Keryo Koffa

@BlueOak I'm not entirely sure where all of this is supposed to lead, except "Nowhere" but what is that, is it as I'm consistently getting the impression of "A state of complete and utter denial of existence itself through its dissolution through one's own dissolution through the dissolution of every bias, and doing everything to keep it that was, so much so, to transcend the strange loop and just the nothingness without any sensation forever, the seeming end goal of all these pointers and language used" or is it just liberation from temporary suffering but not existence or its exploration in and of itself. You can come back tomorrow, I gotta sleep myself and it's gonna be a long day tomorrow.

Oh, that part is absolutely fascinating!!! I've been contemplating it a lot: Conscious-ness as a state of being and existence is of course independent from any materialization. But when we talk about an intelligent, self-organizing, coherent self, then it can get quite tricky. What we know, understand, contextualize and abide by is experience. Of course, experience is imagination, all a simulation, either consciousness' or the brains', doesn't matter. But we are strange looped into a bi-causal loop because we are the experience we also interact with. And we did emerge as the intelligent contextual field of understanding and relations that we are, physically. We can trace that development in many stages down our lives and see it mirrored in others. Yet on psychedelics, new realities open up, and each night, sleep takes us somewhere else entirely. So then, there are many many theories on what exactly the relation and nature of disembodied consciousness is. Whether we'd keep that cognition or whether it originates from outside this plane, or whatever it is. There are multiple ideas about the relationships, but essentially, the distinction needs to collapse. The experiences we have are, propel and evolve us through their dynamic polarity. But look at a single cell grow and notice that was you once and here you are. Before that cell, there was another, and all transcribed the new information in infinite fragmentation. And yet our sense of reality remains continuous. If you ask me, consciousness is immaterial and materializes its experience, setting up its vehicle. And the body is the vehicle that it imagines into existence and identifies with to navigate the world with. And it continuously encodes patterns pulled out of the infinite seed of imagination, transcribed into physicality. The body is a culmination of collected patterns/karma, responses, instincts, and survival mechanics. It's a smart and continuously self-automating integrative system of responses, to manage one's focus. As the body automates physical interaction with the world, consciousness can focus on ever-new endeavors. This system is like sand flowing down an hourglass, growing into an ever-larger mountain.

@Sugarcoat In that case let me blast the speakers full volume with @Schizophonia's mind-jam There's also a GneGneGne song, gnegnegne Kris, Fortnite GneGneGne rap & Gnegnegne on acid

Yay, more placebo.

I'll do you one better! You're God

"Are you running away from integration work?", asked Keryo Koffa with a mischievous grin 😁 the Princess, whose PTSD flashbacks 😣 had just kicked in. Beware of Someone here, K noted, "Oh my, did this just rhyme?" the narrator quoted.

You were not the one this response was meant toward, in fact, you probably introduced the most nuance here. And with wasting time, I meant ignoring alternate perspectives and straying away from a steelmanned synthesis. None of this was meant for you. You would serve as the antithesis, gathering various sources and perspectives. Yet you were hooked by the "There is no evil" part and that's interesting, so to respond to that part specifically: There is no evil, no action is done out of evil, out of restlessness, recklessness, hate, desire, passion but not evil. Done out of inferiority, superiority, trauma, ignorance, negligence, lack of compassion, connection but not evil. There are forces, contradictions, conflicts of interest, zero-sum games, negative sum outcomes, and yet no evil. There is hate, violence, desperation, coldness, suffering, sadism, pain, and grief, and still, there is no evil in sight. There is no evil that drives behavior and no evil to justify retaliation. All actions are driven, motivated, authentic. But there is no evil to blame and no evil to resent, no evil to scapegoat, and no person to dismiss as simply evil. No person is evil, people act in ways that seem evil and are detrimental to you, but evil has nothing to do with it. Detriments are within your perspective and your responsibility & opportunity. And detriments are not evil. Change is specific, circumstantial, evil is a label, and an easy one to dismiss blocks of reality without facing them. You reminded me of a passage that seems well suited towards you: "Quite simply, a belief in the good without a belief in the evil, may seem highly unrealistic to you. This belief, however, is the best kind of insurance that you can have, both during physical life and afterward. It may outrage your intellect, and the evidence of your physical senses may shout that it is untrue, yet a belief in good without a belief in evil is actually highly realistic, since in physical life it will keep your body healthier, keep you psychologically free of many fears and mental difficulties, and bring you a feeling of ease and spontaneity in which the development of your abilities can be better fulfilled. After death it will release you from the belief in demons and hell, and enforced punishment. You will be better prepared to understand the nature of reality as it is. I understand that the concept does indeed offend your intellect, and that your senses seem to deny it. Yet you should already realize that your senses tell you many things, which are not true; and I tell you that your physical senses perceive a reality that is a result of your beliefs. Believing in evils, you will of course perceive them. Your world has not tried the experiment as yet which would release you. Christianity was but a distortion of this main truth - that is, organized Christianity as you know it. I am not simply speaking here of the original precepts. They were hardly given a chance, and we will discuss some of this later in the book."

@Princess Arabia He's half a bambi, but the thrill is what makes it exciting 😁

@Schizophonia @Ulax

I'd sure hope so, dying on psychedelics ain't easy, ya know? 😁

There is no evil, but there is wasting time like a boss arguing without nuance & perspectival integration

There are no symptoms. There is no „inner work". maybe

Let's Go + the era & expanded universe it created are invaluable

Psychedelics shift your frequencies & give you perspective. There are many overlapping insights but it's also individual. Progressing by letting go of karma & immersion is common. Psychedelics are peaks though, you actually gotta transform.

Sounds like need faith in the possibility first, and faith to look for it, and faith to listen, and faith to care. And faith, that there's somewhere to get, and faith that you can get there, and faith in the drive within you.

Ask Chat to generate 100 advaita questions and you just stole half the members' jobs 😁 It's better yet because it's inquisitive pointers rather than repetitive "There is no x"

@Hojo I feel it. Nothing is wasted, everything adds to the experience and its post-appreciation. @LambdaDelta I've been there too, strange looped eternal repetition, and incoherent dissolusive hell. There were trips where I could surrender, but minimized bandwidth of comprehension itself sucks. @Staples That last part where before autonomy we emerge as a result of the environment reminds me of a quote: "Before we even know what we are, we fear to lose it." @r0ckyreed I put that Game off for way too long, now that you mention it, I really gotta integrate it. I've seen videos on prediction and the butterfly effect recently, it gets way too complex way too fast

@BlueOak Yay, save me with the Advaita quotes, Nothingness dogma is soooooooo great... "Who is the one asking the question?" "Where is the boundary between you and the world?" "What is witnessing this very thought?" "Who were you before the thought 'I am' arose?" "Can the seer be seen?" "What is here without labels or names?" "Who are you when you are not thinking?" "Where is the beginning of now?" "What lies beneath the constant stream of mind?" "Can the mirror see itself?" "Who experiences the body?" "What is prior to birth and death?" "What exists beyond the need for definition?" "Can the self be found in anything outside of this moment?" "Who is aware of your dreams?" "Is there a thinker behind the thoughts?" "Without memory, who are you?" "What is the source of the 'I'?" "Is the witness bound by time?" "Who stands apart to say 'I am'?" "Can anything arise without awareness?" "Where do thoughts come from, and where do they go?" "What is the nature of the silence within?" "Who holds onto the idea of a separate self?" "Is the perceiver different from what is perceived?" "What is the self made of?" "Can the 'I' be seen directly?" "Who experiences time if there is only the now?" "What observes both pleasure and pain?" "Who is beyond the body and mind?" "Where is the center of the universe if there is no 'you'?" "What is aware of the thoughts about the future?" "Who watches the unfolding of this moment?" "Can you point to yourself without thought?" "Where do you end and the world begin?" "Who controls the breath?" "What is left when you stop identifying with the mind?" "Is the self found in any object or sensation?" "What happens when you let go of the need to be someone?" "Who is aware of both waking and sleeping?" "What perceives even the most subtle feeling of 'I'?" "Can anything exist outside of awareness?" "Who is present in deep sleep?" "What is there before the mind assigns meaning?" "What observes the thoughts of both doubt and certainty?" "Who is the one waiting for liberation?" "Is the self separate from the flow of life?" "Who is there when the story of 'you' fades away?" "What remains when the sense of individuality dissolves?" "Who observes the witness?" "Who is aware of your awareness?" "Where does the 'I' reside?" "Who is listening right now?" "Can you observe the observer?" "Who notices the rise and fall of emotions?" "What sees beyond seeing?" "Who claims ownership over this body?" "Where do you go when thoughts stop?" "Who is it that seeks enlightenment?" "What is behind the feeling of being separate?" "Who is it that doubts?" "Can you find the thinker of your thoughts?" "What observes the passage of time?" "Who is aware of the mind's chatter?" "Where is the self you are trying to protect?" "Who watches thoughts pass like clouds?" "What lies beyond the identification with form?" "Is there a self apart from this moment?" "Who is the creator of experience?" "What is the source of your identity?" "Can you separate yourself from this present awareness?" "Who is aware of awareness being aware?" "What watches the changes in your body over time?" "Is there a 'you' outside of thought?" "Who is it that desires control?" "What witnesses the sleep and waking states?" "Where is the observer located?" "Who is the knower of all sensations?" "Can the self exist without being perceived?" "What lies between you and pure being?" "Who labels this experience?" "Where does the 'I' dissolve in deep meditation?" "Who fears the loss of self?" "What sees the world without filters?" "Who defines what 'you' are?" "Can you experience the world without a 'me'?" "What is prior to all thoughts of identity?" "Who is aware of the awareness of thought?" "What notices both effort and surrender?" "Where is the one who seeks peace?" "What witnesses all states of consciousness?" "Can the ego exist without attachment?" "Who experiences the flow of time?" "Where is the 'I' in the silence of being?" "Who feels separate from the universe?" "What remains when the story of 'self' falls away?" "Is there a thinker behind every thought?" "Who experiences both doubt and belief?" "What observes the space between thoughts?" "Can you separate yourself from awareness itself?"

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@Breakingthewall Nice!

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Well, you know what they say: "Transcend & Include", karma is karma, "Gotta burn it all!" 😁 And there's way more where that came from, hehe

For me, I wanted to transcend all of reality and enter the omniscience beyond. So my "coral trip" was an infinite singularity of complete universal convergence. Much of it, I consider zooming ever faster and deeper past Turquirse. To me, the main difference lies in focus and other-transcendent embodiment. While Turquoise leads humanity with spirit, Corals are completely submerged. In a way, Turquoise is the Boddhisatva Surface of the Ocean that Coral dives in. But I wouldn't say Coral is pure Solipsism or Formless or anything like that. Constructing & becoming something means immediate experiential empathy. You are complete and omnipotent as a holon, yet you are not alone. Consciousness coordinates at all scales, with awareness and perspective. There is constant creation, deconstruction, self-construction, and exploration. I see it as: "Every drop in the Ocean carries within itself the entirety of the Ocean" And from every drop, a new Ocean emerges, all connected, all sovereign Holons. Each drop adds a perspective previously absent in its immersive self-exploration And the drops together also synergize waves, that carry forward collectively. But I don't consider myself grounded in Coral, I had profound experiences. And I have many many stages to integrate still, that Trip was very frantic. And yet I remember and it recontextualizes everything before still.