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I disagree. @gettoefl Monastic life is much better. Monastic life is the one of the real ways to go intense on whatever you value. You can't solve a problem from the same level of mind that created it.

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@Ninja_pig I get it, Engineering is actually fun, I do like it. I was just verifying if it was a purely money based decision. Glad you have an affinity for it. About Narmada Parikrama. Tell me what you think about it. I think you'll find more info from people who actually do it. Checkout RaghuRaahi's instagram page. P.S - this is that time of the year, to go parikrama, we're a bit late.

Hey, we're the same age. I've had multiple awakenings, never touched a substance, doesn't follow any guru. If you haven't guessed, I'm from India, lucky in that regard. But doesn't matter where you're from, it's still a lot of work. I've known Leo when I was 16, and have found his content absurd/low consciousness at that point. But I've seen him grow over the years. I've only recently started spending time with all the important topics like Spiral Dynamics, like a year or two ago. I still find a lot of his content absurd. But hey, I can understand why it would be so. No judgement. It's just biases of where he lives in, societal karma. Just saying, you probably have the same blindspot and it's alright, I'll help out there a bit. What do I do? I'm basically a dropout, my goal at 19 was to pursue everything I have an affinity for, find out what works best for me. Not gonna spoil further. In short, my life unfolds in ways I've never planned and the way it unfolds is always something I could have never planned for. My point being, if you're living the high life, you can't predict what you'll become in the next 5 years, the journey is insanely rewarding. So it's absurd to think you'll postpone something till you're 40. I'm gonna answer your question based on everything you said. I can see your appeal for monkhood. Here's how I see it, if green doesn't happen you wanna go back to the stability of our Orange society. Not a bad "plan". But I have a feeling the Green won't happen well. Because you still wanna pursue Orange. And have strong roots in there. I'm pretty sure the people you know doesn't want you to be a monk, as much as you want it. Should you exhaust orange more or move on to grow further? The answer is totally up to you. If you have the means, take more time and try out everything. And I can already see you don't like the prospect of a normal job, and that's something commendable. But I'm lost here since you said you'd go into engineering. Again, all or nothing, huh? ---- Thoughts on monkhood. Don't be a monk in an organisation. It's just a monk businesses and learning Buddhism, beleive me you'll be disappointed fast. Be an independent monk, yeah, the real thing. Go full on, there's many who practice "Narmada Parikrama" and similar stuff. This only lasts a few months, it's about walking, long distance as a monk and being one with the nature, culture. You mostly stay in stranger's houses, food is mostly at the grace of strangers. And you should see the faces of these monks. Meditation can't hold a candle to this. This journey often transforms their whole life and life takes on an entirely different direction.

@Leo Gura He's a natural man, he just made sure to stay true to his values. I love how he doesn't conform to anything at all, given his time. And it's no accident most Enlightened people is in India. The land is so rich. And the rest of the world and even Indians aren't aware of it. It's hilarious.

I didn't like "reading" Mastery. I liked the core concepts and it can be learnt from less than 5 pages. Don't expect books to make you satisfied or knowledgeable. Just use the bits of wisdom as effectively to gain real knowledge, first hand experience. Don't cling to second hand knowledge. Do your thing.

You don't see how you're being used by the money, not the other way around. Do you see the karmic baggage that comes with it? Every dollar has the energy of a person behind it. The more people's imprint you take on, the more of a "politician" you become. Because now you're obliged to help those who actually worked to make the billion(the actual hands who worked and didn't get the money). The moment you take on the billion, you become a busy bird, doing this doing that, no time to do your own stuff. In a monetary system, you cannot channel it to create infinite value. You simply can't. There's too much overhead cost and a billion dollars is nothing to even things out. By the time, we get billions worth of value for free, we won't have a monetary system. And that's something I look forward to. But there are ways to make use of the billion. Donate it to Open Source development entirely/part by part. Both for softwares, infrastructure, and anything which is of higher value. Now it's about giving back to the world in a better way. But you're still doing your own thing, because you gave it all away already. You become free of it the moment you create the intention to give it away. Whether or not you wanna be involved in the process of giving it to the world depends on the individual. Depends on their nature. Just focus on creating your own value. And decide if you're doing it to accumulate wealth or to give wealth to the world. Because if you give to the world enough, the world will take care of you. No, wrong, you are taking care of yourself. See how beautiful this is. Remember, your life purpose was created in light of scarcity induced by the system, when there's no scarcity for you, there's no purpose either. And one more thing, you can't force a generation of people to just develop. Each and everyone have to put in the work to develop themselves (and not waste their potential by making money, because let's face it, majority can't follow their passion). And that's not feasible in a monetary society. Because of accumulation by the few and how the majority have to do useless circus just to get the money for basic stuff. That's absurd.

@integral it's swag to reject a billion dollars.

Everyone goes through this phase, man. What can they do? They don't know any better, all they have is the conformity of others doing the same thing around them. Your reality needs to be stronger than theirs. My advice: immerse yourself in building yourself so that they can't coerce you anymore into doing things. Nobody complains a soldier didn't pray at the time because he was fighting in a war and killing his supposed enemies. Why should anyone coerce you at all? The battle is between whose truth is more integrous. And if you're struggling, use it as a catalyst for your growth. Force yourself to grow out of that old reality, in every way.

Everyone having the same impact/same intensity of life experience, these are things you realise if you put in the work. This is why, you are "the same" as anyone else. There's a oneness, a sort of equality and it's absolute. No matter how stark a difference may be, it's pointless. Also, you'll be equal to everyone no matter how much you change/grow. This is where compassion arises from. Spirituality is not about going into a cave to isolate yourself, as people often mistake. If a monk is staying in a cave after realising this, it's precisely because he knows "his" impact clearly. And that impact is the exact same as any other person. No one human is one up than another. Deviation from these inadvertently harms others in the process. Just think about this in terms of your life cycle. Do you personally care about what happens a thousand years later? Not unless your sense of time is non linear, or you've experienced certain things. Same goes with impact, you've no clue what happens after you're dead, or what is the karmic imprint of your current actions(what's making your current actions possible). People often act with no regard for future generations and other humans in the present, because unconsciously they don't care if the world ends after they're dead. World stagnating with low conscious values and agendas is none of their concern if they get to accumulate more "from" others. And this sure isn't a way to measure impact. And I'd gladly call this a failure. 😂 P.S - Whether or not you can afford this truth is an entirely different story. Realising these truths doesn't help you get filthy rich in the world. That becomes a lot harder if you haven't already built up your career from the same higher values. Yeah basically, you deliberately do more, give more to the world, and get less because the world is skewed. This is why most people stay Orange primarily. They can't afford the extra work.

The pain you feel right now is the price you're paying, for all the highs you've "borrowed" from your future. I'm not being judgemental here. You're off balance#, karma-wise. You have to maintain a state you are tolerable with, else the balance will keep shifting towards death. A point where, dying seems more peaceful than suffering. Death is balancing things, so is your suffering, they're not different. Suffer more deliberately, and use that window to do productive things. Suffer in every way imaginable. Abandon all the highs. No substance, no junk foods. And at one point, you'll have reached a state you're tolerable with, then don't piss that away again by taking substances. Again, these are not hard rules, this is just how the karmic scale works. You have to pay your highs back, in highs(and sometimes it's heightened suffering and that's okay) #the balance is never off, that's the whole point. Everything is balanced all the time. You just can't handle the current balance.

@LordFall you got me all wrong buddy. I was saying money is a very inefficient way to quantify. We're better off avoiding money all together from the equation. And globalisation is a joke, it's against the very root of money. It won't happen unless money disappears. And I can't simplify my points any further. I have butchered it enough already to explain it to you, in the second post. On the first, I was deliberate on not spoiling it.

Is spiral dynamics biased? Yes, it's biased to where it's created from, and it's created by observing humans. So yeah, it wouldn't necessarily apply to an alien civilization as much as it applies to a human. Also you're taking the evolution aspect too literally. Evolution is individual, remove culture out of the equation for now. Just because a mob of stupids come up with something they think is good, doesn't mean it's actually good. It means it's good for them, at the moment. And that's no basis for evaluating evolution. Are you really trying to evaluate evolution of all things based on groupthink? That's a shame. There's also a tiny quirk, this might perhaps help you understand spiral dynamics better. A stage red person who have honed in on stage red will be more evolved than a person of beginning stage yellow or even torqoise. Honing in on any one stage will unlock various perks. Also is the point the map becomes obselete to some degree. Mind you, I'm still talking about the individual. He's better off being a stage red and dying as stage red. But when it comes to civilizations, that's not how we should approach things. It will evolve, and it should.

Yep. Just see it like working out your body. You're not supposed to break your bones by working out, unless you're training for muai Thai, or doing hardening, where you break your bones little by little everyday. And hey, you're not gonna get traumatized by working on your life purpose.

@Bobby_2021 Thanks for the explanation. I would redefine it as, picking up insane challenges and staying grounded no matter what. In layman's terms, exercising your ability to regulate emotions consciously. Here's a side note, with some work on yourself, you can unlock an ability, to regulate any emotion/pain. It works to some extend for physical pain caused from cuts(not so much on muscle cramps😂, I've tried it). But this is really powerful once you get the hang of it. It's basically having low-level control on the chemicals in your brain. I have a confession. There's some traps in this exercise I've fell into. First one is disregarding all emotions as useless/fleeting. This does distance you from the emotion itself. But this also makes you unable to work on anything at all. Because "every emotion is pointless". This way, whenever I encounter an emotionally challenging situation, I'd be like "ah, there's no point in enduring this, I know I can do it, but why would I", this is actually fine in early stages, and I'd argue absolutely needed, to identify the emotions you wanna invest in. Another trap is, using it when not in a challenging situation, much like monkey pressing a button to get his treat. And doing this will desensitise you to the whole thing. And further amplifies the first trap. Or rather, this is nuanced, you need to exercise this ability a lot in challenging situations to actually do this properly. And at some point you have realise(like right now), even if you have unlocked the ability to regulate any emotion, you can't do it for long periods of time with exercising it. And without that mind construct, naturally you'll go into power saving mode, and you'll never make use of the ability unless forced by the external situation. And the final, most important trap. Don't take what I said seriously. These are not hard rules you should try and stick to. Just a roadmap, so be sure to enjoy the ability however you want. But here we are talking about exercising emotions. So don't get it mixed up.