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What Leo has to do with anything ? Aren't you a sovereign mind? Meditation has to be done everywhere for you to be really transformed, like the zen masters says. Haha, nice try, but since I am GOD here`s one for you: Public class NiceTryCarl{ public boolean truth = true; public boolean carlExists = true; public static boolean goingMetaOnCarlForever(){ return truth; } public static void main(String[] args) { while(carlExist){ System.out.println("Let it go Carl"); goingMetaOnCarlForever(); } } }

Yes. And to me, that`s what is so beautiful about it. Death is the only certainty you have in your life. Everything else is open to debate and questions, but not Death. Death WILL happen no matter what you are or what you have done it. It`s the most powerful force there is. The most selfless too because you are guaranteed to experience it In a way Buddha was a Death fetishist. He only cared to know what Death is, everything else was meaningless to him. This is the most optimal attitude to spirituality, when you see the world as meaningless, you will start to befriend Death -- and know its ways.

Only if it is not a breakthrough psychedelic. Some psychedelics will go only to the chimp(ego) level and purify and upgrade that -- but it will not blast you straight into nothing and force you to confront Death -- you have no say in the matter. Good luck ignoring that invitation. If that's the case, then the meditation session wasn't that deep. You need to come out of meditation in a dissasociated state, where you are here and at the same time you are not. In that state focus is pretty easy, because you're not attached to anything in particular -- you attention has a diffusive quality to it, you pay attention to everything and nothing at the same time. No, deconsctruction itself is a mental game, an illusion -- but a necessary and useful one. Deconstruction is not the final destination and can't be Truth. Reality is not designed like that, no part can have more importance than any other part, no monopoly, and no hierarchy -- that's what it means by a selfless design. If that's the case, then, deconsctruction is not the be all end all, and you need to go meta and let go of that too.

Genetics, stage in life, method, values and so on. You will not go deep in meditation if you are not ready to die -- period. If you have a bunch of worldly desires meditation will not have the intended results. You much better doing a more violent method -- psychedelics. But that too is dangerous so yeah lol. Well, if you have a very fat and gross ego, then sure you need to deconstruct all that. But not while you are in meditation itself. You are not sitting there saying to yourself "I am not this body, I am not this mind" that helps with nothing. You might engage with this sort of thing after meditation. -------------- You also need to deconstruct deconstruction itself. Deconstruction is a trap too if you want to reach pure consciousness and know what Death is. You want pure being and that requires that you be absolutely clean and a virgin state. You need to BE.

This is BS. If one is genuinely a spiritual person, why should he play the monkey games of survival? If he wants truth that badly playing survival with this much engagement is detrimental.

Fair enough. Whenever you are ready it, we got an eternity for it

For sure. Just saying that because there's a strong emphasis on psychedelics on this forum. It is easy to fool oneself thinking that pyschedelics are enough and you don't need to do the "natural" method -- you need both.

Which chemical was your breakthrough? Or was it natural?

What are you waitin for?? Don't be scared, just happy little deaths

You will want a girlfriend badly, until you start experiencing god daily and the inner pleasure starts increasing. Then a girlfriend seems like a childish thing. Then only question is, when will that moment hit the individual? 1 year from now？10 years? 10 lives from now？It`s just a matter of time.

Broken people should dip their toes in spirituality, but I wouldn't say get into it. There's a big difference. And depends on the meaning of "spirituality" in the first place. Many of the spiritual practices have huge benefits to the physiological and the psychological domain. Shouldn't broken people practice that? Shouldn`t broken people practice meditation, yoga and even go to an Ayahyuasca ceremony? I have met many and known many "broken people" who have greatly improved their lives with a milder version of spirituality. But if we are talking about how spirituality is defined on this forum and pared with philosophical, psychedelics and epistemic work, then definitely that wouldn`t work that much and they will get scared and quit. Hardcore spirituality is not for 99% of mankind. Not even for most forum users here -- who by they way love to talk that they are spiritual, but don`t even meditate daily and aren`t thinking nor willing to do a meditation retreat.

Not really, they can stomach intellectually. Not in actuality. But then, what can't you stomach intellectually? You have no skin in the game.

Such question are not questions you should ask others... If you know what I mean Figure out yourself if it is different or not. Spirituality is a single-player game.

There's no play without differences, but also, there's no play with overwhelming differences. It would be no fun to watch a human vs a Gorilla, the fight would be over in seconds. Therefore, competition is based on the balances between differences -- which is NOT to say there are two identical clones fighthing each other. It needs to be somewhat balanced, but still different.

If spiritual people are master of self-deception, normies(the average joe down the street, scientist, philosopher, academic, CEO, etc) are Gods of self-deception. They have zero idea what's up, no clue what is in front of their nose, the structure of anything. At least the spiritual people have gone meta on this world and understands, however little, the subtlest aspects of existence -- which is not to say there isnt deception there, every meta level has. Subjectivity never ends. Everything is the subject -- everything is self. What your essay has described is the logic that runs through the gross self. There are an infinite number of self levels, from grossest to subtlest. And of course, there is the "final" level, which is the level that you were before you were born. Don't assume that your logic applies to subtlest selves, because it doesn't hold water there.

It is not. Simple? Sure, but not childish. I think you and the philosophers that you are citing are overcomplicating a simple but profound phenomenon. The keyword here is simple, not easy or shallow. Almost no one has transcended desire. You do know what you desire, what? This is like saying you don't know what you like and you don't like -- which by the way both are desires and attachments. Sure, he had to read, study, practice and all that, he had desires and longing for awakening. But even this is not so accurate because there are thousands of teachings that say that even the desire for awakening is an impediment for you to reach it -- you will only reach it once you desire nothing and just be. Yeah, can't agree with this. There are many accounts of people who awakened or maybe not even that -- let's say they have accessed some deep Jhana of reality but not full awakening. Even those say that desire ends, and they act in the world spontaneously -- they just flow with consciousness of the moment. And I have verified this(Though I'm not in that state all the time -- only have glimpses of it). There's no clinging and no chasing, whether you believe that or not is up to you.

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1l94s3b/yumbo_sphere_15_hours_drive_from_buga_valle/ What do you guys think?

TCG( The Conflation Gaslighter)🤡 Definition: Somebody who will say that youre conflating things when you tell deep truths they don't yet comprehend. Example: Person A : "Holy shit dude! I just had an insight that the Absolute is the relative, and the relative is the absolute🤯." Person B : "No dude, you're conflating things! This is a category error! The absolute is absolute, and the relative is the relative, they can't be the same thing! Use rigor in your contemplation. Where's the proof?! You are being too loosey-goosey!"

TOR(The Outwards Rat) 🐀 Definition: Someone who just does stuff, socialize and endlessly distract himself/herself. Such a person never bothers to sit down, close their eyes and introspect on Metaphysics & Ontology -- Missing God entirely. Example : A classic extrovert who gets tangled up in attention from others, family and survival affairs.

Congrats, you are free from so much human bullshit that way. Tbh this is kind of the endgame, if you have burned the female companion karma, that will set you free in so many ways.

Yes music is like this for me also, it can color your experience -- for better or worse lol.

I'm just curious to know your perspectives, to see if it is similar or different from mine. Do you trip with music or in complete silence? Also, what are the differences and challenges in your experience using each one?

Desire is attachment, a Bodhisattava is not attached to anything -- he just is. If he dies the next second in the most horrible way possible he isn`t less blissed than if he had continued his life. Non-desire = absolute acceptance; Desire = resistance/clinging to some condition.

I see. This is true, one will become that if he goes into spirituality, but I dont see that as the final "goal". I see it as a consequence of the path. For me, spirituality is about knowing what Death is, and who You are. And to know this things you should use whatever method fits you. Everything else after that is a bonus, which generally includes what you mention here. Yes, there are a lot of unserious people on this forum. But hey, I also think this forum is one of the most cool places on the internet -- you can't have everything lol.

It`s all structure and at the same time it isn`t. Don`t forget your strange-loops No. Spirituality will permanently change your state. Don`t assume that it will pass, like a high from weed for example. Spirituality is meant to radically recontextualize your present experience and your state of consciousness. I think your point here is more against pyschedelics, where you change your state and know what`s behing the scenes, and then come back down. But this coming back down is never the same person you were before -- this is a crucial point. Moreover, you should combine pyschedelics with meditation so you can gradually change your state to higher levels and by and by leave psychedelics.