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@NoSelfSelf You might be right man. Maybe I should just text her and say you know I’m not gunna lie I’m in it for the casual sex if you’re up for it But you also might be wrong and that’s too strong at this stage. I’ve met her once, we flirted we brushed up against each other and I got her number. In hindsight I should have got an insta date when I saw her rather than just getting her number Because if you are right then that would be the strategy to deploy each time on dating apps to basically send a message and say look girl I’m up for sex. Maybe it works for some maybe others it doesn’t I’ll figure it out myself. I can only know through trial and error

I have an auntie who is very negative. It’s almost like she wants it to fail. Completely different mindset. She’s achieved diddly squat in her life and is in no position to cast judgment on someone taking a punt at their ambitions. I just don’t speak to her lol aside from her the rest of my family are pretty supportive and understand the toll it takes

I’ll assume she also wants the sex 😂 I’ll see how it goes. We can drink wine and make love if all goes well

@Javfly33 Project management is pretty easy. You just have loads of meetings and delegate tasks

If I was completely honest about my intentions with her it would be to say I’m up for casual sex. I think that’s a bit too honest at this stage in the game lol

@Lila9 true there is toxic shit with some PUA but then it could be argued is that actually PUA? The PUA I see from Leo and Richard La Ruina is not toxic in the slightest but people would say that it is You can only do an actual pick up if you do it right and bring your masculine energy to the table in a confident and highly calibrated manner. If you aren’t doing that then you’re not really doing PUA What you need to realise is that PUA as a blanket thing is considered toxic. It does not matter if it actually is or not, society says that it is and that’s the way it is but this is not right actually. Men need those skills and this is why many men feel disenfranchised especially young men who are starting out in the world and not getting love saying all of the above spirituality is ultimately the cornerstone of your entire life. Men need to connect with the divine as an essential part of their life

Actually rather than start a new thread here’s another way to ask Give me 5 things guys commonly do wrong when it comes to text game and 5 things guys do right So I feel like not staying in set long enough ie being quantity over quality is one of the common things guys do wrong i don’t like specific text examples of what you should or should not have said. You can only know yourself and through the context of the interaction. Every interaction and person is different so that doesn’t really help but overarching themes/principles do Wish we could just be old school and chat over the phone but the ladies do not like this at early stages!

@Shakazulu Yeh just started a thread on this. Text game needs more attention Im one of those guys that’s just more comfortable with F2F or a phone call. I need to just get over that because texting is just the way it’s done to secure the dates and move to the next level. Feels easier to learn when you’re out in the field. Text game is harder because you don’t get that emotional side and body language to really see what is and isn’t work and importantly why I don’t second guess myself anywhere near as much in a F2F interaction with a beautiful woman as I do with text game. The dating apps make it worse as well I have a bias against the whole digital world we live in as well. It’s the source of so much dysfunction but just gotta accept it and play the text game

I need to just get better at it and not worry about making a mistake and plough In person this is not really an issue for me I’m just far more sure of myself and I can fall back on my charisma and sexual intent

@NoSelfSelf Yeh that’s it Ive actually just had a revelation what might be hindering my success. I’m not staying in set long enough Because I don’t like texting I’ll text her for a bit and then fuck off to text her a few days later. This is not right actually. I need to stay in set and plough it more and build a rapport (as much as you possibly ever can with text) Basically it’s a quality over quantity thing. When you text her and she texts you back you have her attention so stay in set and plough for longer. By texting for a bit and fucking off to then text again a few days later it’s breaking her attention and then she’s less likely to respond on the second or third time. She’ll be thinking oh he’s texting me again

@Ulax 😂😂 That is essential listening

@NoSelfSelf would prefer more general guidance. Just gets too messy with specific examples Or more to the point insights would be better Ultimate problem is I second guess too much creating inhibition which I don’t get F2F. I’m probs different to a lot of people in that respect as many I think prefer the safety of communicating through a digital medium

I just hate the way I second guess more with texting. It’s just so far removed from normal F2F interaction and you can’t get that emotional connection going. Like 80% of communication is non verbal or something like that which I’m better at I think for me it’s developing a skill that’s almost imagining the person in the room talking to you and then responding so it’s as if you are there in person But yeh biggest problem I think is I second guess it too much. In part because of these dating apps that are all about the text game. Fucking shit. Sometimes I hate the digital world lol I’m a very emotional person so the disconnect with the digital world I really hate

@Yimpa yeh gifs are pretty good

Loads of good stuff. I really like the ones on love and god consciousness. Also psychedelics.

@Lila9 There’s a lot more social norms to navigate now in being a ‘modern man’ so having to be emotionally sensitive but also strong and confident. What a man can and can’t do. What a man can and can’t say it’s more complicated now creating a kind of mental burden rather than going with the flow of your emotions Of course a lot of this is ultimately to do with sex and relationships. Men are told one thing but then when faced with reality they must do another. I feel that a lot of the language and social norms have emasculated men. Some of that is fair game, but much of it has over compensated and inhibited direct intent In addition men are deeply disconnected from spirit. Women have more of that emotional connectivity that men need also The final thing actually is that modern capitalism sells us junk and men like women consume that junk effecting performance

@Consept That is understandable. A lot of people just don’t have the consciousness to connect the dots with hypocrisy and consider the impact of racism. There’s a lot of generational trauma Okay to get pissed off about it the only thing is that people are the way they are because of their upbringing and the people who influenced them. Nobody is born a racist they just become one through poor conscious development

@Alexop yes no need to get pissy

@enchanted Loads of things One of the biggest is capitalist exploitation of children and I’m not even talking about extreme cases because they’re obvious. Fast food companies for instance selling utter trash to our children and marketing it like it’s fucking healthy. It’s quite disgusting actually Same goes for energy drinks, vapes, aggressive casino games etc. all marketed deliberately to children

They say women tend to have messy cars whereas guys keep their cars tidy and then it’s the reverse for your digs. No idea lol Probs more down to what you value than any inherent quality about being a man or woman

@Dodo I have no idea. There is only one reality with an infinite number of perspectives What they might be trying to say then is to reframe reality through a different perspective. Your perspective ultimately contextualises reality but it doesn’t change the ultimate truth that reality is one. You are one with the universe

@Alexop Hmm that is a very biased view. I think men can be just as tidy as women lol I have known messy women when I lived in student halls It’s just a stereotype for the most part

@LastThursday my conscious shifts have mostly occurred through suffering. Just over two years ago now I experienced a pretty bad case of burnout and after the initial trigger and breakdown I struggled with sleep for the next 7 months. Horrible time But through that I moved house and radically changed my lifestyle. I started cycling, went deeper into psychedelic, stoped watching porn, started doing cold showers, regularly do high intensity exercises and socialise more. My god. So much has changed since then Before this time I was too complacent in my comfort zone. I would not socialise that much, played too many video games etc. nothing wrong with playing video games but it was displacing time that could have been spent doing more holistic things like cycling or going to yoga class It reminds me of this episode by Leo. A part of me clearly died. I had to let go of that way of life. Too comfortable. Too convenient but not satisfied

@Bobby_2021 You gotta plough through it sometimes. If it was easy everyone would be an entrepreneur I’ve reached a critical point with my business. We need investment or I cannot do this. The hardest thing for me is actually having to keep a job down as well as be founder of a start-up. Sometimes this is not feasible Lucky for Bezos who had half a million from his parents to start Amazon. Probs a million or more in today’s money. Or trumps small loan of a million dollars in the 70s