numbersinarow

Feels fucking perfect to cut off contact with false shepherds. They may appear blackpilled but they are in reality just there to keep you spinning around. I will never seek out anyone who doesn't align, 24/7, with the rejection of earthly """pleasures""" and the embracement of meditation. They've been given their chance but no longer. The demiurge's #1 goal is to keep you stuck. You are stuck when you think sex and money are possible, they're impossible. The system is rigged. If you're not acknowledging this and telling people to go straight to meditation then you're working for the system regardless of your intentions. It could be the case that the only true rejection of the system is honest attachment to these things and accepting full lack of hope, but for now I will see if spirituality is truly bullshit or not.

Everything is just too good to be true. Imagine the escape to painless eternity from a reality that is indifferent and fundamentally negative being just a simple action. Suicide, regardless of what you think about it, is like Christ. A Christ you know for a fact* is real.

Pretty funny.

So... notice how he keeps saying "THIS person engaged well" but then at the same time tries to discredit people who think that you can't actually challenge a subjective statement? Right, flexing knowledge of basic logical... oh wait. That actually tells you otherwise.

Ad hominem because you're an incredibly emotionally unstable example of someone arguing for veganism. What RESULT do you get by going vegan? Reduced suffering. But still suffering. You've failed. And you can't make an argument against it. After getting that previous absolute beatdown against your seemingly undeveloped brain I'm not sure why you keep going. I guess you're a glutton for punishment. I've demonstrated that all your arguments are wrong with practically zero effort and you immediately zero in on a technicality. Lmao. You didn't even capitalize "English" on top. The fact that you can't understand that saying "this is stupid" and quoting it then going on to show you have no argument against it, doesn't actually mean that it's bad, it means that it's a good argument. Otherwise you would not spend 10 hours saying pointless shit, you would actually take just 10 seconds to argue against it. You literally feel so defeated by me you have to fall back on appeals to popularity AKA thinking that someone reading this will somehow agree with you because they agree that you should vote? Your one vote won't change anything. This makes vegans look bad. I never claimed you're vegan. Are you legally illiterate? "Attack" and "challenge" are so obviously being used in the same context here that I don't know why you would ever feel the need to type the above (unless you're literally going insane, which, yeah, I wouldn't blame you for thinking that.) Impressive. And you do agree with me, you will see that if you read your own comment. You appealed to subjectivity riiiiight after saying that I'm not in the right for pointing out that there's no way to properly "challenge" a simple subjective statement. This could literally be said about anyone in response to anything. It's beyond childish how utterly dishonest you are. Oh so that literally doesn't address one thing I've said. We are talking about bacteria because in an analogy, you don't need EVERYTHING to be the same, you just need it to make sense. For example if someone used an analogy about slavery about something mundane, and it worked, someone like you would presumably unironically not be able to get it, would lash at the person you are talking to in the most comical, ironic, nonsensical way imaginable and claim, in your own profound ignorance, that they're wrong because they brought up something which isn't as severe (doesn't have every conceivable factor of the thing it's trying to explain to you). It doesn't actually need to be the case that you can change what happens to bacteria, but even on that point you're somehow wrong. You COULD end up transcending life and no longer killing those bacteria. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge that a meat eater could think about animals what you think about bacteria shows exactly what kind of person I'm wasting my time on. Not ONE attempt to actually address this. At least stick to one point instead of switching topics.

You are wrong and your body kills bacteria. Consuming other things to live is a fundamental fact of life. If you want to have subjective standards for what you care about, the way the typical vegan does, that's okay. Keep it to yourself (respectfully.)

Okay.

You will get that result regardless of causing it or not. Do you have some kind of...? Like this can't be real right? You're just making vegans look worse if you're being serious. If you're just trolling to make vegans look worse that's one thing. One person going vegan results in the exact same animal slaughter, so none of what you said is valid. Make new arguments that actually work. Really a weak analogy (doesn't really matter much either way) because loving every animal is not the same as "I love someone so I would directly prevent them from being tortured and killed." As we have established there are 2 huge differences there. Of course there is no reason why anything is objectively wrong. You in fact don't have to care about anything. Lol so you literally just massively contradicted yourself and called yourself someone without 1 brain cell, because you're saying that it's just subjective that you care about animals and are therefore going vegan. But there is nothing to attack there. That's just a subjective fact which doesn't get anyone anywhere. You literally agree with me. If you're just stating something subjective then asking people to attack it is completely nonsensical. If you think that the argument you quoted is silly, then a meat eater can just tell you that caring about animals is silly. You think it's just self-evident bacteria are inferior? There are meat eaters who think animals are just self-evidently inferior.

All of the real biokinesis videos have been removed from youtube. And there has been a flood in recent years of completely/obviously fake videos and disinfo about how "subliminal messages" are how biokinesis works when in reality that's just how the fake ones claim it works. Other video sites don't seem to be any better. Do you know of any actually functioning biokinesis videos?

What do I challenge? There's no propositions at all, just a subjective statement which could be true no matter what variable you have. Or is the proposition "If one loves animals one ought to be a vegan."? It doesn't really make much sense considering that you going vegan will still result in animal slaughter continuing. You can post massively biased vegan memes but you DO probably care about not just suffering, but killing, if you have empathy. And vegans kill plants and the bacteria in their body, they aren't willing to case living in order to make their body stop killing bacteria. That argument is invalid to them. Well, to a meat eater, you apply the same logic to animals, and to them, that argument is invalid. What a similarity. You can't POSSIBLY think there's an objective way to decide that the bacteria are inferior to animals. This amounts to a huge amount of bias and self-justification for an emotional decision.

As I pointed out in another thread on this sub-forum, meditation is a 10000000000000000000 times stronger tool for getting to know enlightenment than drugs will ever be.

I mean... books were written by mortals, and a lot of times midwits, and a lot of times extremely biased midwits. Meditation was made by the core of reality. If you have the option between theory and meditation, you should always choose meditation.

"It's even worse than you said, it's a total nightmare."

That 100+ body count is just a fantasy designed by maya to leech off your suffering. I literally just can't wrap my head around the fact that we are thrown into an existence where we know nothing. In reality we are the truest strangers to this meaningless indifferent universe as can be. And in it you have to watch as others have something you are forced to desire, effortlessly, while absolute demons and torture are placed in the most absolute way in between you and it.

I'm heavily considering quitting lucid dreaming, it will leave you completely broken and defeated to fail when you thought you would succeed, and way more so to succeed but then be utterly powerless and experience yet another lucid dream where you don't do anything then are forced to slip back into non-lucidity 15 seconds later.