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@Gennadiy1981 If you are enlightened, you shall absolutely hate and despise every formalized in-group, such as religion. All religions, to me, are equivalent to soft Nazism at best and hard Nazism at worst. They promote a fixed mindset that fosters hate against humanity's unity, breeding division, which ultimately leads to hatred and a preference for one's own group, resulting in the hatred of other groups. Even if the ego keeps denying this evident truth, they are all a mental poison and should not be tolerated at all. They make the mind aesthetically ugly, prompt you to pick imagined sides that are outside of love, and foster hate, hatred, despise, and negativity. There is only hell and misery in identification with any in-group; enlightenment shall shatter these divisions entirely for the one thing that is worth it: love. Ultimately, anyone who feels triggered by someone insulting their favored fairy tale has not truly touched real enlightenment at all.

the best thing everyone can do is dropping the identity game. Identity is suffering, attachment to it is wishing to stay in hell forever.

@Kuba Powiertowski what are others ?

did it happen in a dream ?

@Lilia on my first instinct, I would say you're absolutely correct about "maths". notice it's just integer of symbols that you want to project a part of the infinite experience that you've upon them. You can be good at maths, even makes breakthrough in maths and never even understand that 1+1= 2

@OBEler you don't need any psychedelics to awaken, in fact they don't exist at all, and what they do isn't anywhere. you still don't realize that psychedelic is litteraly a game you're playing with yourself. I've seen people extremly enlightened without any, and people deeply shallow who did a tons of them. Psychedelic is one way to add a frame to the movie, but there might be nothing at all here.

@Inliytened1 you might be dreaming that "awakening" makes one "relaxed". unless relaxed means "relaxed", then we might agree.

@Inliytened1 Do you think this is what we do by being here, maximizing immersion ? Why one shall immerse ?

@Inliytened1 True but then, who is receiving that ? again speaking with yourself ?

If a mass shooter took refuge in a classroom full of kindergarteners, would you ever think it was okay to bomb the classroom ?

Religion don't exist really. the truth is that, when your mind get attached to a set of "value/belief/practices" then you've a religion. Not having one, is : waking up as Hitler, another day as Gandhi, another day as Mao, another day as Jesus christ, another day as Buddha, another day as moïse. The day you start being a character, you are into a religion. But also if you fail to be a character of your making, you might also be inside a religion of not having one. Careful here.

Religion is only misery and inspire me with pity, of course I consider materialism and atheism equally religions.

no idea

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Don't be too onanistic, take break sometimes, a deep breath and a walk, fresh air, long debate with yourself will still be there after it.

When you'll be "bored" enough, you'll naturally move elsewhere.

or maybe you're a bias toward your idea that an organic system such as a state cannot be corrupted " that much " how would you know which it is, ho but you know better, I hope for you, because if that's not the case, you might not survive. I mean, the good position is not to be a rebel or a believer in institutions, it's to be where one needs to be at the right time. if you have convictions based on your feelings on how the world shall or has to be it might also be very dangerous.

it change "you" but there is no more "you" to be found. Also nothing has changed, but maybe everything has. you witness you being nothing at all, and that is also nothing.

@Razard86 solipsism is another word for death. the only distinction is that, everyone is already dead, but the ego don't want to hear that, so it's clinging and produce an extremly strong delusional state that it will call "reality".

@Someone here you know you are not deluded, the moment you realize that you'll permanently be deluded.

@Nabd Interesting talk from Zizek, but I disagree on some parts. No religious states shall ever exist. No countries shall be based on cult values. Humans are humans, and nationalism, religion, and tribalism are primitive concepts that should not be tolerated.

you only debunking yourself

@Leo Gura I don't even need to conceptualize it. I have to conceptualize human metric usually.

@BlueOak great points. Also what's success but a fairy tail to keep building and selling shit most of the time.

@DefinitelyNotARobot my favorite episode