Keryo Koffa

But scientists sample confounding placebo-controlled statistically significant cross-sectional & longitudinal operational randomized sampling bias accounting block cohort power-meta-analysis studies. And direct experience is far more subjective, limited, circumstantial, self-relating, perspectival & self-bias unaccounting, relationally speaking. Which is why I recommend the artist approach, get experimental, try things out, take it easy, have fun, don't aim for an outcome but enjoy the process, and master the craft as you explore and draw upon all perspectives offered, integrating them into your toolset, while never getting attached to any in particular, which you otherwise would fall into the trap of, were you using a purely "direct experience" type approach or a scientific model sampling reality based on one's preconceived assumptions backward rationalized by correlations. I just felt like writing a bit, not critiquing you or anything, just wanted to see what my mind would come up with 😁

But to whom? 🤔

"The whole dream should be just like this!"

Oh my, this reminds me so much of the Deadpool game, especially the timestamped part! And the rest of the video is Cable (@Someone here) convincing you to go for God instead But we all know, what you're going for, @Spiritual Warfare! 😁 BTW, here's some wacky inspiration for things to lucid dream about hehehe

How about an artist? 😜

Heh, thanks. Sure got off the wrong foot in that thread, I heard "explain the basics of tech". So I thought, "Okay, let's go the cavemen roleplay of inventing the first tools" But it went past my head that the context went past your head So then we started arguing & I started flexing, 'till we went bananas I turned 24 recently btw, so now I have to keep up with the growing expectations! I sure miss tripping, where I could just get a quick & free upgrade to my intelligence, that was fun 😁

@Hojo Maybe the real pyramid was you all along! When I turn my head, your pfp is full of pyramids 😁

@Hojo There's also the Dhyanalinga & Kailash for all the Sadhguru enjoyers @Ishanga For the rest of everyone across cultures & traditions, there are tons of other significances

@Hojo Babel, 'nuff said

@Someone here Dashes are great syntacto-linguistic tools for separating qualitatively groups of words in sentences. "After a split second of hesitation, the second baseman leaped for the ball—or, rather, limped for it." The rain in the forecast—because it came after a long, unbroken stretch of sunny days, at a time of year that is usually quite wet—made the gardeners happy even though they had to reschedule the event. I don't actually recall seeing dashes in your replies though.

It's nothing personal, Leo is probing and pushing us all out of our comfort zones. Being at the frontier, he already went through most of these challenges himself. It was an exaggerated yet poignant example, that hits some more than others. We are consistently going through many topics regarding suffering on the forum. The example of the monkey torture thread from last month speaks for itself. It's never meant to hurt someone's feelings but to teach and prepare you for life. Yet it's all a balance, each person carries different experiences, feelings & regrets. We're all doing our best, to walk the line between profound, humorous & sensitive. And each conversation and thread like this adds to our mutual understanding.

Which awakening am I on?

@Joshe Aww, that's the sweetest thing I heard in weeks! It's like I've been playing a game and just noticed I missed a gazillion side missions and NPC dialogues. There are so many parts that went unexplored, and lots of events & opportunities unappreciated. And also tons of moments I'd love to revisit and reexperience for the nostalgia and memes. Like the quicksilver video edit I posted, but swooping through the time dimension instead. And so many memories & promises forgotten, I'd love to connect & fulfill all of them. It's like that Futurama dog scene, it's just too sad, you just gotta go Retrocausality on it. But I'm not sure it's up to me to initiate all of that in this particular way during this lifetime. The more I think about it, the more it seems everyone will have their hands full doing that after-life. To recontextualize, revisit, and mend each part of the psyche and each experience past. To realign & expand, not reverse but "proverse", to reconstruct and rebuild any mistake. The self remains, the memory remains, the experience remains, included, mended, transcended. I think for you, as a science guy, I'll have a good metaphor: Imagine you could freely and precisely observe the structure of your brain/mind. And you see lots of inefficiencies, redundancies, disconnected neurons, synaptic errors, damages... And now imagine you have the ability to mend it, to synchronize the entire structure with awareness. You can heal it from the inside out, you transverse your own structure and can mend it where needed. Of course, it's much more exciting than just fixing stuff and improving some "rounding errors" You can traverse its entirety, and learn how it changes, evolves, and connects. In holistic fashion, you link separate areas, make space, optimize, and revamp, it's great. And the psychic equivalent of a physical mechanism exists through deep meditative introspection. If done right at least, in my case, I had exogenous aids, and fixing the past = fixing the present. You don't have to literally revisit the past, it was just a cool idea, but I think I'll leave it for the afterlife 😁 Then again, I turned 24 a bit ago, which means I'm like super freaking old, not even boomer, silent gen.

@Butters That's spoiler territory, as far as your consciousness is concerned 😁 But don't worry, once you do find out it'll be almost as anti-climatic as the origin of "Leo" 😅 I promise you, once you get telepathy, that's when the real party starts!

You gotta use the psychic pointer that he is while tripping and when you get into Leo's mind through telepathy, that's when reality gets more and more wacky, you'll also realize why he's called Leo and it'll be the most anti-climactic thing ever. 😁

@Joshe There's definitely something very powerful and universal behind that, though I can't quite catch it yet. As for the forum communication, it's fine, it's all about throwing out responses (posts/threads) and everyone coming together and seeing who holds strong opinions to discuss. I myself definitely had profound moments of getting triggered and still do sometimes at certain responses. But we grow after the initial reaction, sometimes from calming down and observing it, and other times by releasing the self-doubt that was previously hidden. At the end of the day, we're all a bunch of infinitely interactive holons flying around in the aether, finding each other through various gravitational forces 😁

@BlueOak I'm not entirely sure where all of this is supposed to lead, except "Nowhere" but what is that, is it as I'm consistently getting the impression of "A state of complete and utter denial of existence itself through its dissolution through one's own dissolution through the dissolution of every bias, and doing everything to keep it that was, so much so, to transcend the strange loop and just the nothingness without any sensation forever, the seeming end goal of all these pointers and language used" or is it just liberation from temporary suffering but not existence or its exploration in and of itself. You can come back tomorrow, I gotta sleep myself and it's gonna be a long day tomorrow.

Oh, that part is absolutely fascinating!!! I've been contemplating it a lot: Conscious-ness as a state of being and existence is of course independent from any materialization. But when we talk about an intelligent, self-organizing, coherent self, then it can get quite tricky. What we know, understand, contextualize and abide by is experience. Of course, experience is imagination, all a simulation, either consciousness' or the brains', doesn't matter. But we are strange looped into a bi-causal loop because we are the experience we also interact with. And we did emerge as the intelligent contextual field of understanding and relations that we are, physically. We can trace that development in many stages down our lives and see it mirrored in others. Yet on psychedelics, new realities open up, and each night, sleep takes us somewhere else entirely. So then, there are many many theories on what exactly the relation and nature of disembodied consciousness is. Whether we'd keep that cognition or whether it originates from outside this plane, or whatever it is. There are multiple ideas about the relationships, but essentially, the distinction needs to collapse. The experiences we have are, propel and evolve us through their dynamic polarity. But look at a single cell grow and notice that was you once and here you are. Before that cell, there was another, and all transcribed the new information in infinite fragmentation. And yet our sense of reality remains continuous. If you ask me, consciousness is immaterial and materializes its experience, setting up its vehicle. And the body is the vehicle that it imagines into existence and identifies with to navigate the world with. And it continuously encodes patterns pulled out of the infinite seed of imagination, transcribed into physicality. The body is a culmination of collected patterns/karma, responses, instincts, and survival mechanics. It's a smart and continuously self-automating integrative system of responses, to manage one's focus. As the body automates physical interaction with the world, consciousness can focus on ever-new endeavors. This system is like sand flowing down an hourglass, growing into an ever-larger mountain.

@Sugarcoat In that case let me blast the speakers full volume with @Schizophonia's mind-jam There's also a GneGneGne song, gnegnegne Kris, Fortnite GneGneGne rap & Gnegnegne on acid

Yay, more placebo.

I'll do you one better! You're God

"Are you running away from integration work?", asked Keryo Koffa with a mischievous grin 😁 the Princess, whose PTSD flashbacks 😣 had just kicked in. Beware of Someone here, K noted, "Oh my, did this just rhyme?" the narrator quoted.

You were not the one this response was meant toward, in fact, you probably introduced the most nuance here. And with wasting time, I meant ignoring alternate perspectives and straying away from a steelmanned synthesis. None of this was meant for you. You would serve as the antithesis, gathering various sources and perspectives. Yet you were hooked by the "There is no evil" part and that's interesting, so to respond to that part specifically: There is no evil, no action is done out of evil, out of restlessness, recklessness, hate, desire, passion but not evil. Done out of inferiority, superiority, trauma, ignorance, negligence, lack of compassion, connection but not evil. There are forces, contradictions, conflicts of interest, zero-sum games, negative sum outcomes, and yet no evil. There is hate, violence, desperation, coldness, suffering, sadism, pain, and grief, and still, there is no evil in sight. There is no evil that drives behavior and no evil to justify retaliation. All actions are driven, motivated, authentic. But there is no evil to blame and no evil to resent, no evil to scapegoat, and no person to dismiss as simply evil. No person is evil, people act in ways that seem evil and are detrimental to you, but evil has nothing to do with it. Detriments are within your perspective and your responsibility & opportunity. And detriments are not evil. Change is specific, circumstantial, evil is a label, and an easy one to dismiss blocks of reality without facing them. You reminded me of a passage that seems well suited towards you: "Quite simply, a belief in the good without a belief in the evil, may seem highly unrealistic to you. This belief, however, is the best kind of insurance that you can have, both during physical life and afterward. It may outrage your intellect, and the evidence of your physical senses may shout that it is untrue, yet a belief in good without a belief in evil is actually highly realistic, since in physical life it will keep your body healthier, keep you psychologically free of many fears and mental difficulties, and bring you a feeling of ease and spontaneity in which the development of your abilities can be better fulfilled. After death it will release you from the belief in demons and hell, and enforced punishment. You will be better prepared to understand the nature of reality as it is. I understand that the concept does indeed offend your intellect, and that your senses seem to deny it. Yet you should already realize that your senses tell you many things, which are not true; and I tell you that your physical senses perceive a reality that is a result of your beliefs. Believing in evils, you will of course perceive them. Your world has not tried the experiment as yet which would release you. Christianity was but a distortion of this main truth - that is, organized Christianity as you know it. I am not simply speaking here of the original precepts. They were hardly given a chance, and we will discuss some of this later in the book."

@Princess Arabia He's half a bambi, but the thrill is what makes it exciting 😁