Francis777

could be, good take. I suppose all the ego's desires are just gods desires but corrupted by limitation.

Yes, I’ve been moving away for a while now, from the idea that the absolute desire of the ego is survival. It doesn’t make sense because without a reason to survive, you simply wouldn’t. You need a WHY if you want continue surviving, survival itself is not a reason, it’s just a medium you maintain so that can go on exploring. In my opinion @Razard86 I agree with all 4 points you made, however I don’t believe they are the defining motivation and desire of the ego. What you’ve stated actually reinforces my perspective on this, try and notice this, how everything that you wrote actually ties up with what i think it is: I think the singular primordial desire of the ego is to know itself.. BUT! It cannot ever truly know itself until death. So it avoids it and tries to find work arounds and loopholes so that it can satiate that desire. And what is the conclusion that it comes to? “If I can’t definitively prove and figure out who I am, then I’ll just create an identity!” This is the ultimate solution for the ego, if I can’t prove what I am (and it can’t of course until death) then I will just decide for myself what I am! At which point it goes through all of the dysfunctional ways you described trying to figure out who it wants to be. It then settles on something and is satisfied with it, feels comfortable and good with it, then does everything in its power to solidify and cement that so that it can keep that sensation of that primordial desire fulfilled. - Notice how it always circles back to this desire. And what is a way that it can cement this identity outside of itself (outside of itself because just one person agreeing with this identity is too fragile and sure to be questioned, better to have thousands so it holds more weight) and keep that desire fulfilled? This: By creating a legacy! And how do you then make everyone go along with your legacy cementing it further, and diving ever so deeper in to the comfortability of having that desire for-filled?…(again you reinforce this: …With power! The ultimate security of this identity is to secure it with force! Anyone that says otherwise you can just banish. This is why the ego has been infatuated with power since it’s inception! This is why the ego strives for control, control in itself is not an incentive. It’s all so the ego can scratch the itch of not knowing who it is because it’s too scared to die and discover the truth. Everything else is secondary. This is my take on it at least, you can see how they match up.

You’ve got to investigate what kind of emotions came up when he bullied you and ask whether or not the trauma was there before and he just brought it to light, or whether he affirmed a new unworthy reality for you and you accepted it. Figure out which it was and then you can work on undoing/releasing it.

@Dodo yes, agree to disagree

YOUR NOT FOOLING ANYONE WITH YOUR PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE GASLIGHTING, GIVE IT UP YOU FOOL. It’s so obvious that you’ve got the mindset of a 14 year old that thinks he’s some sort of mastermind, that’s twice now that you’ve mentioned “winning” as if it matters. Listen good here buddy, in future if your going to be passive aggressive and patronise people on the sly in your replies with the expectation that it’s going to go over their heads because your so fucking clever.. DONT! Dont act surprised and take the moral high ground when they pick up on it get pissed off and reply with that same energy! Infant.

Your entire reply was ego! I know I was being egoic, it was intentional! My point was that you were on your high horse calling people out for the exact thing that you were doing but were too ignorant to be aware that you were doing it you buffoon! Nothing worse than people who call people out while simultaneously doing the exact same thing, it's so obvious, get a grip man. Trying to play the masterful sensei, if anyone's cringe its you!

ah that's nothing, your probably just not used to them, keep tripping. Thinking back to it, I had trouble with my balance the first time I tripped

yes, same point

your living proof of this you donkey Not knowing does not imply that you can't have a meta understanding of god

There is an "I" Its just not an "I" that can be a specific distinction. That's what god is, that is the true "I" Any "I" that can be specifically distinct is just the true "I" falling for its own illusion of separation.

how many trips have you had?

Leo how do you deal with the selfishness of all the people around you, these last few years of my life I have become increasingly aware of exactly how selfish people around me are, specifically people that I deem to be decent/good in the scheme of things. This has been the hardest part, that even the "good" people are still incredibly selfish. It's making me despise people and I get so fucking angry and resentful of them, I keep it to myself 90% of the time though because I know that they don't have the slightest fucking bit of awareness about it. But that isn't an excuse that I can just go along with because I also know that they aren't aware of it because they don't give a shit! They are not aware because they make zero effort to be aware of it. They just go around bullshitting people so that they don't have to look at themselves. Any "effort" that they do make is not actually to be selfless but to disguise their selfishness and gaslight people so that they don't get called out on it. How do you integrate this? It makes me wonder why I even make any effort myself. They are getting what they want, living exactly how they please because they are selfish. While I am suffering to be good to people because I couldn't live with myself if I didn't. And let me reiterate, I don't think these are bad people!! Its becoming evident to me that nearly every human on the planet is just so unbelievably selfish, regardless of if you compare them to each other! Yes this is a rant, I needed to vent. I just want some perspective that isn't "oh you need to be more accepting and appreciative". Even if it is true, it just isn't working for me at the minute. Why should I suffer while your living comfortably soley because your ignorant.

ah, maybe it was just such a rapid expansion of consciousness compared to all your other trips that your body couldn't adapt in time. Like a brand new elastic band, you have to stretch it a few times before it loosens up and can handle more tension, and if you do it too fast it can tear. If you catch my drift.

that's where your understanding is tripping up, he's merely saying that humanism is purely a construct of the mind, and all the ways in which that construct operates and forms reality is what a human is. But his mind no longer abides by that construct and now operates and forms reality in a such a radically different way that he cant even call it human because it shows zero correlation. the way in which the mind behaves is what creates humanism. Leo claims his mind behaves in a way that cannot be confined in his pre- existing human structure, therefore he is no longer human.

If you are going to be edgy and risky just make sure to keep it playful. You can be as dangerous as you want when your completely aware of what vibe your giving off. Practise re-expressing all of your most risky game in the form of a joke. If you feel like a creep when your saying it, she's gonna receive it as creepy, its literally that simple. If your confident in your vibe and express that you mean no harm then its very unlikely that she's going to feel uncomfortable.

Are you an unhealthy person? I Think psychedelics can be physically uncomfortable on a body that is not in good shape as it open up so much energy in it. Maybe the body is trying to work through some emotional energy, it's rare that I don't have to lay down for a bit at least once in my trips. The body isn't designed to function well on psychedelics, it takes a lot of practise.

I believe he means a type of consciousness that is so radically different that you could call it other worldly, that's why he says alien. Because it holds zero recognition within human consciousness, therefore it is extra-terrestrial.

sounds ridiculous but it could be what you said about the kundalini energy, what leo mentioned in his videos. The bodies energy system is far more complex than just the 7 chakras, you have around 114 link up points (chakras, energy centers) that run all throughout your body, I'm pretty sure there are micro centres exactly where your burns are. They lay on pathways called meridians. I looked up which meridian your burns lay on and it's called the "triple heater/warmer meridian" and there is an energy point exactly where your burns are. Here's a quote for what that meridian handles : "Triple Warmer is the meridian that controls our fight, flight, or freeze response. According to Donna Eden, author of Energy Medicine, the triple warmer impacts the immune system and our ability to manage stress." It makes sense that if you had a terrifying trip then you might of overstimulated this pathway and energy needed to escape for the safety of the rest of the body. Could be nonsense, maybe something to look into.

interesting, did you trip alone? Could be an allergic reaction.

Think you’ve kind of answered your own question, lsd lasts a long time and can be draining, if you do it when your already tired then your going to have an even more uncomfortable body load. also coffee is a complete stimulant, psychedelics have stimulating effects but are not a true stimulant. psychedelics can relax your body in ways that hard to achieve when sober, but they also keep you wide awake. If you fight the relaxation of your body with your mind then it can cause extreme tension, you just have to let the body do what it wants to do, don’t try to fight it. you’ll find that if you let the body work through the energy and let it flow wherever it wants to go then the body load will often dissipate into extreme bliss.

Could be the case. You may have to evolve into a purely energetic being to sustain these levels.

I will admit, this rant probably wouldn’t have even been written if I wasn’t projecting the struggles of my kundalini symptoms that have literally forced me to change. Never the less it’s still true.

I understand the metaphysical redundancy of what I’m complaining about. However I don’t think every problem needs to be addressed at that level, it’s not very practical and when dealing with people in social environments you need to be somewhat practical. Again I don’t have people in my life that are particularly selfish to me directly (I’m being generous with this statement). It’s the general ignorance of people that allows them to carry on parading as they please while I’ve had to change my ways because I actually gave a shit about holding myself accountable for the sake of everyone else. But yes @Razard86 maybe this is just a sign that I’ve outgrown this “practical” level of consciousness and need to integrate the metaphysical side more into my social life. Lol I guess we could say the practical side is getting less and less practical

PTSD therapist lol

I second this, not everyone is articulate. But best to work through of these blockages first. They may inhibit you from being intuitive when you speak. If you cant relax properly at a deep level when expressing yourself your never going to be as fluid and creative as you'd like to.