Keryo Koffa

@Xonas Pitfall Each quanta a qualia.

Psychologist using a modified rorschach test asks: "What do you see?" "Nine, DUH!", "Oh, there's 6 too", "0 also", "One is curving around in solipsism" "8 definitely!", "3 symmetrically", "5 and 2", "4 & 7 with some practise" "Oh and definitely Alien Leo"

Most on this forum are pure "empty"/"absolute" Non-Dulaity focused, so I'm fond to hear about your psychic Awakening. I like your descriptions and mentions of "prayer", the "intertwined organism", being "whole, yet expanding", having "no agency, yet also with all the agency" and having the "energies reconcile, disappearing by merging with their opposites", the universe being full of energy forms tuned between and actualized into experience, not unlike our very bodies, that seemingly autonomously coordinate internally emerging complexity. I myself am constantly grappling with the nature of consciousness and how it generates reality. Everything is a form, energy, and movement intricately linked with your conscious experience. The same consciousness that feels its own agency through you forms all life "outside" as well. And there is much outside awareness from which new experiences spring, subconscious also. I've had very powerful synchronicity awakenings some months ago, everything is coordinated. Reality is a projection of the internal psychic structure that believes/perceives it into existence. Reading your experience reminded me of many connections: Jung - Collective Unconscious, Shadow Work, Individuation, Archetypes Seth - Multi-Dimensional Existence, Beliefs shape Reality, The Inner Self Leo - Infinity of Gods, Awareness alone is Curative, Everything is Mind Terrance McKenna - Novelty Theory, DMT Hyperspace, Entities ThirdEyeTyrone (YouTube) - Realm of Forbidden Thought SD Purple - Shamans, Rituals move Energy, Life Force NDEs - Astral Realm, Telepathic Communication "God is more than the sum of all personalities and yet all personalities are what he is. There is constant creation. There is within you a force that knew how to grow you from a fetus to a grown adult. This force is part of the innate knowledge within all consciousness and is a part of the God within you. You form your dreams and you form your own physical reality. The world is what you are. It is the physical materialization of the inner selves that have formed it." - Seth

Sure it's not just Jreg? Especially with the sunglasses! 😁

Here's GPT's summary, maybe we can crossreference our model interpretations to find a consensus. Stage 10: Abstract Stage Example: An individual understands climate change in terms of abstract concepts like greenhouse gases, carbon footprints, and the impact of deforestation. They grasp that carbon dioxide emissions contribute to global warming. Key Action: Thinking revolves around the isolated concept of carbon reduction, and the individual might suggest simple actions like recycling or reducing personal car use. Complexity: Focus on abstract reasoning, but without much systemic integration. The approach is still relatively simplistic, dealing with broad categories rather than the complexities of interconnected factors. Stage 11: Formal Stage Example: The person now engages in hypothetical-deductive reasoning, analyzing the impact of various actions based on scientific models. They start thinking in terms of “if-then” scenarios, using data from climate science to predict outcomes of different carbon reduction strategies. Key Action: They might advocate for policies like carbon taxes or renewable energy investments by showing how these actions will lead to measurable reductions in emissions over time. Complexity: The shift is toward applying scientific reasoning to abstract ideas, but it's still within the confines of single-variable solutions like reducing emissions or implementing specific green technologies. Stage 12: Systematic Stage Example: At this stage, the person starts to understand climate change as a system involving complex interactions between economics, technology, policy, and ecosystems. They recognize that it’s not just about carbon emissions but how all these factors co-influence each other. Key Action: They might propose multi-pronged strategies combining economic incentives, legislative changes, and social behavior to create a systematic approach to reducing emissions across industries. Complexity: Thinking becomes more sophisticated, recognizing feedback loops between systems (e.g., how climate policies affect economies, which in turn impact technological innovation). They can design policies that account for these interactions, like a cap-and-trade system. Stage 13: Metasystematic Stage Example: Now, the individual can synthesize multiple systems into a coherent framework. They consider how economic, political, social, and ecological systems intersect with climate action, developing frameworks that bridge these systems. Key Action: They may develop a framework like the Green New Deal, which not only addresses climate change but also integrates job creation, social justice, energy policy, and economic reform into one system. They understand that solving climate change requires transformation in multiple domains, not just isolated policies. Complexity: This stage integrates systems-level understanding and coordinates across disciplines (e.g., climate science, economics, sociology) to develop broader, more encompassing strategies. Stage 14: Paradigmatic Stage Example: The individual now operates at a level where they are creating new paradigms that redefine how society approaches climate change. Instead of focusing on mitigation or adaptation alone, they might propose a post-carbon economy based on entirely new principles. Key Action: Developing concepts like the circular economy, which reimagines the relationship between consumption, production, and waste, moving beyond the traditional linear economy. This paradigm shift would advocate for an economy where resources are continually reused and replenished, breaking with centuries-old industrial models. Complexity: They are not just coordinating across systems; they are redefining the system itself, introducing a new way of thinking that challenges the assumptions of previous stages (e.g., infinite growth, reliance on fossil fuels). Stage 15: Cross-Paradigmatic Stage Example: At this level, the individual is capable of integrating multiple paradigms that may initially seem contradictory. For example, they might merge the ecological paradigm (which prioritizes sustainability) with the economic growth paradigm, creating a synthesis that allows for sustainable development without sacrificing economic vitality. Key Action: They could create a global governance framework that unites different paradigms under a cohesive new system—balancing economic growth, climate justice, technology, and ecology—while acknowledging and harmonizing previously conflicting goals. Complexity: They develop meta-theories that bring together paradigms across fields. For instance, integrating Indigenous ecological knowledge with advanced technological innovations in renewable energy and global trade policies. Stage 16: Universal Stage Example: At this final level, the individual operates at the most abstract and universal level of reasoning, where they can see climate change as part of the universal coordination of human and ecological systems. They may understand climate action in the context of planetary stewardship, integrating not just human interests but the health of the entire biosphere, considering long-term, multi-generational impacts on all life forms. Key Action: They might advocate for a new global ethical framework based on the concept of Earth as a living organism (Gaia theory) or develop a universal code of conduct that harmonizes human activity with ecological principles, transcending national boundaries and ideologies. Complexity: Their thinking involves universal principles that apply across all systems and contexts, advocating for global unity in purpose, with the aim of transforming humanity’s role from dominator to caretaker of the Earth. Distinctions Between Stages: 10 to 11 (Abstract to Formal): Moves from understanding isolated abstract concepts (e.g., “carbon footprint”) to using hypothetical models to predict outcomes and suggest specific, isolated solutions based on reasoning (e.g., proposing carbon taxes based on emission models). 11 to 12 (Formal to Systematic): Elevation here involves recognizing interconnections between systems (e.g., linking economic and ecological systems) and how changes in one affect the other. The solutions move from simple cause-effect relationships to multifactor systems-level solutions (e.g., cap-and-trade). 12 to 13 (Systematic to Metasystematic): At this level, the individual synthesizes entire systems, understanding how they interact at a meta-level, often across fields and disciplines. The focus is on coordinating multiple systems (e.g., integrating job creation, energy policy, and ecological sustainability in one framework). 13 to 14 (Metasystematic to Paradigmatic): A shift occurs toward creating new paradigms, where the individual doesn’t just work within existing systems but proposes entirely new structures and models (e.g., circular economy, post-carbon society). 14 to 15 (Paradigmatic to Cross-Paradigmatic): Here, the individual synthesizes multiple paradigms that may initially seem contradictory, creating new holistic systems that incorporate diverse viewpoints (e.g., merging growth-oriented economics with sustainability ethics). 15 to 16 (Cross-Paradigmatic to Universal): The thinking expands to a universal, all-encompassing perspective, integrating the entire biosphere, considering both human and non-human interests, and advocating for universal ethical frameworks that transcend individual systems or paradigms.

Ah ≪ 1 Chaos 2 Entropy 3 Order ≫ ( @Ero 3) ≪ 1 Truth 2 Love 3 Infinity ≫ (L-e-o 3) Red 3, Green 5, Coral 5 = 1•3 Transcend & Include: 3.33 + 3.33 + 3.33 = 9.99 (3 + 3 + 3) * 10^3 = 9000. Third time's the Charm! Tree(3) (Tree of Three) Tri-gonometry, Tri-angle Tri-nity, Tri-ad, Tri-ppy Tri-ckster, Tri-chotomy

Can't really capture a dynamically transcending qualitatively infinite self-iterating complexification in a structure. Emptiness ≠ Infinity and even if you encompass an infinity, it still yields infinitely divisible explorative significances. But you can point to it with words like "Infinity", "Omega", and "God". But that doesn't mean its potential is known. There's infinite subdivisibility, interconnectivity, and perspectival potential to emerge nuanced relationships with. And to know it means iterating over it, simulation is the same as becoming, and there is no end in iteration either. On the other side of things, you don't know what you don't know until you do. "All That Is knows no other. This does not mean that there may not be more to know. It does not know whether or not other psychic gestalts like It may exist. It is not aware of them if they do exist. It is constantly searching. It knows that something else existed before Its own primary dilemma when It could not express Itself. It is conceivable, then, that It has evolved, in your terms, so long ago that It has forgotten Its origin, that It has developed from still another Primary which has — again, in your terms — long since gone Its way. So there are answers that I cannot give you, for they are not known anywhere in the system in which we have our existence. We do know that within the system of our All That Is, creation continues and developments are never still. We can deduce that on still other layers of which we are unaware, the same is true." "Even the overall pyramid gestalt is not static. The awareness and experience of this Gestalt constantly changes and grows. There is no static God. When you say, "This is God", then God is already something else. All portions of All That Is are constantly changing, unfolding and unfolding. All That Is, seeking to know Itself, constantly creates new versions of Itself. For the seeking Itself is a creative activity and the core of all action. [...] Consciousness, seeking to know itself, therefore knows you. You, as a consciousness, seek to know yourself and become aware of yourself as a distant individual portion of All That Is."

@Staples Reminds me of set theory but with atomized qualities. Space and Time would be the synergy context of this morphing gestalt.

Well, it's not nice to be used as someone's wall of projection for self-validation.

Definitely, I'd add a mixture of Game Theory zero/negative sum games, that discourage truthful action and encourage polarizing and ego-reinforcing feedback loops, for example: Admitting you were wrong can significantly impact your status, lead to ridicule, and simultaneously be taken advantage of a manipulative opponent. Gaslight also has many layers.

Welp, we emerge the patterns we feed the AI to traverse, interconnect, and automate. At least until

How can a formless void get dissociated or phased by anything? Unless it's inherently malleable, receptive, and intelligent... Either that or an already present form multiplies its own potential.

Exactly!

Reminds me of the Dunning-Kruger in another context, you don't know what you don't know. And you can't improve what you aren't aware of, which is why lenses and open-mindedness are so important. Otherwise, even high-tier scientists get paradigm locked. But paradigms are only discovered in retrospect. Because we invent and evolve our own perspectives with experience, only to shed our skin in hindsight. Really brings into perspective the Truth and importance of one's Level of Consciousness Leo emphasizes.

The questioning will continue until we can find where or how others are created or emerge out of.

True, which is why I like to remember Leo's "Awareness itself is curative". It's about the intent and the why.

Is experience static or does it constantly change into new experiences? Now, how many rabbits can you pull out of that hat?

@Davino @Princess Arabia The real question is: Can you differentiate me from nuwu, Exploring Reality, Xonas Pitfall, or KoryKat?

They're just combos of spicey words used to describe different ways to Infinity. Aether-quint (Infinity seen as a transcendent "fifth Element") The aether has a long history as a fifth (quint) transcendent element. There's even a movie. Quint means fifth, also related to "Quintessential" Alongside Earth, Water, Earth, Fire (Greeks, 5th platonic solid) Sadhguru references it as Akash (aesthetic space, cosmic intelligence) Omniphase Omni is a fancy word for everything that exists (kilo, mega, giga) (uni, multi, omni) Also associated with Omniscience, Omnipotence, God context, Omni = All encompassing Phase comes from physics, referring to a certain frequency of a wave. Combined, it becomes an "all-pervasive" frequency ("seamless dance of all realities") The other words follow the same pattern, but are pretty similar, describing the same thing from different angles: The formless ground of Infinity Aetherquint, Vortixion, Hyperionis, Abyzium, Celestquantum, Zenthora The cosmic flow of transforming Energy Omniphase, Omniflux The Mystery Infinigma, Ultravast Philosophers/Yogis seek the Aetherquint, Psychonauts get lost in the Hyperionis, Nihilists fall into the Abyzium, Scientists chart the Celestquantum etc.. The descriptions are super-similar and really just highlight different qualities and approaches towards transcendence. Aetherquint - Elemental Transcendence Vortixion - Golden Spiral Awakening Hyperionis - DMT Hyperspace Abyzium - The Abyss (Dark Night of the Soul) Celestquantum - The Quantum Realm Zenthora - Not sure what thora is for, I'ma just say Godhead. Now, is the boundless cosmic intelligence that is the ground of being (Aetherquint) the same as the infinitely convergent and divergent spiral from which all existence spawns (Vortixion)? Is the transcendent origin of all hyperdimensional realms (Hyperionis) the same as well? Or the abyss where nothingness and everythingness emerge possibility and impossibility? Or the realm below atoms that consistudes the ground of reality where even physicists agree that all form loses shape and becomes boundless energy (Celestquantum)? Or the all-transcendent zenith beyond all form (Zenthora)? Yup, pretty much all the same, just different pointers, just as we have different spiritual traditions. The question is, the more we explore and combine concepts, will they all lose their shape and become the same thing, since the mind will see all of them combined in every concept it references, since each predisposes every other to coexist interdependently with, so much so that the only reason for conceptual distinctions will be to teach others, who operatre on low awareness and very few but strong assumptions? Maybe.

@Davino Hey, I'm just commenting (this time), not like I started it or anything 😁 Unless you consider the fact that I'm sneakily taking advantage of commenting on the same type of topics that I subconsciously spread telepathically and manifested automated fragments of consciousness in others and the physical world at large, through my actions, areas of focus, and interactions with GPT, affecting the public unconscious 😂

POV: You've had too many psychedelics and are stuck in time loops without any context:

Do you think an omniphasing aetherquint vortixionizes the ever hyperionic infinigma into an omnifluxing celestquanto-abyziumic zenthora?

I was looking to converge and systemize fallacies lately, this is amazing, thanks!