro on Ebay or PEG400, though any vaporizer solution in which the 5-MeO-DMT dissolves completely will work, with the caveat that some solutions might not be viscous enough and could leak out these cartridges) 0.5 mL glass oil cartridges (Such as: CCELL TH2 cartridge) Batteries that match the cartridge (Such as: CCELL M3 Battery) 20 mL Clear Glass Screw-cap Vials Blunt Needle Syringes for filling cartridges Standardized Weighing Papers (Such as : LabExact or similar)" ((For what do I need that? I have a mg weight scale already) source: https://erowid.org/chemicals/5meo_dmt/5meo_dmt_article2_vape_pens.shtml
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Non-rebuildable atomiser (Sub ohm)
The 5-MeO-DMT Mega-ThreadThere is an episode titled “Updated : DMT Vaping With The Zeus Sub Ohm” from Minty Love. It's about how to make non-rebuildable atomiser tank vaping (“sub ohm”) work for you.
That episode is the one from which I learnt most of the stuff that I will talk below. I compiled a short how-to guide to vaping to complement the Minty’s video. It’s for those people who tried snorting or plugging 5-meo-dmt (or 5-meo-malt) but want to try a different ROA (route of administration). I get a feeling from talking to others that vaping is a superior psychedelic delivery method that most people will find their way to in the end. But there are some supplies you need to buy first and a bit of learning curve to this. Another reason why vaping appeals to me is that once you’ve figured out how to do it, it’s available at a moment’s whim any time any place. So, you can make it a permanent lifestyle fixture (i.e., work it into your routine somehow).
Shree pointed out to me that with his emesh rda, vaping smoke smelt like burnt rubber and I never had that problem with sub ohm, which inspired me to write this very guide. In general, I would describe the 5-meo smell more pleasant than unpleasant.
I also have some experience smoking n,n-dmt in the GVG Vapour Genie pipe. I fumbled a lot with it and made mistakes. Nothing wrong with the pipe if you know what you’re doing. But the trips were very difficult on me because I used a lot of substance. Vaping allows you more control over the dosing. In this way, you won’t blast yourself to the smithereens by accident. So if you mostly use a pipe and the going is hard, this could be a reason for you to try ejuice vaping.
Supplies you’ll need to buy:
0) Psychedelic (e.g., 5-meo-dmt or 5-meo-malt). Since the freebase version of 5-meo-dmt is as available as the HCL version, you can go with the freebase version.
But what about 5-meo-malt? I haven’t heard from anyone about the freebase version being available anywhere. There’s a way to convert HCL to freebase as discussed here.
However, recently What Am I highlighted that if you dissolve your 5-meo in a liquid vehicle, then you can just use the HCL version. No conversion is (arguably) required.
If you’ve gone emesh rda, you’re not affected by the above discussion and you still need to convert. So, this might be another reason for you to try sub ohm.
It’s even possible to smoke the HCL version of any chemical by applying direct heat (i.e., no liquid carrier involved) the same way you would the freebase version but it’s been reported that the results are poor.
1) Mod. I guess any mod will do but if you don’t already have one, go with Geekvape Aegis Solo 100W TC. There are two versions of Solo: V2 and the original V1. Minty argues that V1 is of higher quality than V2 (“temperature control issues”) but only some stores still stock V1 and you will need to be able to tell V2 and V1 apart to get the original. However, there's nothing wrong with V2 either if you aren't too picky. I’ve got version 1 and I’m happy with it. An example of Version 1 can be found here.
2) Battery. The Solo mod uses a 18650 battery. Brand of battery doesn't matter (for intents and purposes of this guide) as long as the size is right (any vape shop will carry these). The available sizes for different mods are: 18650, 20700, 21700
3) Tank. I’ve got Geekvape Z Sub Ohm (Zeus) Tank. I had Cerberus tank and it would leak as it had the “hatch” (airflow control) at the bottom as opposed to at the top like Zeus tank does. So learn from my mistakes.
4) Coils. I’ve got Geekvape Z Series Coils (Pack of 5). Make sure the coils are for Zeus tank (as per the Minty's guide). Coils also come in sizes. Minty recommends (listed in the order of preference) Z0.15, followed by Z0.15XM and, lastly, Z0.2 coils. I’ve got Z0.2 and I’m happy with them. The tank will come with one coil installed inside it. Mostly probably it’s Z0.2. So, these are spares.
5) Vegetable Glycerin (VG). It’s a thickener, i.e., prevents leaking, and it also prevents dry hits. A dry hit is an unpleasant experience in which, when you take a hit from your vaping device, you are left with a bad taste in your mouth and a vapourless hit. This is often the result of there not being enough e-liquid on the wick (in this guide, our wick being coil), which leads to a dry, cotton-like taste in your mouth after inhaling.
6) Propylene Glycol (PG). As per Girzo, Vegetable Glycerin (VG) is responsible for clouding. You don't want big clouds. You want as little smoke as possible. Ideally, you would want propylene glycol (PG) only, but it's impossible. The mix would be too runny and seep in between the gaps of the device. But if you like lots of smoke feel free to use the 50/50 mix. Usually, your choice is between 70/30 and 80/20. You will need to see for yourself if 20% or 30% VG makes more sense to you (or if you can even feel a difference)
7) Drip Tip for the tank. Size 810 for the Zeus tank. Don’t get size 510 by accident. I've got one of these in 810:
8) Syringe. A small syringe preferably (e.g., 1ml, 5ml, 10ml, etc.) with a needle if possible. From your pharmacy or off the internet. They are optional but useful. So, the tank has a narrow hole (“fill port”) through which you will need to deliver your liquid ejuice. As you would imagine, a needle is very narrow. The syringe could also help you measure out 3 ml of PG and 1 ml of VG if you decide to go 75PG/25VG (see below).
Mixing:
Mixing 5-meo-dmt (or maybe 5-meo-malt) ejuice for sub ohm:
1) PG/VG mix ratio: Minty mentions 80PG/20VG and I use that too
So, if you decided to mix 4ml of carrier, then 80% PG means 3.2ml of PG and 20% VG means 0.8ml of VG.
2) Substance to carrier ratio: I go 1:4, meaning 1 gram of 5-meo to 4 ml of PG/VG mix. An important side note here is that Minty mentions the ratio for n,n-dmt. But 5-meo packs more punch than n,n-dmt per mg. 1:4 works for me but if you find that the vaping experience is too intense, then you can dilute the liquid vehicle with more PG/VG mix.
3) Mod wattage: Minty mentions 30W-35W. I set 33W
4) Toke length (holding the substance smoke in your lungs): Minty mentions 6-10 seconds. I would start by holding in the smoke for brief 5 seconds to understand if you didn't take too much.
For example, 1 gram of malt, 3 ml of PG, 1 ml of VG will give you 75/25 1:4.
When loading liquid remember to be quick (as Girzo and Minty conveniently pointed out). Otherwise, the liquid will seep through the bottom and you will need to collect it with a syringe and repeat the procedure. This one won't be obvious before you see it for yourself. Basically, at some point your will need to take off the top of your tank and load the liquid carrier (with your syringe, probably). Then you will need to replace the top quickly as to avoid the problem described above.
P.S. Word on the street is that 5-meo-malt from Canada 🇨🇦 is higher quality than the Dutch 🇳🇱 malt. I believe that too. So, if you’re buying malt, get it from Canada.
P.P.S. There’s an alternative of getting a vape pen and then loading your eliquid into a cartridge. People swear by it but I’ve never tried it. So do your own research if that’s the road you want to take.
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Making a spray guide
The 5-MeO-DMT Mega-ThreadHi fellas
So I discovered that my post about volumetric dosing using nasal spray has broken pictures (the one directly above). Since I can't edit the original post because I guess it has been too long since I created it, I decided to repost it here with pictures working. Also, this thread needs a bump.
Some time ago Gerhard Fourie recorded a video about volumetric dosing using a nasal spray. I can't seem to find this video any longer. I assume Youtube has deleted it.
I created a nasal solution following the steps as laid out by Gerhard. I like it more than snorting because the experience feels much more potent with the spray given the same amount of chemical. The results are much more consistent as well. With snorting you get clumps of material not dissolving, putting your straw not deep enough into your nostril, etc. Maybe you can master the sniffing technique. I didn't. So I'm seeing snorting as a good way to start so that you can acclimate yourself to the chemical but ultimately you'll need to give it up for something better. When I plugged either 5-Meo-Malt or 5-Meo-Dmt, I'd always get a ego backlash. I can't say why that is. Maybe it's because plugging is more potent than nasal. Maybe it's because I needed to clear out some negative energy. If you don't know what "ego backlash" is, watch the corresponding video on Leo's Youtube channel. But if you have ever had drug comedowns, that's basically what it means. Anyways, I'm revisiting plugging later. I only have had positive experiences with the nasal spray. Burning has never been an issue for me, even with sniffing, but spray can help with that problem too. I also haven't had an issue with feeling sick when using spray on a full stomach. But then I've only plugged on an empty stomach. So I don't know if I get that particular problem in the first place.
I created a step-by-step guide replicating the Gerhard's deleted video on Youtube and shared it with some on these forums. Posting it again for manuel bon's benefit.
First you need to determine how much solution each spray delivers in one spray. Maybe you can figure this out by reading the description on the spray bottle, but I couldn’t, even after having spent some time at my local pharmacy looking at different brands. Here’s a simple trick Gerhard mentioned:
1) Weigh your solution first.
2) Spray the nasal spray 5 times.
3) Weigh it again.
4) Subtract the difference and divide it by 5.
(40.721 - 39.976) / 5 = 0.150ml
So I get 0.150ml per spray for my nasal spray.
Next, take the nozzle off the bottle using a Philips screwdriver
So a little bit of maths. I know my bottle will fit 10ml of water. 10ml / 0.15ml per spray = 67 sprays. I know that a red 10mg scoop fits around 7mgs of 5-meo-dmt and I want one spray to deliver one 10mg red scoop. So 7mgs * 67 sprays = 467mgs of 5-meo-dmt
I put a rollie paper under the chemical to make the job of delivering the powder into the nasal spray bottle easier. Roll the paper into a tube and upend it into the bottle. Or alternatively use the plastic tray may have been supplied with the scales.
Now measure 10ml of water
And off you go blasting into the infinite
I vape these days and plugging is probably superior anyway, but it's always best to try all the options and understand what works best for you. Like, Gerhard said that he uses his nasal spray while out on public for microdosing (concerts and such). I remember Girzo mentioning he goes around puffing n,n-dmt smoke from his vape. I used the spray while hiking, keeping the dose low enough to still be able to walk. The hike was very colourful and amazing. I think this could be a good solution for someone for tried plugging but feels the experience was too intense.
P.S. You can try the following way of activating different "chakras": you plug, spray and vape all in one session. An entirely unexpected angle of attack.
P.P.S. I've found that children nasal sprays will nebulise less chemical than regular sprays (first suggested to me by Shree). So we are talking around of 0.070ml of chemical. I'd go with these smaller sprays.
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Injecting one marijuana
SubQ ROA - anyone tried?Here's the guide that originally got me started creating sterile vials of psychedelics. It was posted by the site admin of the 5 Hive forum.
This is not an encouragement for anyone here to actually pursue the ROA, but if you truly feel called to it, this is basically how it's done. Just posting for the sake of shared knowledge. It's up to you to apply wisdom in your choices.
NOTE: Obviously the ROA mentioned here is intramuscular injection, but you can substitute it for subcutaneous injection. Either one works.
So You Want To Intramuscularly Administer 5-MeO-DMT HCl (or other salt)
by HumbleVoyager
Disclaimer: This information does not condone the activity it describes. Anything attempted is at one's own risk and knowledge that there are serious consequences if anything goes wrong in this process. Risks include, but are not limited to, infection, abscess, psychosis and injuries. This information is provided to help prevent problems that might arise if someone attempted this without appropriate information. Please PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Materials Required:
-1 vial of bacteriostatic water containing .9% benzyl alcohol - 30ml is a good standard size.
-Sterile 10ml syringes with luer lock attachment.
-Any number of single-use, brand-new insulin syringes. I suggest using 1cc (1 ml) 27 to 31 gauge (31 gauge is nice and EasyComfort brand is ideal), 1/2 inch needles. 1 inch needles if you have a lot of fat in your thigh.
-Empty sterile vial with rubber membrane on top (10ml)
-.22μm (.22 micrometer) Micron filters.
-25 gauge, 1.5 inch hypodermic needles (Note that this is just needles, not with a syringe. These attach to the 10ml syringe.)
-Cotton balls or alcohol wipes
-Rubbing alcohol (isopropyl alcohol)
-Milligram scale (capable of weighing to .001g)
-Parchment paper
1. Acquire 5-MeO-DMT in a salted form (5-MeO-DMT HCl, 5-MeO-DMT Fumarate, 5-MeO-DMT Oxalate, etc.).
2. Make a calculation as to how you'd like to dose. I'd say that 10mg/ml is a good concentration. That way if you wanted to dose 5mg, you'd draw up .5cc's in your syringe. When you do an intramuscular injection, you really want as little fluid in there as possible.
3. Boil some water and pour the water into a bowl that has your bacteriostatic water vial in it. Allow the bacteriostatic water jar get hot. A hotter solvent dissolves the compound more quickly and efficiently.
4. While your bacteriostatic water is heating up, weigh out your 5-MeO-DMT. For a 10ml vial, you will need exactly 100mg of 5-MeO-DMT. It is best to weigh this on a square of parchment paper so that you can use the paper to move the powder.
5. Get one of your 10ml syringes, affix a needle onto the end, and remove the plunger. Into the barrel of the syringe, place the total amount of 5-MeO-DMT HCl (in this case you would be putting 100mg 5-MeO-DMT HCl). Then put the plunger back into the syringe, but don't push it down yet. Keep it at the top of the barrel.
6. Get your vial of warm bacteriostatic water. Insert the needle into the vial and turn the vial upside down so the needle is pointing up and push the plunger all the way up to the 5-MeO-DMT powder so that the vial gets filled with air. This will keep a vacuum from forming when removing the bacteriostatic water. Be careful to not go so far as to push any of the 5-MeO-DMT into the vial (this shouldn't be a problem, since you are moving directly to step 5).
5. Begin pulling the syringe back (it should actually be moving back on its own accord because you have created positive pressure in the bac water vial) and draw up 10ml or 10cc's of saline solution into the syringe. Make sure it fills up completely. Once you have 10ml of water in your syringe, remove the needle from the vial but draw up an extra 1cc of air into your vial.
6. Shake/rotate that syringe until the 5-MeO-DMT HCl has completely dissolved. It should just look like clear water when it is completely dissolved.
7. Hold the syringe with the needle facing up. Cap and remove the needle. Set it aside.
8. Screw on the micron filter and then screw on the needle to the output port of the filter.
9. Insert an extra needle into the side of the rubber top of the sterile vial without a syringe. This is to let air come out when you are adding the 5-MeO-DMT solution.
10. Insert the needle that is attached to the micron filter and syringe into your sterile, empty vial and depress the plunger. This will be a bit difficult to do and will require some strength. Be patient and let it go at its own pace.
11. Now your vial is a sterile, filtered solution ready for injections. Label the vial with the substance it contains AND THE CONCENTRATION. For example, this vial would read: 5-MeO-DMT HCl - 10mg/ml
12. Note: ALWAYS use a NEW NEEDLE. NEVER REUSE NEEDLES. You don't want to contaminate the sterile environment in that vial.
13. Now it's time to dose yourself. First, set up a clean, safe environment. Sterilize any surfaces you will be keeping your vial, syringes, and alcohol wipes. I have used a brand new cookie sheet for this purpose and have rubbed the whole thing down with rubbing alcohol to kill any bacteria. Set up any playlist you'd like for the experience at this point.
14. Wash your hands THOROUGHLY. You don't want any bacteria getting anywhere near the inside of your muscle.
15. This is best done with shorts of some kind or naked, because you will need access to your thigh. You can also inject into your deltoid muscle but that can be more painful and is hard to do on yourself. I will just talk about injecting into the thigh.
16. Take a good look at your thigh. You will want to divide it into four equal quadrants. Your injection should happen in the bottom-right quadrant for your right thigh or the bottom-left quadrant for your left thigh. If necessary, draw the quadrant lines.
17. Once you have determined where your injection site will be, sterilize the thigh by rubbing it in an outward spiral motion with your alcohol wipe, from the injection site outward. Take your time and make sure you don't miss a spot.
18. Let the rubbing alcohol dry.
19. Draw up your dose from your vial. Remember to double-check your dose as you do this to make sure you have the correct amount.
20. Hold the syringe in one hand like a dart. With your free hand, spread the skin on your thigh apart so it's tight. This will eliminate or at least significantly minimize any pain when you insert the needle.
21. Insert the needle at a 90 degree angle to your skin. You want to do this in one continuous motion, it doesn't have to be fast. Once it's in, I would suggest not letting the syringe move around so much. You can let go of the skin that is stretched now that the needle is in place and use it to steady the syringe.
22. Pull back on the plunger slightly to make sure you haven't hit any veins or arteries.
23. If there is NO blood registering in the barrel, you are good to go. Inject slowly and steadily. If you feel any pain or severe stinging, slow down your rate of injection. Breathe deeply as you do this. Sometimes people hold their breath.
24. Once you are done injecting, cap your needle and put it on your tray or somewhere that it won't be stepped on or otherwise messed with.
25. Lay down and dream with Love.