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I've heard much and am experientially (though placebo self-bias might limit me here) inclined to think that LSD has the longest tolerance, with 2 weeks+, while 4-HO tryptamines seem to be closer to 5-10 days of tolerance, relatively speaking, sometimes less, not sure about 5-mipt. DMT and 5-Meo/Malt are reported to have really short tolerance, likely due to their [short duration]? Though I wonder if that's also the case with Ayahuasca and how its tolerance compares. @Asia P Anyway, if it's non-lsd psychedelics and you have a window open, a week is enough and 10+ is plenty to recover, unless you need to psychologically integrate the experience, but you'd know if that was the case

@Breakingthewall @James123 I did notice a while ago that it's easier to understand without thinking: like it's literally more taxing to be confused than to get it, humorously enough, though it is anti-climactic to the *non-existent (apparently anyway)* ego.

It's not a competition, it's a mystery novel where the author forgot the plot. Now we're a reality TV show with zero prize money and we're all juggling egos. Tomorrow, it'll be a scavenger hunt for common sense and every day a quiz show where the answers keep changing. Sorry, I'm turning into Yimpa, I'll stop, I promise

@OBEler What about lucid dreaming?

@Breakingthewall I experienced this on my last trip. I went from mesocosm to microcosm to macrocosm, it's like I saw the same world of details in a particle of sand, as my room, as the picture of a galaxy, and they all interact and reflect each other on all levels infinitely, looking at any one thing, you can see the reflection of any other thing, no matter how far, complex, or simple, it's all entangled, and you can encode details with soundwaves and read it off water if your mind/third eye is sharp enough and the associatory network we are and the houses and all the stuff they include are so insanely complex, it's really amazing.

@Camerong Only question being, how fast shall we do it? If we had a big red button that would instantly fulfill all desires, should we press it or continue at our pace? If we pressed that button, would we become nothingness/infinity/God without anything to do, since technically curiosity is also a desire, albeit a higher one to explore, and so would we not just start over from a lower level? Or do the levels continue up for infinity? Or is it infinitely down and up and sideways and there's not even a preference of direction, but merely of where we feel like going and evolving and navigating towards, granted our specific path and feelings that guide us?

The immediate spiritual answer to would be that we have a certain amount of time on this earth and bodily karma to put into motion like making families and cooperating, but then that is phased out as we slowly prepare to die and transition into the next reincarnation or plane of reality in "cosmic evolution" essentially. Are lives do imply endings (give our body back to the earth and reset all injuries, leave stuff for the next generation) and that's part of collective evolution. Now you say that personal evolution ends and if this life is all there is, then that appears correct, though with the right practices, health can be maintained for a long time even in old age and even as interests shift. Still I do agree with you, but then only if this life was our only existence, which I have much reasons to believe is not the case, and also believing it is, is equally biased, so I go for the most expansive and vitalizing interpretation.

@Schizophonia Was made to eat my words, had a nightmare yesterday. Now I wanna repeat it and show it who's boss!

@Breakingthewall There is no problem with an end. Though on an absolute scale such a thing does not even exist as an "objective" phenomenon or absolute limitation, as it's nothing but an arbitrary paradigm context encapsulating a focal perspectival understanding projected into perception, a narrow lens to interpret infinity. In simpler words: It's a subset, an interpretation like a yellow 3d shape being seen as a rubber duck, but anyone can interpret it into anything, infinity is infinite in all ways, how could there be an end when you can always +1, or + ∞ or * ∞ or ^⁰⁰. To close one door is to open another, to reach 0 is to inflect into infinity.

Life is. Purpose is. Life is Purpose. Life is Purposeless. Purpose is alive. Purpose is lifeless. Purpose isn't Life. Life isn't Purpose. Link these two however you like and it will be a local association grid that collapses the superposition of boundless Infinity.

Leo and many of us are grounded by our LP, while others awaken so much, they reach Madasamadhi and just:

My four stages of learning evolution: 1. Learn from books, articles, schools 2. Learn from youtube videos, forum posts 3. Learn from art, schematics, illustrations, animations 4. Learn from memes, the DNA of the soul

@Yimpa Enjoy your well deserved vacation!

@Salvijus The way I interpreted your repeated ending was as a closing of a strange loop, inflecting and closing the cycle. The authority reply was pretty profound, you'd have to become the things you seek to influence through transcendence. What is a "Thief" anyway? We make up rules, set boundaries, create individual and collective social systems with property and so forth. A thief might be a thief without knowing they're a thief, might not have a related philosophy at all, it might just be a projected label upon them. In a deeper sense however, the concept of thieves existed basically forever and is easy to grasp, much has been said and some cases are more obvious and mutually agreed upon than others. To take from others, yet we take/lend food of the earth, we kill animals and steal their life and flesh when we have an abundance of resources. We steal each others energies through gossip, envy, malicious behavior, ego and steal our own energy as well. Time is being stolen by advertisements and institutions at all scales. People steal from the planet without caring to give anything back. Focusing on petty thieves really does a disservice to the scale and potential of the argument. Nice one! How about an unknown known? Like you forgot what you wanted to say but know you knew what it was. What is one's nature? How come it doesn't change? Isn't that limiting? I thought infinity had no limits. It's kinda good that they do though instead of hiding it away in an eco chamber. Confrontation allows progress. And so they use whoever is highly conscious as a mirror but it's a smart non-dual mirror, that will boggle their minds. It's fascinating how far this concept stretches and how vital it is realized to be when awakened to.

We learned that whole finite thing from Leo, but is it really finite or infinity in form? Form, we, the universe, all change. In a way, how can you even align yourself with the type of infinite you're pointing to? Everything that is, is finite, no? There are Mystics, Shamans, DMT-Psychonauts, NDEs reporting first hand experiences of the cosmic evolution of life. Ideas of cosmic evolution, astral bodies, higher dimensions and that Earth is a self chosen life that veils larger awareness. Both of you speak of alignment, be it of cosmic evolution, or the infinite and eternal. I really don't see the contradiction.

@Davino If you really wanna nuke our consciousness, go for: Leo + Sadhguru 🌌

Yup, love the images, animations and intuitive communication + paradigm and paradox contextualization. Penrose triangles break our version of 3D-Space but create their own where vertical and horizontal intersect, And so consistency is a matter of rules and paradigms on multiple layers of reality and paradoxes are doors out.

The things we long for, avoid or sprint towards, whatever generates strong reactions and desires. Things we love or hate with a passion, that which we're biased towards. It's experiences we find profound, that shape our character or people we appreciate or things we look forward to. The more we have of those, the more attached we are to this life. And so we'll keep returning and feel uneasy about leaving. It's like: imagine someone invited you to live in the woods with no contact to anyone for 5 years straight spontaneously and you knew you wouldn't have to worry about safety but simply missing everything and everyone you know and everything you're engaged in or want to experience or cross off your bucket list. These life things keep us grounded in this realm and swing us back to homeostasis after psychedelic trips.

1. Let me get this straight, you had delusional solipsistic ideas after 5-Meo, so you solved that with 5-Meo and now your delusional solipsistic ideas are absolutely undelusional because the God with absolute authority that you are says so. 2. And so you want to tell your mental constructs that don't exist this because they don't exist and you make them up to tell them they don't exist because you're bored? 3. And they don't have an experience because you're not aware of their experience despite being them, because all you see is words? I guess people around you just disappear when you look away, that's cool! 4. I'm a profile picture now, how is this not the coolest? You must be very creative to give us those! 5. For entertainment purposes, refer to @Yimpa, our trickster Zen-Master of humor, 6. "I’m here to have a discussion with someone because there is no one to have an argument with" Who doesn't love paradoxes?

3D is soo yesterday, you mean a 4D hyperspace of infinite psychic superpositional associatory relational experiences! Bold of you to assume what we are and aren't attracted to! Be it pineapples or pinecones, creativity knows no bounds Aren't we all? Oh wait, I'm projecting! But wait, it's a spectrum, oh no, just admit it, Princess, you're autistic too In that case, I'll have to add gender bending to my psychic studies, maybe Leo can make a course on that or add it to the subconscious reprogramming course lol. So then we can throw a real actualized.orgy in full lesbo glory All you have to do is to surrender your dicks to spirituality, but we're all used to letting go at this point, right? Leo always keeps telling us that only few who are serious about this work will make it after all! So stop attracting women like betas and become the sigma woman you seek instead and then let's dance it out!

@Schizophonia I kinda miss insanity, for all its horrors, troubles and time loops, it was pretty fun and fascinating. But nahhh, I'm slowing down on epigenetic self-evolution and'll approach it from the mind side for a little while. Back a week ago, my humor expression and detection levels were at 2000000% but too whimsical and meta to make sense. Now I'll have to reintegrate that

Include and transcend each duality and its source, then all sources of all dualities + their root (cause and effect) simultaneously I am all including the separate myself feeling, incl. all that sees itself separate and doesn't, is and isn't in all superpositions I like what I like until I don't and that has tons of reasons including survival and aesthetic and associations and everything else There is much to be explored on this realm, until there isn't. It's kinda strange, like a moving goalpost, and yet lifespans are fixed, until the technological singularity changes that, unless it doesn't and then who knows how flowing out of this life feels like for sure beyond any doubt of "hallucinatory death" I'll just outsource that problem to my wittier future self!

@Sugarcoat Hmm, I might have had moments, but it'd be hard to recall at this point. I remember staring at the horizon and seeing the imaginary line lose significance between ground and sky, resolving duality. I also remember sitting in my room, feeling to be the volumetric air and objects, almost merging with the ground. On one powerful trip, I became a mirror light reflection and there was no space for context or anything else, I also remember looking at objects and their front side having become all that I perceived to exist. I also remember space stretching and one of Leo's video about merging with objects (the classic become the coffee table example). But the specific 2D flattening you're mentioning is not something I remember really experiencing in detail, or maybe I would have described it differently, but I can't really recall such an experience. It's quite interesting, I wonder how the other forum members compare.