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@abrakamowse First point before some may say that "Jesus does not exist” and that he is a creation of the mind. True, but I think we should not go so meta to explain some things first. Many times in the forum we go to much non-dualism and go to extremes. To talk about the subject we have to move in the field of dualism. At least for a bit... I definitely agree with this ^. Too many people on here go far too meta which ultimately leads to the question why are you even on the forum it’s all imagination so what’s the point? Most people on here are not that enlightened (not even close) because simply very few human beings on the planet are. As Leo mentions you do not know you are god until you Know. Otherwise it is just second hand stuff. I personally do not KNOW but I have an intuitive sense that it is probably the case and so I am on that journey tbh I need to read your post fully. Jesus was connected with the divine. Essence of reality and many misinterpreted him because he was just so far ahead of their conscious development. Most had not a fucking clue what he was on about they just found something about his presence that they could not explain but it made them feel connected

@puporing Thanks. We do have connects to the right set of the people. Hopefully we can get some funding behind. Early days!

Has anyone noticed that with increased consciousness there is the potential to feel more deeply depressed in certain situations? Not that this is bad as I find it’s alert system that tells me when I am disconnected highlighting a need to change but sometimes the depression can be quite acute for short periods. A walk in nature helps On the flip side my confidence levels and general feeling of ease in life is pretty high. It’s almost like there is a not giving a fuck about things like I used to. There’s a sense I do not need though I may only want what life has to offer

Reflecting on it recently after preparing for a talk for college students I was invited to give it occurred to me what it has meant in my life to truly discover myself It took until I was around 28 to truly discover myself. Not as the identity I have been assigned at birth or developed as a story in my mind but as that place of spacious awareness. Connecting with that and realising that is actually who you are at the deepest level IS what it means to discover yourself Now just because I have discovered myself doesn’t mean that I understand myself. I’m not enlightened. I compare discovering yourself to discovering an artefact. Just because you have discovered it, it does not mean you understand it. That’s where I am. The journey continues to understand what the hell this artefact actually is. God I guess but I do not know that Interested to hear the age/moment that yoofs on here discovered themselves

When it comes to style it’s knowing what looks good rather than reading it in a book. It’s creative and decisive. Connecting with the spirit will help you identify

It’s just a feeling of being unsatisfied. What once satisfied me doesn’t now. I want more out of life interestingly today I have been speaking with a good friend of mine. He’s an artist and we have discussed starting a community interest company (CIC) - this is a UK social enterprise type thing no idea what US equivalent is. This CIC we want to impact the world and help alleviate the dysfunctions we both see. I thanked the universe for this. It has opened me to this possibility alongside my company. It’s this shit that connects and elevates. I’m highly ambitious I have to do things that are impactful and can change the world

@DieFree I would suggest reading an autobiography from someone that has a cool style about them who you admire I find anything from the 70s fucking cool. The fashion and interior design. The 70s was the decade for sophisticated hippies Also classic motor bikes are cool. Guitars are cool ladies love that 😉 I personally would say I have a good taste in style. It’s ego I know but I lean into it there as part of the human experience

@Philipp I’d say what’s the point. You’re on this planet to bear witness to the human experience. Spirituality for me facilitates the ability to be more at ease and confident in actualising on the human experience. What you can do as a human is endless really if you have the desire to achieve. Having said this I am 30 so I have a desire to live out the human life to the full. Maybe if I live to be 80 then I’d begin to sit and meditate more as I prepare to merge fully with the divine when I die

By grace we are truly blessed to have the forum back again

@Carl-Richard I disagree on that. Spirituality is independent of religion. Religion is like ideology and by that definition science could be a religion of sorts if you believe reality is simply a mechanical machine and only the scientific method can tell us what truth is. This is belief system ultimately As mentioned in first post, spirituality in politics for me would be the adoption of some of those policies such as trip centres and introducing spirituality into schools It is a loaded term which might be why you’re associating it with religion. Religion is irrelevant to what spirituality actually means ie consciousness, metaphysics etc. spirituality is fundamentally the exploration of consciousness and all its manifestations. That’s it, no religious or ideological predispositions are necessary or relevant though they are explored within the dimensions of consciousness - they are secondary, relative truths not the prior absolute truth that you are a conscious human being and your direct experience of reality is fundamental to existence itself

@StarStruck TikTok is the worst. Good job you deleted it

@Husseinisdoingfine I think there are certain activities that can numb your consciousness but it is all relative. With sex you can feel very connected with your partner as one so that doesn’t necessarily numb your consciousness unless you are doing this in a mechanical way with little connection and love. Scrolling on Tik Tok however might numb your consciousness but it is all relative Notice how you feel after these activities and judge accordingly. Do you feel good about it?

@jacknine119 good that you’re conscious of it. You’re not in control of your mind so if your mind has thoughts about impressing others then it is what it is. You’re not your mind and it’ll think whatever the hell it wants to From a higher self perspective if impressing others means you are diminishing your authentic self then that is something to be aware of and to recognise that now is a good time to reconnect with the spirit because you don’t want to live like that

@Carl-Richard I wouldn’t associate Islam with spirituality or any other religion for that matter - eastern wisdom is the closest but still unnecessary. Religion for the most part is ideology because members don’t accept the doctrines of other religions except for the very rare (more spiritual) few. Spirituality encompasses everything and sits outside of any narrow religious field of view where what’s written in this book is the word of god etc etc So with Islam or other religions that sit at the heart of political dialogue these are not examples of where spirituality is present. Quite the opposite. It’s just conservative spiral dynamics

@jakee I would argue that you can’t have proper development of society without spirituality being a greater part of people’s lives because at the moment that is what is completely missing from political dialogue

@Leo Gura I’ve never heard of this guy but really like his thinking. We need this kind of meta perspective on society and its development

@jakee Very interesting. Goals: Helping individuals find meaning and direction beyond material pursuits Encouraging a sense of awe, wonder, and connection to something larger than oneself Supporting the search for personal growth and transcendence Some kind of programmes for the above or policy initiatives to actualise these Sure you are right about being aware of the dangers of introducing spirituality into the political realm. It can get easily warped and misconstrued Ultimately if it is properly introduced and is true to the infinite nature of consciousness spirituality is not about telling people what to think, but about providing a space to explore consciousness and multi dimensional experience. Being open to each others interpretation and exploring that - all part of the infinite whole This is how spirituality should be deployed within society rather than dogma

@Ontology personally I’d go to uni. You have far more time to focus on any online presence whereas uni is the place to go when you are young so do it now especially if it’s free. No brainer

@aklacor727 All sounds good. I’d say scrolling on any digital platform is not ideal. This forum is me indulging in the theatre of it all but it’s more positive at least even this though I am mindful not to spend too much time on. Not been on this forum for that long and starting to see I am indulging maybe a tad too much

Happy birthday Leo my main guru man

I highly recommend anyone who wants to understand how the economy actually works and how it’s leading to chronic dysfunction in society e.g. growing poverty, wealth inequality etc, to watch Gary’s economics Gary was a successful trader on the London stock exchange and in his time he’s been able to understand how it all works and why we are seeing this seismic shift of assets from ordinary people to the wealthiest in society. Majority of his success as a trader was down to his theory that wealth inequality will continue to get worse as more of it is directed to the riches in society He does a great job of untangling economic concepts in straight forward terms. Really great stuff Here’s his recent upload. All of them are worth watching. He also has a book the Trading Game

@Bobby_2021 okay this makes sense: If you give cash to people without assets, they would give away that cash to people with assets. There has to be a mechanism for de-incentivising the accumulation of assets. In the UK we have a problem with second homes and just homes in general that are completely empty. The rich just hold onto them. There needs to be regulation and taxation into this But I believe that we can’t make this effective unless society becomes more connected with the spirit. This becomes a more profound and meaningful calling rather than wealth accumulation. Problem is that politicians are mostly deeply unspiritual people

@Karmadhi What is going on in Gaza is terrible. It’s genocide or at least ethnic cleansing. The west’s position to generally stand by Isreal no matter what really does put us to shame and goes in complete contrast to our civic values. Germany has their bollocks in a twist over the issue because of the holocaust so can’t be seen to criticise Isreal. Ultimately a lot of the support from the west for Isreal is because of this outdated moral obligation. Isreal can stand on its own two feet and should be judged like any other nation. It’s wrong that we give them special treatment Saying this neither the atrocities committed by Russia or Isreal invalidates one or the other. They are both equally barbaric. It’s just Ukraine has some means to defend itself. It’s not a competition

@Bobby_2021 I do not understand what other way you can actively have a impactful effect on growing wealth inequality without taxation A wealth tax is priority. There is also inheritance taxes and taxes on dividends Economic growth indicators don’t care where that growth goes to. In the last 10 years and more the vast bulk of any economic growth has gone to the wealthiest. This is chronically dysfunctional I’m not sure what economic theory/model you are eluding to? Trickle down? To be honest I do think your analysis is deeply flawed. Taxes are essential for redressing the balance. The only other metric come to think about it is greater rights for unions to proactively campaign for better wages for ordinary workers. Also legislation such as a universal basic income but then you need taxes to pay for that. That is where the gov get their money from aside from issuing bonds which drives up the debt

@Bobby_2021 I’m not sure what you’re trying to get at? The gov has only a few ways to raise capital and taxes is the most fiscally responsible way and also helps to level the playing field. Inequality at the levels we have has created obvious and chronic dysfunctions in society It is not good for either the personal or collective health of society that people can’t even afford to feed themselves or have decent living conditions