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@Leo Gura You know that when you get old we gonna eat you right???😈😈 All of your experiences will be ours!!!😈 I want the Alien Awakening part

That's a cool perspective. There's definetely a lot of wisdom in religion, we just need to sort the wheat from the chaff.

On point, this is wisdom.

Just because something sells, doesnt mean its good or desirable. Taylor Swift music sells, doesnt mean its good. Selling is a normie criteria for things. Its like you became a marketer for a second lmao.

This has been abundantly clear to me for years. I'm just reminding myself from a different angle: He even admits it himself that he is not ready to let go of his limited identity, that he likes using his mind, that "understanding" is his game. Yet it's couched in "awakening" language. I've explained why that is. I read the thread and from my personal experience I have to agree. Traditional methods like meditation, yoga and so on helps you grow and integrate, psychedelics gives you glimpses but that doesnt mean its automatic growth nor ultimate realization and liberation. Also, I never really liked Leo and others trashing on Buddhism(Therevada, Mahayana, Zen, Vajrayana) as if its a lower thing. Buddha and his sutras gives wisdom, insights and much more. Including higher realities, spiritual beings(aliens), spheres of consciousness etc. I have a feeling people havent read and contemplated Buddhism enough. Its quite profound and deep, Buddha was a leap in consciousness and a great step in human evolution. And Btw I am not a Buddhist lmao, the value of it its just too obvious and deep to be trashed at like its trashed here. This video is on point at what we are talking here. Psychedelics are powerful but they are momentary and they dont seems to liberate people. They give glimpses and might even change your baseline for the better, but they might not be the ultimate tool like people in this forum tend to believe.

Yeah, I think this is huge, maybe leo is not seeking liberation. Maybe he wants to keep playing in maya in the advanced realms so to speak. Not judging per se, to each their own and I am not claiming to know more than him, just thinking about this lol. Maybe awakening doesnt even truly mean liberation, those might be entirely different axis.

This makes sense. Like for example, do you think Alien awakening is just more maya? But Leo sort of claims is more profound than for example insight into sunyata, or standard non-duality. Do you think this is an ego-trip? It could be Leo is trying to differentiate himself just to earn his bread in the future so he makes bold claims like this, but I don't know, I remain open lol.

If I can expand on this point: Psychedelic use makes you take insights into Maya really seriously because they seem very salient and profound, because that is what psychedelics does. That is why I think Leo uses the word "awakening" for literally everything under the sun, and why he dismisses any pushback on such insights as "you just don't understand". The profundity makes it seem so special and unique that when somebody disagrees, it just cannot be the case that it's merely a disagreement but a profound lack in experience. But of course, the issue is when the insight is into Maya, that is exactly where disagreement can be had, and any clinging to it is deception and untruth. This is the unfortunate downside of psychedelics in that it makes you more prone to not just deception but profound narcissism, taking your own limited experience so seriously and dismissing any pushback on it as not worth taking seriously. "My view is so profound, that even if it's personal and limited, it's too serious to be even challenged". "You just haven't had that awakening yet". And the term "awakening" reinforces the deception because it sounds so final and "official", as if it's a stamp of truth. When in reality, it's purely untruth. This is exactly where Leo parts ways from standard non-duality (or rather completely inverts the concept). It's when you treat Maya like it's truth, when it's really not. Either you see this instantly, or you're stuck in the deception. @Carl-Richard I liked what you wrote here. I am curious, do you think Leo is very self-deceived with his psychedelic awakenings? Just a mild curiosity from me lol

Chop wood, carry water. It might give a good feeling for some time, but surely it is not a theory of everything because reality is a flux, it can't have a static final thing such as a theory of everything. Besides, if you havent understood what Death is, this theory is not so significant as it seems. Because it will be destroyed with you in Death.

Sitting on chairs

You`ve been fucking your own pussy as GOD, might as well...

That`s the ultimate siddhi right there, everyone who is not doing that is a fraud

Cant be intimate with your food if you are using utensils. Its like you are using condom. Real man eat with their bare hands

Yes. Especially western people, they have weak hip muscles and mobility. That's a result on sitting on chairs your whole life and losing contact with the ground. Chair is conformity of the west and it is worse for your overall health.

If you cant sit cross-legged for a lot of time you are physically weak. In that case a chair might be good for you.

I can say that for myself its because where I live most psychs are illegal so I dont want to risk it; the only option is to travel to a place where the laws are more malleable with such substances or take the risk . And there's definetely people out there interested in this in the same situation that I am. Yes, there are a lot of people here and in the world that are literally sex machines or with a high libido. You cannot fathom because that is literally non-existent in your experience. Sex and women is wired in most men, so consider yourself winning the lottery for not having even a drop of that in your system and stumbuling upon psychdelics & spirituality. You have a pretty strong combo going on for you lmao. Appreciate the privilege of your situation. Just like you commented in another thread that your baseline emotions and love aspect is bottom of the barrel or very little, there are people in the world who does not care or cant care about spirituality or philosophy no matter how hard they tried. So in the end is just about genetics, character configuration, karma, biases, whatever you want to call it. Most people who keep chasing sex and women are not reflecting on their behaviours and are not doing spiritual work at the same time. In short, they are not reflecting on their desires and their attachements for such things and specially they are completely frivolous with the question of what is Death. I myself am and still want to explore sex and women, but this is not an end in itself, it is just a step in my development, I am pretty sure I will get bored of it sooner or later. Just like Buddha got bored and droped his life of abundance of women, fine cloths, good food, status and so on to find out if theres anything more than desiring and dying at the end.

@Natasha Tori Maru I think theres some truth to what he is saying. Like for example an INTP is Fi blind and Fe inferior. The average INTP when presented with information is first going to think it over because Ti is his dominant function. That's not to say he cant feel or have internal subjective values and emotions, but that is not his priorities according to the model. So in a sense, one could make the case that an INTP cares less about his and others feelings and emotions than for example an INFP or an ISFP. Calling somebody a feeler or a thinker has meaning, in that the person prioritize either feeling or thinking more, and therefore the label creation. Just my two cents

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Have to agree with @Hojo on this. If you want more it`s not fulfilling, nothing in life seems to be, because the ego is always hungry and greedy. But that doesnt mean that need for sex isnt there, it is there, but dont kid yourself that it will ever fulfill you.

You are too identified with your ego, thats why you judge things(I am too, I am not completely aware of everthing at all times). But I think its really that simple, you are judging things and fighting maya. Maya wont go away, but your whole context and point of view in it might change drastically. Think like being lucid in a dream, the dream continues but everything loses weight because you have seen through it. I am not saying I am lucid yet, but I a working on it and everyday the old teachings of the east seems more and more true. Continue to work on spirituality and eventually drama will lose its weight, seems simple and boring but it is the way, ego is the source of all problems and questions.

@theleelajoker The thing is, I don't think drama really exist. You are a mind interpreting certain phenomena as "drama". But all that is just phenomena in consciousness happening. If you been practicing meditation, you probably have encountered the Ox in some way. You need to watch your self, or your consciouness intepreting stuff and stay more in it purest form. In that form theres no drama, there's just watching. Mind is very subtle to start judging stuff as drama, bs or something like that. You need to catch THAT moment and see that it is you that is doing that. Keep watching youself and abide in awareness only, the drama will go away even with eyes open.

Did Buddha had gaps in his understanding of reality? If so, which ones do you think are the most poignant?

Born in november type shiii A result of lust and human desire

So you think Buddha is bogus on this? Or do you mean the probability of a modern human transcending suffering is basically impossible?