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I recently had my first 5meo trip, and I'm planning on starting using 5meo regularly as a self development / realization tool. I do have a couple of questions tho. 1. How often do you guys trip? i know that with traditional psychedelics like LSD and mushrooms, its advicable to wait 1-2months in between trips. However DMT and 5meo dmt seem way more innocent to me, i might very well be deluding myself here, which is why i ask; but the short acting trips, seem way more harmless than a 12 hour LSD trip. whats ur guys say here, how often is it advicable to trip on 5meo, while still keeping it responsible and safe? Like what if i wanted to push it to maybe once a week, but on a lower threshold dosis? im asking because in my experience, 1 hour after ingesting both NN dmt and 5meo dmt, i feel like im completely back to normal. whats ur guys say here, how often is it advicable to trip, while still keeping it responsible and safe? Like what if i wanted to push it to maybe once a week, but on a lower threshold dosis? 2. Is it managable to solo trip, if you're vaporizing through a pibe? I know from personal experience, that when smoking NN-DMT, managing to get the third hit of the pibe is near impossible solo, cus ur tripping so hard at that point. However with 5meo, my facilitator told me that a single big hit will do the job. Hence, is it doable to solo vaporize from a pibe, even on large doses? 3. Whats your dose scalings? (speaking synthetic vaporized 5-meo here), im seeing a bit varying information on google. Some say anything above 15mg is an extremely high dose, others say you need to go above 30 mg 4. how many times in a row is it actually safe to smoke 5meo? When i did it, i did 2 trips in a row, but how far can this actually be pushed? and does the dosing have anything to say in this matter?

HAHAHAH LOL. take a sip every time leo mentions fox news

loved the video. one of ur best ones yet imo.

title basically. im looking to conserve my 5meo the best way possible, since i plan on using it long term. I'm using an airtight glass container, inside which i have the 5meo in the plastic bag in which it arrived. I have further covered the plastic bag with some material to cover it from potential light. am i good just throwing this in the freezer? or any better ways or improvements?

@Schizophonia no need to put it in the freezer u say?

science has existed for thousands of years. the first humans creating fire was an act of science. No i dont want science to explain everything, im just refuting your former point, saying that science already does explain everything perfectly lol. what point i made was illogical?

what do u mean scientific model perfectly explains everything?wtf. science quite literally explains NOTHING. Even the stuff that it claims to explain, it does not at all fully explain. for example, science claims to know how water exists for example, its an arrangement of Ho2 molecules. However, why does this specific arrangement of Ho2 molecules generate water? you would need a model to explain all models and theories individually, and this goes on ad infinitum. its an infinite regress. science demonstrates causal relations, nothing more at all. it doesnt explain why the causal relations exist in the first place, or why it operates the way it does. it is is extremely superficial, and only explains stuff pragmatically, nothing at a deeper existential level at all. Thats just a demonstration of how science does not even know the things that it claims to know. Furthermore, science has nof ucking clue where existence came from, why we're here, what consciousness is. this is all explained perfectly through inquiry of the mind however. science is a joke when it comes to seriously investigating reality

exploring infinite imagination for all eternity :'))) thinking about the miracle of existence can literally bring me to tears

YES! this is basically excactly what my plan is haha looking forward to it so much. well its basically what ive been doing the past 2 years, but now im about to integrate 5meo regularly. gonna be nice.

@OBEler okay nice, thats my initial intuition as well. do you vaporize? i'm curois if it isnt difficult to vaporize small doses, such as 2-3mg. like do u even get any smoke from that

@RendHeaven all right man, thanks a lot! nice clarification

ty for the response. the thing is, i wanna play around with low doses at first to kinda get a feeling of my own sensitivity. so going with very low doses, say 3-5mg, im kinda uncertain how frequent my trips should be, since low doses FEEL quite innocent

im glad your trip went well! only wasnt it distracting that the facilitator talked to you continuesly during the trip? i just had my first experience as well, and i completely agree: i've been meditating intensly the last years, doing all sorts of spiritual practices, and to be quite honest, they seem like a complete joke right now. I've made decent progress through meditation, but i've only managed maybe 0,1% of what my 5MeO trip was, and i had a rather low dose. feeling quite discouraged to meditate currently. Only benefit is that right now it promotes reactivations of 5meo lol. further: Try some breathwork!!! i do 10-15 min of shamanic breathing (leo has a video on this), and it literally gives me probably 30-40% of the peak 5meo experience every time

So i finally had my first 5meo trip, after years of spiritual development and build up. Some background knowledge I've had spiritual practice for 3 years roughly , meditating for 1-2 hours daily, practicing mindfulness 24/7. I've had 12 LSD trips, 3 ayahuasca trips, and 2 dmt trips (and now one 5meo trip). I also do breathwork on a regular basis, eating healthy and excersicing nearly every day. The trip I will be skipping the setup and buildup, for the sake of relevans. I was guided by an experienced facilitator. We had agreed that at first, i'd be given an intro dose (15mg) in order for me to have a feel of what its like, before diving into the larger dose. Note that I am EXTREMELY sensitive to psychedelics. this was the toad, BUFO, not synthetic, which has very different dosage scalings. The first puff So I took one big puff, 15mg, held it in for roughly 15 seconds and exhaled. I was quickly surprised by the amount of visuals, since 5meo is known for its lack of visuals. But the visuals felt like a side effect, or a biproduct of sorts. they seemed to have little relevans to the overall experience of the trip. What i noticed was that the idea of past and future completely dissappeared, nearly instantly. it was like i was completely locked into the moment. I very quickly understood what leo was talking about when he talked of consciousness like a knob that could be increased infinitely. I dont know how to explain it, but taking that vape of 5-meo felt like i was injesting pure life into myself. Everything became crystal clear, like i had 8k vision, very similar to other psychedelics. At this point however, the psychedelic imagery / visuals had dissappeared, and what i was left with was an extremely clear picture of reality, and the overwhelming experience of "I AM". I laughed hard at the idea that i had every feared anything. because all fears, and ideas of good and bad were just that; ideas. nothing is inherintly good or bad. the idea of fear, death, just seemed so ridicolus to me. I felt like i merged completely with my "core". all my conditionings, my ideas, thoughts, traumas were removed, and what i was left with was just my own pure being, completely unaltered. I felt an extreme love, a love that is so remeniscant of my childhood, because thats what i fundamentally was before all my conditionings of society. a being of love, joy and curiosity. I also had the common psychedelic experience of "oneness" of course, but nothing much more intense than what i've experienced on LSD or ayahuasca. All in all, the experience lasted roughly 15-20 min. It was a rather mild experience, but still very intense comparatively to the dose i took. the facilitator said he hadnt seen anyone react this intensely at such a low dose. The second puff Due to my relatively intense reaction to the low dose of 15 mg, I decided that i would go for a second dose of no more than 25 mg, roughyl 20 min after the first puff. And this should prove to be a clever choice lol. I felt very confident, because the first puff wasnt scary AT ALL, it felt completely comfortable and safe. So i went in confidently, and was disproven rather quickly. The experience was COMPLETELY different from this first one, at first at least. I was emersed completely in visual imagery. I felt very scared, and like i had finally managed to break my mind. I had trouble letting go, especially because i couldnt feel myself breathing, or at least, it was like I had to actively remember to breathe, otherwise i would just suffocate. it was like my breathing had switched to manual gear lol, it was very weird. But after some time, i managed to surrender to the experience, and all the fear and dread dissappared completely in an instant. all of my ideas and expectations had gone completely away. This is where i had the epiphany. The love that was inside of me was not only inside of me. My very core. it was inside EVERYTHING else as well. it was a very personal experience, because it was not something foreign at all, it was ME, who i'd always been, but had been clouded by ideas, society, perceptions and misidentifications. It felt so fucking nostalgic and home like. I had finally come home to myself. and ME permiated everything else. I truly understood what is meant by Atman is Brahman. it was so fucking beautiful. At this point i had completely given in, and trusted the experience fully. it was like I connected COMPLETELY with everything else that was happening, like i was a piece in a puzzle that just fit in COMPLETELY with everything else, the sounds, the sensations of the bed, everything. everything was orcestrated so unbelieveably masterfully, litterally incomprehensible for the ordinary human mind. but its what we're surrounded by all the time, we just lack the perception to acknowledge it. at that point i felt like i got the cosmic joke, or a taste of enlightenment. and i will not try to put into words, because i cannot. but it felt like for a fraction of a second I not only became one with the Now, but i actually merged INTO the Now. like i had a peek inside of it. but i can tell you that i broke out into the biggest laughter i ever had. and i couldnt stop laughing. the trip was at its end, and i was so cleared about everything, so fucking ready to tackle life head on. i just wanted to go out and hug and love everyone so much. i truly felt like i was a child again, like there was no fucking doubt, that that state was my natural state back when i was a child, before all of my conditionings. Looking back So there it is. As mentioned, i only took rather small doses, but due to my sensitivity i still had relatively intense experiences. I had no direct God realizations, no direct insights into infinity or infinite intelligence, or anything of that sorts. But I truly feel like the experience was the perfect experience for me, right now at this moment. I could have gone for a higher dose, trying to get deeper, but after my first puff, I felt very clearly that today was not the day I was gonna realize God or infinity. But that day will come Im so filled with awe and joy for life, i cannot put it into words. life is too good to be true. team in love with consciousness <---- thank you for reading!

@Salvijus cant speak on that, only watched the one interview with him. his points were all extremely methodical and well structured, right until he dropped the "god gets pissed if u dont believe in him" which was abrupt as fuck

i agree totally, these are my experiences as well, and they seem completely undenieably true. it just seems waaaaaay too good to be true, but i THINK IT IS. oh my fucking god. it is true. the proof is right in front of me. exploring infinite imagination for all eternity........

I watched a decently long interview with this fellow, agreeing with a lot of stuff he was saying, right up until he said that God will punish you and send you to hell if you dont believe in him. lol.

yes i will be looking forward to this

Literally the most natural thing i've ever experienced. Nothing new was added at all, illusory filters were simply removed

@RightHand @Jowblob ty friends!

@Slizzer nope its tomorrow. safe to say im pretty excited / nervous xDD will definetely post a trip report afterwards.

I will be having my first 5meo trip in a few days. ive researched it for years, prepared myself for years. i feel like im ready, even through i know thats probably not possible haha. but i feel like its the right time. the last 3 years has been nonstop spiritual development day and night. THIS IS IT, god im nervous and excited lol. feel free to send me vibes and maybe tips for my preperation week? i plan on cutting all media and technological devices the days before, doing nothing but meditating probably.

i have my first 5meo trip in 2 days, and im having difficulty finding information on drug interactions - i use melatonin and magnesiumoxid daily, am i good using these the night before the trip?

i think i get your point, i like it. i'll be having my first 5meo trip in 2 days, hopefully i will get some of the stuff you're talking about at a deeper level. thanks for the replies

i dont get how consciousness isnt constant then