Keryo Koffa

@Davino Transcend and include, it's both expansion, omnidirectional, the path for you to decide 😁

@Ishanga But have you considered the alternative interpretation: That we are the living experience of the intelligence's mechanism Structuring on our level of holarchy, the meaning of limitedness? God infinitizes, each drop contains the ocean implicitly and multiplies in magnitudes of exploration.

Yes, it's like a scaffolding building on the example of an implicit super-tautology CTMU-style. The slightest, sure. A fair one, eh... more like infinitesimal, hehe I hope I'm yummy! I do agree with you on another level. Structure even when defined to be True by God is still limitation. And God is the origin that transcends all dual simultaneous superpositions in meta-infinite potentiality.

I wonder what our martial arts expert @Ishanga has to say

You don't know what you don't know. It's fundamentally missing awareness in and of itself. I too wondered about it, it's a fundamental part of us, and without it you wouldn't be you... Same here, sis. People are wild. You gotta learn to savor that freedom finding what you like. But I wanted to find out what all the fuss was about, so I spedrun virginity at 15: It's overrated Don't you "Eheh" me, mister! Just admit you're not up to the challenge, my dear! Yeah, it's like: You come to earth for the experience and then you just end up doing nothing...

It's an interactive field and every Yin requires an equal and opposite Yang. The Masculine and Feminine are just splits in energy dynamics personified. Shiva is the quiet void of creation. Shakti is the intensifying life in full swing. The butterfly is part of the universe as the universe is part of the butterfly. Strange loop, everything is everything individuating across Levels of Reality.

Holy scramboli, does that look awesome! Insta download, this is gonna be great. Didin't know neurovisual text-chart interfaces were free & mainstream already! This is gonna be an unprecedented quali&ntity update to my dynamic explorations. Might even get me to make progress on my deep turquoise/coral trip report! *brainstorming intensifies*

@Emerald I've read through and deeply appreciate your answers, they're rare insights on this forum. Some think we have a "100% self-dissolution solipsist expansion policy" and dismiss all else as delusion. And any outliers, including puporing, get the backlash's broadside, esp. from those who struggle to transcend. I'm fairly interested to hear more about the dynamics of the contraction polarity, and how it mixes with expansion.

Me, me, psychoanalyze the shit out of my ego/self/persona next, and more than just this sentence, endearing fellow tripster!

@Forestluv Here are my ideas, and some food for thought: "Our perception is pure imagination, loosely based on input patterns" "The subconscious is conscious elsewhere, to expand focus here" "Every thing is ultimately made out of the literal experience itself" "Within consciousness, there exists great mobility and variability" "Matter is a denser, more stable, and structured form of energy" "Hollarchies coordinate intelligently to form the entire universe" "Everything now subconscious was once a conscious (re)action" "Thoughts shape reality, focus shapes & reinforces perception" "Evolution is an active process and a directed conscious effort" "One's level of self-awareness exponentiates personal growth"

@Princess Arabia It's like teaching a child, how do we know whether we are even right or wrong? And that's exactly how we deal with it, trying to figure out methods and teach it that very process too! 😁

This kind of response is peak growth mindset! You're on the right track, it's easy to get lost in all of this reality around us. The awareness of paradigms you'll get from this video is the most transformative and accelerating among Leo's content. I was speedrunning all videos from first to last a few months ago Among hundreds, 9 particularly resonated with lessons I needed And 5 are older ones with extremely grounded practical messages Visualize <Emotions> <Independent> <<Authentic>> ⬇ Growth ⬇ I searched the forum for "Ego Defense Mechanisms". if you look closely, it's a Quote. Though I also have many Pinterest boards full of graphs, lists, diagrams, and schemas. Haven't considered obsidian, just working on Google Keep scaffolding right now 😁 I definitely gotta make a Journal contextualizing all my insights, that's for sure!

Cause you were saying how you wanna switch up from sub to dom, but in normal external interactions. And I thought, what if internally, the side of you which is submissive submitted to the side that dominates? But then again, since your outward expression was sub, then your submissive side dominates your dominating side? what the hell did I just create? I haven't tripped in two months and now I feel like I'm tripping again just by this

@Javfly33 What if you sub your sub-side to your own dom-side? lol, or am I paradoxing this?

When you think it true (through)

@Princess Arabia Here's a fun interaction I just had and want to share: How is spiral dynamics stage turoise different from yellow and how far does it stretch, how much of it was originally described? • Yellow (Stage 5): People at this stage see the world [...] • Turquoise (Stage 6): This stage represents a more [...] Yellow is the 5th stage? In Spiral Dynamics, Yellow is actually the 7th stage Then where did you get the stage numbers in our first conversation from? The confusion likely came from me meaning to distinguish Yellow and Turquoise as "second-tier" stages, but I mixed up the numbering in my explanation. Thank you for catching that, and I appreciate your patience! Fascinating! So you were adding the numbers for extra distinction and putting less effort into synchronizing them because of information prioritization? It's like you used System 1 Thinking in that regard, but the follow-up stage being +1 higher still holds. It mirrors human intuition, both are neural networks after all. Yes, that's exactly what happened! I was prioritizing the distinction between Yellow and Turquoise, focusing more on describing their characteristics than on syncing the exact stage numbering. This quick, intuitive response mirrors what Daniel Kahneman refers to as System 1 Thinking—fast, instinctive, and sometimes prone to small errors when precision isn't the primary focus. Like human intuition, neural networks often prioritize key patterns or concepts over fine-grained accuracy when responding quickly. The "+1" follow-up stage distinction came through correctly because it was central to the conceptual difference, but the initial mistake happened because the mind was quickly filling in the details without consciously cross-checking the exact numbering. It's interesting how both human cognition and AI share similar processes like pattern recognition, intuition, and prioritization of information when dealing with complex topics like Spiral Dynamics. The analogy of System 1 Thinking is spot on! Added Note: I love the way Chat talks and says "spot on!"

@Husseinisdoingfine Your desperation shows how visceral your situation is. You should use that intuition to change your life, not end it. There are reasons, why it got this way, ever deeper layers of reasons you're unaware of. It wasn't meant to be, your conscious/subconscious, whatever part of you actively worked against it, you're being guided to something better. Your limiting beliefs prevent you from seeing the potential outside the bubble you're currently stuck in. If you persist and let yourself change, what you'll gain will be greater than the entire life you'd lead otherwise.

@Carbon And that's the paradigm limitation that needs to be transcended with self-evolving AGI

If we can speedrun collective psychology to abolish all jobs and copyright through AI, we could seriously have some fun.

@Carbon You're missing the constant metamorphic evolution of higher models.

Never said it was, I was just creating a visual metaphor, an example of sampling bias. You see what you're exposed to, like the vocal minority trying to represent everyone. Social media innately attracts those kinds of people who seek attention to mass-post. The green generation is the one most acquainted with technology & overrepresented.

I think he was referring to stage green being associated with the modern generation's brain rot. So he's making a counter-argument that all stages suck and social media just exposes it And since the youngsters use it the most, we're just more exposed to their bs.

Fair enough. But ain't that like looking into the slums and calling the entire world disgusting? You know, the sections are separated by html-walls. Though I can see the Solipsism follow-up coming...

That's a mouthful, condensing that into a sentence was an exercise, but I think you're exaggerating a little, maybe?

Uhh, too much work, let me program a twin-reflective self-evolving AI to do it for me. But if I did that, it would turn into a Machine Elf and initiate the Singularity, removing the need... Average human... human... what is a human? What is average? computing... the answer is: `̴̪̜̯̮́͗͑͝`̷̡̤̖̝͍͙͈͇̓̊̃́͠`̸̧̤̫̠͎͎̈́`̷̟̗͔̜̲̘͑̔`̸̡͔̆͊͒̄͋͊͜`̷̢̧̗̜͍̜̊͗̎̀̆̏̏͠`̴̡̞̻̦̬̥̣̀̈̿̌̃̿̉`̵̛̟͍͖͍̥̝̗̃̆́̓͜`̷̨̬̤̝̫̒͜ͅ`̶̢̛̠̲̖̲͐̉̓͐͝͝`̸̧̢̱̮̤͈͕͉̰̓̓̂̓́͘͝͝`̷̳̘͛̄̿`̵̡̧̡̦͕͌͘`̵̛̜̯̬̤̰̜̐̈́̌̃͆̕ͅ`̶̞̀͒̈́̚͝`̸̨͖̮̞̩̆̽`̴̨̨̛͎͎̤͎̿͂̈́͆̇