Eskilon

This Sufi mystic might be one of the craziest one's out there. The guy was so integrous and authentic in his realization that he didn't care for his well-being or safety. He was willing to get dismembered, torn apart and chopped to pieces if that meant he truly being himself and living his truth. Now, do you have that in you? He wasn't playing games, no cunningness, calculation or survival. He was no more, only his realization remained. He reached a point where his was ecstatic 24/7, like far far gone. Can you maintain your awakening if I cut your arm off? Will you scream in agony or will your laugh in ecstasy because you know you are not that and you are cutting yourself? Are you so intoxicated with reality that you will laugh even if I cut your hands and feet? Will you go completly against the society and political order for God's sake, even knowing fully that you will get killed and tortured? How deep is your devotion to Reality? Well, I think this Sufi mystic show that there are insane levels of consciousness possible in our baseline state that virtually nobody possess.

It makes sense if you are on the path learning or you achieved and came back to society, because what else is there to do?

Hmm, I think it does have relationship with enlightenment. Because enlightenment, as far as I understand is a transcendence of your psychology, your agenda and wants. If you can fully merge yourself with a feeling and not react negatively that means that you have a least a higher than average consciousness or you are enlightened lol.

I used Leela to indicate a no give a fuck attitude because of transcendence. He was a persian sufi, yes.

The transcendence of pain and biology. If it was true he was truly in leela state 24/7, that's a remarkable feat. Nobody on this forum achieved this sort of thing to my knowledge.

Many? I think not lmao Yes, but very very few monks are able to accomplish that.

@Natasha Tori Maru Great video, but... Can I trust my senses that Natasha exists?😳

It's good to be skeptical. But if you are calling it a myth, might as well start doubting history itself and even skepticism

A true man. This is strength with a capital S.

Interesting, and yeah, while I haven't reached this kinds os state myself, I keep an open mind about it. Besides, what else can one possible want but those realizations and states? Lol

Nice perspective, thanks for sharing, will check!

Usually when I meditate I get some creative or useful insights that are not necessarily spiritual in nature. For example songs, some problem you've been working in your life, understanding of a concept. What do you guys do? Do you ignore them and continue to meditate as normal, do you write those insights? Granted, some of these insights get in your mind and if you don't take note of them they are gone forever(like a insightful dream you will never remember) . This is part of the let go proccess right? -- even if good ideas come to you you let them go away.

It's all about the intention, true.

@Leo Gura You're just jealous that you didn't reach infinite invincibility awakening like all-Hallaj did

His story is definetly beyond this world, completely intoxicated with God. The true Lover

Will do.

One explanation is that science is survival, and has it's roots in evolution and survival of the tribe. So in those contexts, it was shown again and again that what one person said could be heavily wrong and biased, and what the group or a bunch of people said for the most part handled better survival chances and security, even if it wasn't necessarily true. Strength in numbers sort of thing, the social domain is full of it, and science is a part of that. Though if you are on this forum you can probably guess that what the tribe or the collective says is not always true, so it's a nuanced point. All revolutions in science and thinking usually came from a single person who the majority considered crazy or deluded. Can't really escape bias and firt-person experience so science is very stupid and arrogant to discard those whithout investigation and open-mindedness. Science needs both epistemic rigor and open-mindedness -- fire and water

Bruh, what

Yeah, he was really authentic. Really beautiful when someone achieves that and has the balls lol.

Damn, interesting didn`t heard about his experience before. Actually, heard very little about him. I don`t follow much western masters, nothing against them or anything though.

From my current understanding, there's no my mind or other minds, all of that is just thinking. Before thinking, there is nobody home. Reality is happening. An unfolding of a process.

Well said. Need to pin this so that no other solipsism thread gets created

Lmao I laughed at this. But it might actually be true, Leo's past might be full of devilry and uncousnciousness. Have his roots deep in hell sort of thing

But then the solipisist can say something like: "But that distinction itself is just an arbitrary thing you made to make sense of reality, there's no such thing as relative and absolute, its all absolute. My d*ck is the only thing that exists". How would you reply?

Fair enough